Panhandler80
Rough_Rock
- Joined
- Jun 27, 2011
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- 19
Understandably I've caught a lot of heat on the post I started earlier last week.
I have drafted a plan for getting my money back.
On to a seperate issue; I started looking at GIAs exclusively because they are the authority and I figured a diamond would be pretty close to what cert says.
The diamond in question from other post... cert says:
Ex Cut
Ex Sym
VG Polisy
F color
SI2
F Color
Appraiser says same thing except
I1
I color
Wow. Big swing.
I had never seen an inclusion from the top. Yesterday when I posted that the I1 did not suprise me, that was because I was seeing them through the side.
Showed her last night and from the top she found the inclusion in short order. I told her she was crazy, but I saw it this morning and after having seen it, my eye can pick it out pretty easily. I have never viewed this stone under magnification.
So, we know for a FACT, that GIA was off one on the clarity, and a swing from F to I in color is huge. I understand that the local appraiser could easily just be showing how tough he is and how HE knows what a diamond really is and I should deal with HIM and his B&M store, etc. I also understand that it's impossible to truly grade color on a mounted stone. Still F to I is huge.
Does not change the fact that GIA completely missed the mark on clarity, and it makes me wonder about color.
All of that being said, with the exception of the inclusion that I can now see with naked eye (granted that's a big deal), I like the diamond. It is VERY BRILLIANT in all light conditions and to me it looks as white as it can be.
Seller did say that I might be able to "think you see something from the top, but then you never see it again and can't re-find it." So I knew there was a chance of it being there. That's beside the point though, now. HOWEVER, to me it looks like an F. So if it weren't for the inclusion I'd be happy with the diamond because it looks good to ME.
Which brings me back to my POINT... I now have what's definitely an I1 stone, who knows what color and a whole lot less confidence in GIA. However, it's a color that is good to me and it is a color that is confirmed on GIA's website, and that cert number was taken off the stone by my local guy. So GIA says it's an F, but they also said it's an SI2, which clearly it is NOT. Looks like an F to me and I like the color, but they missed the clarity.
QUESTION:
1. Why is nobody on here jumping GIAs butt for missing the clarity grade.
2. If I can't trust GIA, then why in the HECK am I paying more for it. Why shouldn't I get my money back and take it to a Motek type place and just find a diamond that sparkles and looks awesome with no visible inclusions and just save myself that money?
I have drafted a plan for getting my money back.
On to a seperate issue; I started looking at GIAs exclusively because they are the authority and I figured a diamond would be pretty close to what cert says.
The diamond in question from other post... cert says:
Ex Cut
Ex Sym
VG Polisy
F color
SI2
F Color
Appraiser says same thing except
I1
I color
Wow. Big swing.
I had never seen an inclusion from the top. Yesterday when I posted that the I1 did not suprise me, that was because I was seeing them through the side.
Showed her last night and from the top she found the inclusion in short order. I told her she was crazy, but I saw it this morning and after having seen it, my eye can pick it out pretty easily. I have never viewed this stone under magnification.
So, we know for a FACT, that GIA was off one on the clarity, and a swing from F to I in color is huge. I understand that the local appraiser could easily just be showing how tough he is and how HE knows what a diamond really is and I should deal with HIM and his B&M store, etc. I also understand that it's impossible to truly grade color on a mounted stone. Still F to I is huge.
Does not change the fact that GIA completely missed the mark on clarity, and it makes me wonder about color.
All of that being said, with the exception of the inclusion that I can now see with naked eye (granted that's a big deal), I like the diamond. It is VERY BRILLIANT in all light conditions and to me it looks as white as it can be.
Seller did say that I might be able to "think you see something from the top, but then you never see it again and can't re-find it." So I knew there was a chance of it being there. That's beside the point though, now. HOWEVER, to me it looks like an F. So if it weren't for the inclusion I'd be happy with the diamond because it looks good to ME.
Which brings me back to my POINT... I now have what's definitely an I1 stone, who knows what color and a whole lot less confidence in GIA. However, it's a color that is good to me and it is a color that is confirmed on GIA's website, and that cert number was taken off the stone by my local guy. So GIA says it's an F, but they also said it's an SI2, which clearly it is NOT. Looks like an F to me and I like the color, but they missed the clarity.
QUESTION:
1. Why is nobody on here jumping GIAs butt for missing the clarity grade.
2. If I can't trust GIA, then why in the HECK am I paying more for it. Why shouldn't I get my money back and take it to a Motek type place and just find a diamond that sparkles and looks awesome with no visible inclusions and just save myself that money?