Gas in your area?

[kenny]

Fight back.
Buy a small fuel-effecient car that takes regular gas.

Learn to drive using minimum gas, instead of minimum time.

 

[marcy]

I paid $3.94 a gallon Friday. My husband filled his pickup this week and it cost $130.00.

 

[Bron357]

Here in Sydney I’m paying $1.69 for 1 litre.
A gallon that would be $6.39

 

[Bron357]

Does any electric bike come with AC?

Yes they all do.
The wind in your face !
At 10 mph thats equivilent fan level 1
At 20 mph fan level 2
At 30 mph fan level 3.
Fan is more efficient if youre going downhill with a tailwind.

 

[missy]

Fight back.
Buy a small fuel-effecient car that takes regular gas.

Learn to drive using minimum gas, instead of minimum time.

My DH and I only have one car between us.
We cycle everywhere we can.
We use our car maybe once or twice a week depending.

 

[GoldenTouch]

Here in Sydney I’m paying $1.69 for 1 litre.
A gallon that would be $6.39

I’m the same….

 

[Rhea]

I’m the same….

£1.38 per liter here, that's $7.12 per gallon. Gas is so cheap in the US!

 

[Asscherhalo_lover]

Fight back.
Buy a small fuel-effecient car that takes regular gas.

Learn to drive using minimum gas, instead of minimum time.

I went from an Altima hybrid (had it 12 years) and now have a CRV hybrid, they're such great cars! So far the CRV is even more efficient than the Altima.

 

[pearlsngems]

Bought gas yesterday at BJ's for $3.129-- about 10 days ago it was $2.969.

 

[pearlsngems]

And now it's 3.199.

 

[missy]

What’s Behind the Energy Crunch in Britain and Europe (Published 2021)

Natural gas prices have skyrocketed, pressuring manufacturers and households with high energy bills.

www.nytimes.com

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Oct. 14, 2021
Just as economies seemed to be returning to something like normal, an energy crunch has hit Britain, the rest of Europe and much of the world.
Natural gas, the main focus of this squeeze, is crucial for generating electricity, running factories and heating homes. It is also seen by some as a transition fuel away from highly polluting coal.
Prices for natural gas have risen about sixfold, to record levels. The surge means the wholesale price of electricity has reached stratospheric levels, making headlines across Europe as consumers, battered by the pandemic, are now hit by big increases in their home energy bills. These high costs are also undermining the economics of companies that make fertilizer, steel, glass and other materials that require a lot of electricity.
Britain, whose power system depends heavily on gas, is taking some of the hardest blows, creating major headaches for the government of Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

Mr. Johnson has already been pushed into subsidizing a fertilizer factory and is under pressure to do more to prevent factory closures and job losses. He has also brought in military drivers in an effort to ease a shortage of gasoline, which has caused lines at filling stations.
The gas spike is also making geopolitical waves. Russia, Europe’s largest gas supplier, is being blamed for manipulating prices. The United States, in turn, has warned Moscow not to try to exploit the gas crunch for its own ends. The pinch could open the way for more exports of liquefied natural gas from shale drilling in the United States.
Here is a look at the energy issues rocking Britain and Europe.

Why have natural gas prices jumped so high?​

Demand for energy has jumped as the world economy has reawakened from shutdowns brought on by the pandemic. The sudden need for natural gas took the energy industry by surprise, and prices shot up. The approach of winter, the major season of gas consumption, has lifted prices further as countries in Asia, Europe and North America outbid each other to make sure they have fuel to stay warm.
China, the world’s largest gas importer, is snapping up gas to fuel power plants and cut carbon emissions. China’s aggressive purchases are drawing gas away from Europe at a time when deliveries from Russia, a key supplier, have been disappointing.

European countries normally stock up on gas in the summer, when prices are relatively cheap. Not this year. European storage levels are low, making markets so jittery that there have been some of the wildest swings in gas prices that traders have ever seen.



The Nord Stream 2 pipeline facility in Lubmin, Germany. The Kremlin has suggested that the gas crunch might ease if the pipeline was quickly approved by European regulators.Credit...Odd Andersen/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

Is this all Russia’s fault?​

No. Many factors have contributed. But markets watch the largest supplier to Europe very closely, and analysts say Russia’s recent signals that it will keep a tight grip on gas flows to Europe has played a big role in recent price spikes.

“A lot of those have been triggered by things the Russians have effectively done,” said Trevor Sikorski, the head of gas at Energy Aspects, a research firm.
President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia is trying to use the energy crunch for his own ends. On Wednesday he said the gas crunch would ease as soon as European regulators approved Nord Stream 2, the politically fraught gas pipeline that runs underwater from Russia to Germany. Once operating, the pipeline will likely strengthen the grip of Gazprom, the Russian gas company, on European markets.
On the other hand, some analysts doubt that the problem would be solved as soon as the European Union and Germany sign off on the new pipeline. Russia is probably facing a crunch of its own, according to Henning Gloystein, a director at Eurasia Group, a political research firm. As part of a deal with the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries to bolster markets during the pandemic, Russian companies were ordered to cut back oil production, and as a result their gas production was also curtailed and has been slow to recover.



Britain has to a great extent phased out coal in power generation and built large capacity in renewable energy, particularly offshore wind.Credit...Suzie Howell for The New York Times

Why is Britain in such bad shape?​

Britain is paying a price for a combination of successes and failures. The country has to a great extent phased out coal for power generation and built up capacity in renewable energy, particularly offshore wind. These moves cut greenhouse gas emissions and help curb global warming.

But shuttering coal plants while the country’s aging nuclear plants are gradually closing has made Britain dependent on gas for around 40 percent of the country’s electricity, far more than any other fuel. (In France, by contrast, nuclear plants provide about 70 percent of electricity.) It hasn’t helped that the breezes that spin Britain’s wind turbines, which generate about 20 percent of the country’s power on average, have been unusually weak in recent months.

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“That success in climate policy is coming back to bite,” Mr. Gloystein said.
Britain is not yet far enough in its shift to clean energy to escape the sting of leaps in world gas prices.
“We haven’t at this moment really got enough renewables to really punch through,” said Martin Young, a power analyst at Investec, a securities firm. “Gas is typically setting the price.” Britain’s hefty taxes on carbon emissions are also adding to electricity costs, he said.
A fire that knocked out a large cable bringing electric power from France added to the woes. And unlike other European countries, Britain has not invested in gas storage facilities, instead allowing one major such facility to close in 2017.

Are consumers getting any relief?​

The soaring wholesale price of electricity is being passed along to homeowners, stretching budgets and forcing governments to intervene. In Spain, the government recently, in effect, said it would take profits earned on electric power generation from wind and solar to compensate consumers for high gas prices.
About 15 million British households were recently hit with energy price increases in the 12 percent range under a government program to cap big jumps in rates. The capped rates are reviewed every six months; the next review, in April, is widely expected to result in a bigger jump.
Another issue facing homeowners: Many electricity suppliers that offered customers low-priced deals have found themselves unable to meet their commitments at current prices. Many of these relatively small companies have collapsed in recent weeks, and the accounts of their estimated 1.7 million customers are being auctioned off to stronger companies. No one will lose power because of these business failures, but ultimately those customers will pay higher rates, and the companies that take on the customers will be able to pass on extra expenses to bill payers.

Will businesses get a bailout?​

Companies that use a lot of energy are demanding the British government provide some sort of assistance to help pay their skyrocketing bills, but it remains unclear how ministers will respond.
UK Steel, a trade group, said monthly wholesale electric power prices rose to 200 pounds ($273) per megawatt-hour in September, roughly four times what the industry considers normal and nearly double the wholesale price in Germany and France.
Having borrowed heavily to finance furloughs and other programs to cushion the impact of the pandemic, the government is reluctant to spend more.
Recently, though, the government agreed to temporarily subsidize the operations of a fertilizer plant. The factory’s parent, CF Industries, had shut the plant because of high energy costs, but the carbon dioxide it produced as a byproduct was vital to the food industry.
The government is reportedly preparing to announce a low-interest loan program for the most heavily affected businesses, but that is unlikely to assuage executives, who are also seeking relief from Britain’s taxes on carbon emissions.

Gasoline shortages? That’s a different problem.​

Long lines at gas stations in Britain last month were caused not by a shortage of fuel but by a shortage of truck drivers to deliver the fuel. Partly because many European drivers have returned home from Britain because of Brexit, there are not enough of them to keep gas stations’ tanks filled.

The problem snowballed when news reports of long lines at filling stations prompted panic buying.
In recent weeks the problem has subsided.

Is this the new normal?​

It could be for some time, not unlike the supply chain issues that continue to put a drag on the delivery of goods. Business executives note that these price spikes are occurring in the fall, not winter, when demand for gas revs up, and so they suspect the crunch could worsen. A lot depends on weather. A change in Russia’s approach might help.
But analysts say Britain could be the major European economy most at risk of not having enough energy to run its economy. “Should this happen, the government would likely demand factories to reduce output” in order ensure household supply of gas, Mr. Gloystein wrote in a note to clients.

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[missy]

Woohoo Costco just opened their gas station and the gas today is $3.26 for regular. The Wawa which is generally pretty competitive price wise is $3.39 today. So we just got our first Costco gas at the shore. Sweet.

 

[Arcadian]

Some of the gas stations near i95 are at 5 dollars a gallon. Thats insane.

 

[jaysonsmom]

A friend posted this on FB today….thought this was funny, given that they are a family with 2 Tesla’s! I on the other hand did not think it was that funny….but it is true here in SoCal, thank goodness my husband and I both get gas cards through work.

 

[SparklieBug]

From my niece, in Vancouver BC, where gas is being rationed due to supply lines severed:

Price	Station	City
156.9	Shell 1785 Main St Vancouver Nov 3,10:41 PM	Vancouver
157.9	Mobil 3185 Grandview Hwy Vancouver Nov 4,7:26 AM	Vancouver
157.9	Petro-Canada 3110 E 54th Ave Vancouver Nov 4,6:32 AM	Vancouver
157.9	Petro-Canada 2398 E 1st Ave Vancouver Nov 4,5:22 AM	Vancouver

This is price p/litre ($157.90) which is over $15 p/gallon.

 

[Begonia]

I’m in Victoria and fuel is out everywhere due to flooding. I’ve stopped at many stations throughout the past 4 days and all out. Was finally able to find some this morning at 7am, but you can only have 30 litres (after a 30 minute wait, which is nothing compared to some places)…rationing. We’re losing this environmental war.

 

[stracci2000]

I paid $3.25 yesterday.

 

[pearlsngems]

BJ's came down by 4 cents, now 3.299.

 

[SparklieBug]

I’m in Victoria and fuel is out everywhere due to flooding. I’ve stopped at many stations throughout the past 4 days and all out. Was finally able to find some this morning at 7am, but you can only have 30 litres (after a 30 minute wait, which is nothing compared to some places)…rationing. We’re losing this environmental war.

@Begonia Close friends of ours are in Victoria, and fortunately had a full tank of gas, so they're just staying close to home. They did, however, have a mini-flood in their basement!

Glad you were able to finally find fuel! Where we are (outside the lower mainland), there's lots of fuel but people have been panic-buying/hoarding groceries. Again. Unbelievable.

 

[Begonia]

@Begonia Close friends of ours are in Victoria, and fortunately had a full tank of gas, so they're just staying close to home. They did, however, have a mini-flood in their basement!

Glad you were able to finally find fuel! Where we are (outside the lower mainland), there's lots of fuel but people have been panic-buying/hoarding groceries. Again. Unbelievable.

Yeah. Fuel was gonna run out but hoarding made it happen extremely rapidly. I’m an essential worker (ferries), but no help from the govt or the corporation on getting workers fuel. Not too sure how they reckon goods get to the island??? This too…

 

[SparklieBug]

Yeah. Fuel was gonna run out but hoarding made it happen extremely rapidly. I’m an essential worker (ferries), but no help from the govt or the corporation on getting workers fuel. Not too sure how they reckon goods get to the island??? This too…

There appears to be a lack of critical thinking on the part of bureaucrats, here. Not sure just what their logic (or lack thereof?) is for so many things. Like, saving the provincial warning system for...tsunami's only? How often do we have tsunami's? Good grief.

Okay. Rant over. Back on topic.

 

[Begonia]

There appears to be a lack of critical thinking on the part of bureaucrats, here. Not sure just what their logic (or lack thereof?) is for so many things. Like, saving the provincial warning system for...tsunami's only? How often do we have tsunami's? Good grief.

Okay. Rant over. Back on topic. atmospheric River gonna dump a ton of rain into the Fraser River up by Prince Rupert. Likelihood of mote flooding. Round 2 about to happen.

Another atmospheric river is gonna dump a ton of rain into the Fraser up by Prince Rupert. Round 2 is about to happen. Could be a lot more flooding, God help us.

 

[pearlsngems]

Bumping this thread now that gas prices at the pump are rising rapidly.
Last week I paid $3.479/gal at BJ's.
Today it was $4.099.

 

[stracci2000]

$4.19 this morning.
Up .30 since yesterday!

 

[missy]

Passing a gas station now. $4.15

 

[DAF]

Gas has gone up $ 0.60 in my area in the past week. It's $ 4.09 and nine-tenths.

 

[kenny]

Before Hitler Jr. started his dirty deed, Chevron charged $4.69 for self serve regular.
Last time I noticed (4 or 5 days ago) and it was up a buck at $5.69.

By now it's certainly well over a buck.

 

[autumngems]

Before this (Russia) mess it was about 3.89 now anywhere from 4.17 to 4.40 for mid-grade here in NC

 

[DAF]

Gas has gone up $ 0.60 in my area in the past week. It's $ 4.09 and nine-tenths.

I went out to run errands, gas is up another $ 0.10, so make that $ 0.70 total.

 

[pinkjewel]

With the price of groceries it has been paying us to fill up at Grocery store gas pumps that give a discount depending on how much you've spent. My hubby filled up on Sunday for $3.35/gal