GVS2 or GSI1

[risingsun]

I have two stones I am considering. Both will cost me the same amount with the trade in of my ACA.

Stone#1
WF ACA AGS 0
1.545 GVS2
Depth% 61.3
Table % 56.2
CA 34.5
PA 40.8
LG% 78

HCA 1.2 TIC x,x,x,vg

Stone #2
HOF AGS 0
1.624 GSI1<---eye clean, inclusions difficult to see with loupe
D% 61.7
T% 56.2
CA 34.8
PA 40.7
LG% 77

HCA 1.1 TIC 1.1 x,x,x,vg

The ACA plot is extremely clear. The HOF plot has more inclusions. I have mind clean issues. I also would love to have the extra size. Since price is not the deciding factor, what do you think?

 

[Lorelei]

Marian, do you have the diameters for both diamonds please? How exciting!!

 

[stone-cold11]

Both are equally good by the numbers. A draw for me unless you can provide the ASET, IS pics of both stones.

Else, I would suggest go with stone 1 as you have mind clean issue, it will continue to bug you.

 

[risingsun]

Date: 10/2/2008 9:29:14 AM
Author: Lorelei
Marian, do you have the diameters for both diamonds please? How exciting!!

Thanks, Lorelei! I must be

for upgrading in this economy!!

Stone #1: 7.44-7.47x4.57
Stone #2: 7.51-7.55x4.65

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/2/2008 9:35:17 AM
Author: risingsun

Date: 10/2/2008 9:29:14 AM
Author: Lorelei
Marian, do you have the diameters for both diamonds please? How exciting!!

Thanks, Lorelei! I must be

for upgrading in this economy!!

Stone #1: 7.44-7.47x4.57
Stone #2: 7.51-7.55x4.65

LOL!! You are helping the economy!!

They are both beautifully cut as I know you would find with your knowledge, so it is a bit of a dilemma! How much do you think the SI would bug you, do you think it might not be an issue to get that bit of extra weight, or do you think it might prey on your mind? I know sometimes it can be a big '' mindleap'' from SI to VS....

 

[risingsun]

^^^I think I may need to bring in both stones and see them. Thank you for validating my thoughts on the cut on both stones. They both look great to me. If the HOF is truly eye clean and the inclusions are difficult to see through the loupe, I might be inclined to go with it. You are right. It is a big leap for me. So many PSers make this leap without having anxiety! I'm arranging to have the stones brought in and I will let you know what happens

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/2/2008 9:47:14 AM
Author: risingsun
^^^I think I may need to bring in both stones and see them. Thank you for validating my thoughts on the cut on both stones. They both look great to me. If the HOF is truly eye clean and the inclusions are difficult to see through the loupe, I would be inclined to go with it. I'm arranging to have the stones brought in and I will let you know what happens

You are most welcome! The cuts are top notch on both so you can't go wrong, I will eagerly await the outcome!!

 

[canuk-gal]

Date: 10/2/2008 9:47:14 AM
Author: risingsun
^^^I think I may need to bring in both stones and see them. Thank you for validating my thoughts on the cut on both stones. They both look great to me. If the HOF is truly eye clean and the inclusions are difficult to see through the loupe, I would be inclined to go with it. I''m arranging to have the stones brought in and I will let you know what happens

HI:

Nice choices. I''d love to hear your IRL assessment of both--and deciding factors. (they should keep the stats hidden to see if you can observe the difference!

)

cheers--Sharon

 

[risingsun]

Date: 10/2/2008 9:51:53 AM
Author: canuk-gal

Date: 10/2/2008 9:47:14 AM
Author: risingsun
^^^I think I may need to bring in both stones and see them. Thank you for validating my thoughts on the cut on both stones. They both look great to me. If the HOF is truly eye clean and the inclusions are difficult to see through the loupe, I would be inclined to go with it. I''m arranging to have the stones brought in and I will let you know what happens

HI:

Nice choices. I''d love to hear your IRL assessment of both--and deciding factors. (they should keep the stats hidden to see if you can observe the difference!

)

cheers--Sharon

Hi Sharon~I''ve read on PS over and over not to let the plot throw you off a stone. I will try to look at the stones without a loupe or stats and see what I think. Of course, I''ll have them under the microscope before you know it! I will let you know how the RL comparison turns out.

 

[Snarleyow]

Date: 10/2/2008 9:47:14 AM
Author: risingsun
^^^I think I may need to bring in both stones and see them. Thank you for validating my thoughts on the cut on both stones. They both look great to me. If the HOF is truly eye clean and the inclusions are difficult to see through the loupe, I might be inclined to go with it. You are right. It is a big leap for me. So many PSers make this leap without having anxiety! I''m arranging to have the stones brought in and I will let you know what happens

Marian,

I''m going through the same thing and I feel that bringing them together in the same place so you can compare side-by-side is the way to go. Then it''s just a matter of which one you like better. Perhaps look at both through an Idealscope or WF viewer to check out leakage and how well formed the H&As are. Hopefully you will gravitate to one over the other when they are side-by-side.

If neither "speaks" to you more than the other, I guess it comes down to size vs. mind-clean. But can you really notice the 0.079 ct size difference? Unless you carry around the loupe with you to use when you and others view the diamond, will you ever see the inclusions? If they are tough to see even with the loupe, I can''t imagine it ever to be possible to see with the naked eye.

Personally, I like the idea of an eye-clean stone where I can still pick out the inclusions with the loupe. My wife-to-be will never be able to see the flaws with the naked eye, but we have the security that whenever we take it to any jeweler anywhere we will always be able to know when we get it back that our diamond is still in the ring because we can whip out the loupe when we pick it up and see our diamond''s "fingerprints".

Good luck to you.

Snarleyow



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"Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue."

 

[risingsun]

Thanks, Snarleyow

It's a nice dilemma to have! I currently have an ACA in my engagement ring and it's a beauty. WF's customer service is beyond excellent. I also have a number of HOF pieces. Also gorgeous. I wouldn't be considering the HOF, but my jeweler made the cost to me a non issue. I wish us both well. My cat is on my keyboard. Most difficult to see or type

 

[MissGotRocks]

How exciting - nothing better than an upgrade! What is the size of your current ering stone?

I doubt you could go wrong with either but am surprised that the HOF stone would be in the same price range as the ACA! I have a G SI1 stone that is completely eyeclean. The inclusions are not under the table area which helps immensely though. I''m guessing that AGS is pretty stringent on it''s SI1 grading (at least that''s what I found with my AGS0 stone) so that the inclusions probably won''t be seen with the naked eye.

Being able to compare them side by side is a godsend - you''ll at least have no doubts. Can''t wait to hear what you think and good luck to you!

 

[risingsun]

Date: 10/2/2008 11:53:59 AM
Author: MissGotRocks
How exciting - nothing better than an upgrade! What is the size of your current ering stone?

I doubt you could go wrong with either but am surprised that the HOF stone would be in the same price range as the ACA! I have a G SI1 stone that is completely eyeclean. The inclusions are not under the table area which helps immensely though. I''m guessing that AGS is pretty stringent on it''s SI1 grading (at least that''s what I found with my AGS0 stone) so that the inclusions probably won''t be seen with the naked eye.

Being able to compare them side by side is a godsend - you''ll at least have no doubts. Can''t wait to hear what you think and good luck to you!

The HOF stone is much more expensive, but my jeweler is willing to give me the full retail value on my ACA for a trade in. I''m upgrading from a 1.234 ct diamond. The inclusions are pinpoints under the table that the current vendor has said are not visible with the naked eye and difficult to see under the loupe. My jeweler hasn''t seen the stone yet. Because of the prices on the HOF, he sells a lot of H SI1 stones. I''ll be interested to see this diamond and find out if it passes my own eyeball test! I''m nervous with anticipation

 

[honey22]

I would stick with the VS2, you sound like you may not be 100% happy with the SI clarity thing, and I would be hesitant to give away my lifetime tradein on the ACA from WF.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 10/2/2008 11:27:06 PM
Author: honey22
I would stick with the VS2, you sound like you may not be 100% happy with the SI clarity thing, and I would be hesitant to give away my lifetime tradein on the ACA from WF.

I''ll go one further, I wouldn''t. But that''s just me.

RS, the size difference in diameter is really moot here. I''d personally go for the ACA.

 

[risingsun]

HOF also has a lifetime upgrade policy, so whichever I choose, I can go bigger. I still need to see the HOF. I tried on a 1.5 and 1.6 some months ago and could see a difference in size between them, as compared to my current stone, and on my hand. I remember thinking that the extra .10 made more of a difference than I thought. I'm waffling, no doubt. Either the HOF will be clean or not. I'm seeing it tomorrow

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/3/2008 10:54:05 AM
Author: risingsun
HOF also has a lifetime upgrade policy, so whichever I choose, I can go bigger. I still need to see the HOF. I tried on a 1.5 and 1.6 some months ago and could see a difference in size between them, as compared to my current stone, and on my hand. I remember thinking that the extra .10 made more of a difference than I thought. I''m waffling, no doubt. Either the HOF will be clean or not. I''m seeing it tomorrow

I will be really interested to hear how you get on Marian!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 10/3/2008 11:10:59 AM
Author: Lorelei

I will be really interested to hear how you get on Marian!

Me too!

 

[AprilBaby]

I would get the bigger one but I dont have a mind clean problem...just has to be eye clean.

 

[NeverEndingUpgrade]

I would go bigger. The highest clarity I have ever bought in a diamond is SI1 because I always want bigger.

 

[risingsun]

Thanks for all the feedback. You all rock the house

 

[NeverEndingUpgrade]

I made a mistake. I bought a VS2 diamond once but sold it to buy an SI1. Sorry to mislead. I can''t appreciate high clarity diamonds anyway when the price makes them so much less affordable. In other words, I don''t want to pay for something I can''t see, when what I CAN see costs so much anyway (settings, etc.)!!!!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 10/3/2008 9:51:38 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 10/2/2008 11:27:06 PM
Author: honey22
I would stick with the VS2, you sound like you may not be 100% happy with the SI clarity thing, and I would be hesitant to give away my lifetime tradein on the ACA from WF.

I''ll go one further, I wouldn''t. But that''s just me.

RS, the size difference in diameter is really moot here. I''d personally go for the ACA.

Ditto! And since HOF are much higher priced, once you make that trade, you will likely be stuck paying MUCH higher prices if you ever upgrade in the future.

(Plus, I''d want the VS2, but some of you probably already suspected that!)

 

[Ellen]

Date: 10/3/2008 10:22:14 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Date: 10/3/2008 9:51:38 AM
Author: Ellen

I''ll go one further, I wouldn''t. But that''s just me.

RS, the size difference in diameter is really moot here. I''d personally go for the ACA.

Ditto! And since HOF are much higher priced, once you make that trade, you will likely be stuck paying MUCH higher prices if you ever upgrade in the future.

(Plus, I''d want the VS2, but some of you probably already suspected that!)

*waiting impatiently for the verdict*

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/4/2008 9:17:58 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 10/3/2008 10:22:14 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Date: 10/3/2008 9:51:38 AM
Author: Ellen

I''ll go one further, I wouldn''t. But that''s just me.

RS, the size difference in diameter is really moot here. I''d personally go for the ACA.

Ditto! And since HOF are much higher priced, once you make that trade, you will likely be stuck paying MUCH higher prices if you ever upgrade in the future.

(Plus, I''d want the VS2, but some of you probably already suspected that!)

*waiting impatiently for the verdict*

 

[risingsun]

Ladies! I haven''t left the house yet

I''ll check back later

 

[Ellen]

Date: 10/4/2008 9:55:46 AM
Author: risingsun
Ladies! I haven''t left the house yet

I''ll check back later

 

[risingsun]

After a discussion with Leslie, I have decided not to bring in the WF stone for comparison. I know what I''m getting with an ACA, since I have one. I will be basing my decision strictly on the clarity of the HOF. It''s not the test I had planned, but I think it will serve. I will also discuss the cost of an upgrade. Thanks for the advice and I''ll be back with a decision--I just hope it''s a clear cut choice...no pun intended tee hee.

 

[risingsun]

Date: 10/4/2008 10:08:10 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 10/4/2008 9:55:46 AM
Author: risingsun
Ladies! I haven''t left the house yet

I''ll check back later

You are one of a kind...you know that, right

 

[canuk-gal]

Date: 10/4/2008 10:13:01 AM
Author: risingsun

Date: 10/4/2008 10:08:10 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 10/4/2008 9:55:46 AM
Author: risingsun
Ladies! I haven''t left the house yet

I''ll check back later

You are one of a kind...you know that, right

HI:

I''ll say!

. Good luck on your venture, Marian!

cheers--Sharon