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woofmama|1362345373|3395377 said:
Wow Matata-that must be so unsettling for you. Do you believe in the afterlife? Is there a sense of foreboding when you see it or is it a factual kind of feeling? My nephew is a paramedic and has been at the scene when people are dying. Maybe you should say something-tell them to make peace with god? IDK-very eery.
No foreboding just a factual feeling so strong I'm willing to bet my life on it. My belief system is best described as the juncture where science and religion meet. That is, where there are scientific theories and hypothesis that provide some relevance to religious belief. So, yes, I think we travel to a different dimension when our bodies die. I don't call it heaven or hell, others might. I also think we are recycled and our energy (souls) return for another trial and error at life. I believe these things because they are more palatable to me than the teachings of most organized religions and there are strong science-based indications of those possibilities. I believe what people experience during Near Death Experiences are entirely influenced by their religious/spiritual beliefs.

Whether I say something to someone would have to depend on my gut feelings about that person's ability to process the info. The last thing I'd want to do is cause someone fear or anxiety. Geez, what if I became the catalyst for the death?

iLander, are you here? Do you have coping strategies you can share?
 

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I've had some good readings and some bad ones ie "you're cursed but for $1000 I can remove the curse for you." :nono: I don't think I have a gift but, I have had a really scary dream that did come true.

My mom has had a few telling dreams in her lifetime. The most prominent one being when my brother was little, she was overseas and my grandparents were watching us. My brother was a mischievous little boy who decided to not just gently tug on our two dachshunds tails but really yank on them while they were eating. He was bitten and pretty badly to the point where stitches were involved. She dreamed the whole thing and my grandparents even kept it from her until she returned and saw the hospital bill.

My most freaky, come true dream involved an acquaintance. This guy wasn't a good guy, and I knew him through friends who had grown up together with him. Prior to my dream, I hadn't seen him or talked to him in over a year.

I dreamt that this guy, myself and my DH were on a road trip. We stopped at a gas station where this guy stole $60 out of my purse and that really put me over the edge in my dream. (IRL, I'd be upset but would never react like in my dream. I wasn't a fan of this guy but do not wish him ill will.) I told him he was worthless and that he'd be better off dead. When I woke up from my dream, my hands were clenched so tightly that I actually broke the skin of my palms in a few spots from my fingernails. I immediately woke up my DH and told him all about it. The dream was crazy intense. We both thought it was weird but just shrugged it off.

IRL, he was working at a dead end job, completely addicted to drugs and constantly cheated on his wife. I met up with my friends who knew him that night and we did a Christmas gift exchange where I told them about my weird dream. We all laughed about it and thought how weird/strange. A few days later (because DH and I were out of town), I finally got in touch with my friends who were trying to contact me. The guy had died that morning. Apparently, he got in a huge fight with his wife after she discovered his indiscretions. He had died the morning that I woke up from my dream locked in his car running from carbon monoxide.

I wonder if there was anything that I could have done. The chill that I got running down my back after hearing the news lasted for days even now, when I write this out, I can't help but feel chills down my back!
 

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ChristineRose|1362344590|3395372 said:
I do not believe in any of this.

I could be convinced though, if a reader could pass some flavor of this test. Ten subjects are read. The reader gets whatever she needs to to do the reading--videos of the palms, birthday and hour. Maybe the reader gets to meet the subjects. Maybe the subjects sit in front of the reader, but are blindfolded and wear earplugs so they cannot see the reading.

To the extent that the reader can get info from the process, the subjects are similar. For example, you would not expect the fortune of a 90 year old man born in Berlin to much like the fortune of a 17 year woman born in Los Angeles. So you would not put both such people in your group if an astrologer needs that info.

Another easy way to simplify it would be to have some sort of multiple choice test. "Did your parents die before age 12?" "What was your grandmother's name?" The reader could chat with the subjects at length so long as certain subjects were verboten.

All ten people are given all ten readings. They pick the one that fits them best. Or the multiple choice tests are scored and it's determined if the right one is the high score. Pass is seven of ten.

There are many variants and the tests are set up to meet the needs of the reader as much as possible.

I'm not following your credibility test at all - I find it confusing. Sorry! :confused:
 

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Matata|1362346475|3395391 said:
woofmama|1362345373|3395377 said:
Wow Matata-that must be so unsettling for you. Do you believe in the afterlife? Is there a sense of foreboding when you see it or is it a factual kind of feeling? My nephew is a paramedic and has been at the scene when people are dying. Maybe you should say something-tell them to make peace with god? IDK-very eery.
No foreboding just a factual feeling so strong I'm willing to bet my life on it. My belief system is best described as the juncture where science and religion meet. That is, where there are scientific theories and hypothesis that provide some relevance to religious belief. So, yes, I think we travel to a different dimension when our bodies die. I don't call it heaven or hell, others might. I also think we are recycled and our energy (souls) return for another trial and error at life. I believe these things because they are more palatable to me than the teachings of most organized religions and there are strong science-based indications of those possibilities. I believe what people experience during Near Death Experiences are entirely influenced by their religious/spiritual beliefs.

Whether I say something to someone would have to depend on my gut feelings about that person's ability to process the info. The last thing I'd want to do is cause someone fear or anxiety. Geez, what if I became the catalyst for the death?

iLander, are you here? Do you have coping strategies you can share?

This all is really hard. Again, I have to remark that it seems unfair for you to have this "gift" when it seems there is not a darned bit of good to come from it and it only ends up burdening you.

General question for the group: Do you think there is a hierarchy in the psychic/fortune telling world? Are mediums considered higher up than palm readers? Do tea leaf readers still exist and are they considered on the same level as palm or tarot card readers? I know so little about this whole realm - curious but intimidated.
 

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webdiva|1362095811|3393094 said:
Must like I feel about there being a god, I'm open to all possibilities. I don't think all fortune tellers are legit, if fortune telling actually exists, but I'm open to the realm that it exists. I do think some people have more insight into others and can "feel" things.

We went to see an animal communicator for a charity event for homeless pets, which hubby and I were laughing about and thought was "cute"...right until she told us that our older dog had been abused, that his right wrist had been hurt . He proceeded to put his right paw on the ledge above us when she was done tellling us that. *cue twilight zone music* I do find myself fulfilling the dogs' requests she communicated to us - the younger one likes sweet treats like berries and the older one hates my baby talk. ;-)

Kinda of off topic, there are a ton of psychics here in LA that rent prime real estate - I'm always amazed that the business is so lucrative!
Do you know the name of the animal communicator you saw? I would love to know why Coco insists on taking all her food out of her bowl and eating it off the floor haha!
 

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minmin001|1362329547|3395170 said:
iLander! do you see me buying a house any time soon? We been seeking but keep getting out bid by cash offers =(

minmin, are you in CA? I read that about 35-40% (?) of home sales here are cash buyers. Both houses we were outbid on were by cash buyers. First one was in the mid $500ks, second was in the high $500ks. My friend was nearly outbid by a cash buyer and their Bay area townhouse was close to $700k. It's insane. :nono:
 

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ForteKitty|1362352416|3395451 said:
minmin001|1362329547|3395170 said:
iLander! do you see me buying a house any time soon? We been seeking but keep getting out bid by cash offers =(

minmin, are you in CA? I read that about 35-40% (?) of home sales here are cash buyers. Both houses we were outbid on were by cash buyers. First one was in the mid $500ks, second was in the high $500ks. My friend was nearly outbid by a cash buyer and their Bay area townhouse was close to $700k. It's insane. :nono:

No I'm in Austin, but since lots of company from CA are moving over due to tax increase I wouldn't be surprised that those cash buyers are from CA :blackeye:
 

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minousbijoux|1362348389|3395407 said:
ChristineRose|1362344590|3395372 said:
I do not believe in any of this.

I could be convinced though, if a reader could pass some flavor of this test. Ten subjects are read. The reader gets whatever she needs to to do the reading--videos of the palms, birthday and hour. Maybe the reader gets to meet the subjects. Maybe the subjects sit in front of the reader, but are blindfolded and wear earplugs so they cannot see the reading.

To the extent that the reader can get info from the process, the subjects are similar. For example, you would not expect the fortune of a 90 year old man born in Berlin to much like the fortune of a 17 year woman born in Los Angeles. So you would not put both such people in your group if an astrologer needs that info.

Another easy way to simplify it would be to have some sort of multiple choice test. "Did your parents die before age 12?" "What was your grandmother's name?" The reader could chat with the subjects at length so long as certain subjects were verboten.

All ten people are given all ten readings. They pick the one that fits them best. Or the multiple choice tests are scored and it's determined if the right one is the high score. Pass is seven of ten.

There are many variants and the tests are set up to meet the needs of the reader as much as possible.

I'm not following your credibility test at all - I find it confusing. Sorry! :confused:

Sorry, I do have a tendency to ramble!

The essence of it is that 10 people each get a reading. The whole thing is controlled so that no one gets to see their reading until after the fact, and the fortune teller gets only minimal info in advance. This is the hardest part, really, because often the readers want to talk to people. But assuming you can work through the details, each person then gets to hear all 10 readings. They then say which one they think was theirs. If seven of ten name the right reading, the fortune teller "wins."
 

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Hospatogi, I used to foster for an animal rescue group. A behavior specialist spoke to our group and said that animals that started life outside where food was likely thrown on the ground for them don't "understand" bowls, and that's why they take food out and put it on the floor to eat. How old was Coco when you got her?
I've also wondered about animal communicators. It seems so far fetched, but not impossible to believe.
 

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I really do think people have different levels of insight. I'm nowhere close to being a psychic, and I definitely don't have the abilities that some of you ladies have, but I have always had a sense for "bad people".

My mom has zero intuition about people. To her everyone is nice, and to quote "God didn't make bad people, but sometimes good people make bad choices." This is what I always heard when I was a kid and told her about "bad people." Bad people are what four-year-old me called the people who made the hairs on my arm stand on end by just walking in to a room. I get this feeling and I know the person hurts people and doesn't care a bit about it.

There were 2 bad people married to my aunts. Both were charismatic, full of kind words, always there to help. I remember telling my mom about them and she wouldn't hear a word of it. Turns out both of them were abusers. One I referred to in my head as the devil. He was the scariest bad person ever. After his divorce, he started stalking the family. He tried to kidnap my cousins a several times. Not because he wanted to be with them (he never bothered to call), but because he didn't want my aunt to have them. The last attempt happened a few years ago. My cousin was 24. The police found duct tape and plastic garbage bags on the front passenger seat of his car. Evil.

Other incidents have been complete strangers. One night I was taking the last bus home from the library and I just got this feeling about a man who walked on. The bus was full and he didn't do anything out of the ordinary. I just held my breath and watched him. He asked the bus driver to let him know when we passed a pizza place, said he was picking up a pizza. The pizza place was nowhere near my apartment so I was terrified when I watched him get off the bus at my stop! He crossed the street so I started walking home. It didn't take me long to realize he was following me on the opposite side of the street. I ended up running in to a coffee shop to get away from him. He stood in the parking lot for half an hour while I drank coffee and chatted with the owner. She was concerned enough that she had her son walk me the rest of the way home.

My little cousin has been the same since she was 3. She is terrified of my aunt's boyfriend (not her mom). Like look of terror, shaking, hiding. He's been in the picture for her whole life so its not a case of her being afraid of new people. He does put me on edge, but not to the same degree. She told her parents that he's "a bad man" and doesn't want him at any family events. My dad told her parents about how I was as a child and how all of the "bad people" turned out to be psychopaths so they're listening to her.

I don't know if its a type of insight, or if its just that these people give off some sort of behavioural cue. I think if I can have these types of feelings, why can't other people have a more intense and detailed version.
 

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minmin001|1362329547|3395170 said:
iLander! do you see me buying a house any time soon? We been seeking but keep getting out bid by cash offers =(

I think, when spring rolls around, you'll be really happy that you didn't get any of those houses. I've found that, in life, what we don't do has more effect on fate than what we do.
 

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JewelFreak|1362334632|3395218 said:
iLander|1362322540|3395096 said:
Enerchi- palm reader is the one you want.

Laurie- the tarot cards will not work for you the first time, try twice with different people.

I had my palm read once and the guy was so accurate it was scary. He said I was self-employed, had a good business, that I would someday live in two places at once (we bought a weekend home years later) and that someone who had died when I was 19 would be my guide through life (that was my mother). He also said that my religion line came into play later in life and would change the course of my life. Not sure how that last one will play out, unless I'm gong to become a nun or join a cult. :confused: I hope not on both of those!

iLander, is that a prediction or advice? What about palm reading or tea leaves?

--- Laurie

I feel like your first card reading will be a throw-away, like the first pancake, the second will be okay. I don't know anything about tea leaves, I've never done that.
 

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woofmama|1362337565|3395250 said:
Very interesting topic. I do believe that many people have a gift. My mom is very intuned to things but struggles with using it because she is a Christian and feels it is a dark talent. I often will dream or think about someone I haven't seen or thought of in years and will run into them within a couple of weeks.

I had my tarot cards read for fun many years ago. It was shortly after my 1st husband & I seperated. I didn't share anything with the reader. She was spot on on everything. She pegged my current situation & all that she predicted came to pass. I still have her words echoing in my mind from that night-What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Those words got me through many trials in the couple years following my divorce. Wish I could find her again but it was 19 yrs ago.

Ilander-It must be difficult for you to sense things without being able to say anything. I too have had dark feelings about people and can't quite put my finger on it. I follow my intuition alot. I have never had as strong a feeling as you did about that woman. Must be hard to wrap your mind around.

Should I persue getting a reading?

How can it be a dark talent if it's God-given? Didn't Christ know his fate before it happened? "One among you will betray me"? Or maybe I got that wrong, it's been many years since I read the Bible. Don't worry, it's not voodoo, that's the scary stuff, IMHO.

A strong intuition is a good thing, trust your feelings about people. It gets better as you get older, and then people call it wisdom.

Honestly? I think you should stick with palm reading, it's not as easy to get scammed with that. When they put down the tarot cards, they're reading your face, and looking for reactions. Unless you're a good poker player, stick with palm reading.
 

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minousbijoux|1362338527|3395266 said:
I love this thread and I would love to go but I fall into the makes me nervous category. I think I'd be pretty easy to read - I wear who I am pretty openly. But what if there is nothing good to say? What if they struggle to find something positive to say and you see they are struggling? Eeek! I don't know what I'd do if I saw them reading and all of a sudden a dark cloud of a look appeared on their face.

iLander, it doesn't seem fair to me that your ability "tunes in" when you least expect it...I would absolutely be shocked and scared if I was in a restaurant and got such a dark feeling from someone like that woman, and I would feel helpless too, like what if she could sense that I could sense? :o :o

I've only gotten that evil from one person once in my life on a train in Italy where we encountered a team of pick pockets. I was pretty sure it was them but when he looked at me, there was pure evil dead in his eyes. I couldn't even talk I was so scared. That was 30 years ago and I will never forget it...

I wasn't really scared, but I was surprised that no one else could see what seemed totally obvious to me. It was odd, I've never had that before or since. I'm thinking it is handy to have, though.

That guy in Italy probably was pure evil. They say the best way to judge a person is to look at their left eye. It shows their true selves. I've found it is helpful in meetings. :D
 

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Matata|1362342061|3395315 said:
woofmama|1362337565|3395250 said:
Ilander-It must be difficult for you to sense things without being able to say anything.
This! This this this. I inherited a few "gifts" from the maternal side of my family. One that mystifies me is the ability to tell when someone (including animals) is going to die. I suppose it's a form of fortune telling. It happens most often with people & animals who are acquaintances more than it does with people with whom I share a strong emotional bond. It also happens with famous people when I see them on TV or see a picture in a print medium. The deaths always occur within 3 days of when I see a veil, sort of like a cataract, come over their eyes.

What am I supposed to do with that, say "hey, I see a veil on your eyes, hope your affairs are in order?" One time I tried to intervene and told a former supervisor, who always brought her dog to work, not to let her dog out that night because she would die. The dog had a tendency to roam. She looked at me like I was one brick shy of a full load, ignored my plea, and the dog was hit by a car that night and found dead in the gutter 2 blocks from home by another employee. I still see that sweet pooches face and remember when the veils came down. I think the dog knew but obviously can't prove that. So she died doing what made her happy, cruising her neighborhood. Maybe that's what mattered more than keeping her alive.

Friends who know and have witnessed this ability have asked that I don't say anything if I see a veil in their eyes. I'm still trying to figure out what value it can possibly be to others and what lessons I'm supposed to learn from it.

That's pretty cool! You should have been in medicine, make some use of it. I think it's awesome, congrats on that unique ability! :appl:
 

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Matata|1362346475|3395391 said:
woofmama|1362345373|3395377 said:
Wow Matata-that must be so unsettling for you. Do you believe in the afterlife? Is there a sense of foreboding when you see it or is it a factual kind of feeling? My nephew is a paramedic and has been at the scene when people are dying. Maybe you should say something-tell them to make peace with god? IDK-very eery.
No foreboding just a factual feeling so strong I'm willing to bet my life on it. My belief system is best described as the juncture where science and religion meet. That is, where there are scientific theories and hypothesis that provide some relevance to religious belief. So, yes, I think we travel to a different dimension when our bodies die. I don't call it heaven or hell, others might. I also think we are recycled and our energy (souls) return for another trial and error at life. I believe these things because they are more palatable to me than the teachings of most organized religions and there are strong science-based indications of those possibilities. I believe what people experience during Near Death Experiences are entirely influenced by their religious/spiritual beliefs.

Whether I say something to someone would have to depend on my gut feelings about that person's ability to process the info. The last thing I'd want to do is cause someone fear or anxiety. Geez, what if I became the catalyst for the death?

iLander, are you here? Do you have coping strategies you can share?

What's to cope? I don't have anything nearly as predictive as what you have, I have "psychic lite" at best. I'm not God or Kharma, that woman will atone sooner or later. You gotta have faith, too. :bigsmile:
 

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I always wanted to try it but like others, I'm afraid. I would be very afraid of hearing any hints about anyone dying thats close to me. I would also be afraid of hearing anything about my marriage going downhill. I do strongly believe that there are legitimate people with this gift. I have been wanting to speak to someone who can communicate with a friend of mine that passed. Ever since his death, I discovered my own 'gift' but it isn't something I use often...because I don't completely understand it.
 

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minousbijoux|1362348749|3395415 said:
General question for the group: Do you think there is a hierarchy in the psychic/fortune telling world? Are mediums considered higher up than palm readers? Do tea leaf readers still exist and are they considered on the same level as palm or tarot card readers? I know so little about this whole realm - curious but intimidated.

This is my personal opinion, based on nothing. Most psychics, the real ones, need to make a connection with the subject. They need to feel their energy to get in there and poke around, I know I did when I was finding stuff for people. The cards, and the palm, the tea leaves, they're all devices to make that connection. The palm reader is a physical connection, and it's the easiest, IMHO. The tarot cards also have a life of their own, and I rarely have those read. They are a bit freaky. Most accurate tarot reading I ever had was from a hair stylist who was doing it for an elementary school fair. See-- life of their own.

If you are intimidated, start with the palm reader, and don't worry about it, it's just for fun. Most of them will just have you shaking your head and wondering why you bothered. :rolleyes:
 

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@ gammygam and autumnnovember; you both should be happy that you have these extra bits of perception. It's helpful! Lean into it, trust it, it's just like any muscle, it will get better with use. I think everyone has abilities, I think civilization and society have made us ignore them.
 

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iLander|1362366253|3395594 said:
@ gammygam and autumnnovember; you both should be happy that you have these extra bits of perception. It's helpful! Lean into it, trust it, it's just like any muscle, it will get better with use. I think everyone has abilities, I think civilization and society have made us ignore them.

I like PART of the ability, but something happened recently involving death and it freaked me out...
 

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iLander|1362364431|3395579 said:
woofmama|1362337565|3395250 said:
Very interesting topic. I do believe that many people have a gift. My mom is very intuned to things but struggles with using it because she is a Christian and feels it is a dark talent. I often will dream or think about someone I haven't seen or thought of in years and will run into them within a couple of weeks.

I had my tarot cards read for fun many years ago. It was shortly after my 1st husband & I seperated. I didn't share anything with the reader. She was spot on on everything. She pegged my current situation & all that she predicted came to pass. I still have her words echoing in my mind from that night-What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Those words got me through many trials in the couple years following my divorce. Wish I could find her again but it was 19 yrs ago.

Ilander-It must be difficult for you to sense things without being able to say anything. I too have had dark feelings about people and can't quite put my finger on it. I follow my intuition alot. I have never had as strong a feeling as you did about that woman. Must be hard to wrap your mind around.

Should I persue getting a reading?

How can it be a dark talent if it's God-given? Didn't Christ know his fate before it happened? "One among you will betray me"? Or maybe I got that wrong, it's been many years since I read the Bible. Don't worry, it's not voodoo, that's the scary stuff, IMHO.

A strong intuition is a good thing, trust your feelings about people. It gets better as you get older, and then people call it wisdom.

Honestly? I think you should stick with palm reading, it's not as easy to get scammed with that. When they put down the tarot cards, they're reading your face, and looking for reactions. Unless you're a good poker player, stick with palm reading.




The Bible has quite a few exhortations to not become subject to practices like fortune telling, not because it is inherently evil, but because we might be more than tempted to rely upon it rather than God. Or, there is the school of religious theory that you can open a pathway for spirits to have an influence on you. And, as we all know, there have been those who have used these practices to exploit, trick, and cheat others.

As a Christian, I say that there is much more to our minds and our universe than we can even fathom.
As a Christian, I don't believe that curiosity about such things is a sin.
 

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iLander|1362366253|3395594 said:
@ gammygam and autumnnovember; you both should be happy that you have these extra bits of perception. It's helpful! Lean into it, trust it, it's just like any muscle, it will get better with use. I think everyone has abilities, I think civilization and society have made us ignore them.

I totally believe this! I remember reading Robert Heinlein when I was really young and realizing that he was absolutely right - that we humans had all sorts of capabilities that we had no idea we had related to a "sixth sense" or an ability to gain information on a different level, like sensing that people are evil. I think you've nailed it, iLander.
 

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chemgirl|1362361515|3395552 said:
I really do think people have different levels of insight. I'm nowhere close to being a psychic, and I definitely don't have the abilities that some of you ladies have, but I have always had a sense for "bad people".

My mom has zero intuition about people. To her everyone is nice, and to quote "God didn't make bad people, but sometimes good people make bad choices." This is what I always heard when I was a kid and told her about "bad people." Bad people are what four-year-old me called the people who made the hairs on my arm stand on end by just walking in to a room. I get this feeling and I know the person hurts people and doesn't care a bit about it.

There were 2 bad people married to my aunts. Both were charismatic, full of kind words, always there to help. I remember telling my mom about them and she wouldn't hear a word of it. Turns out both of them were abusers. One I referred to in my head as the devil. He was the scariest bad person ever. After his divorce, he started stalking the family. He tried to kidnap my cousins a several times. Not because he wanted to be with them (he never bothered to call), but because he didn't want my aunt to have them. The last attempt happened a few years ago. My cousin was 24. The police found duct tape and plastic garbage bags on the front passenger seat of his car. Evil.

Other incidents have been complete strangers. One night I was taking the last bus home from the library and I just got this feeling about a man who walked on. The bus was full and he didn't do anything out of the ordinary. I just held my breath and watched him. He asked the bus driver to let him know when we passed a pizza place, said he was picking up a pizza. The pizza place was nowhere near my apartment so I was terrified when I watched him get off the bus at my stop! He crossed the street so I started walking home. It didn't take me long to realize he was following me on the opposite side of the street. I ended up running in to a coffee shop to get away from him. He stood in the parking lot for half an hour while I drank coffee and chatted with the owner. She was concerned enough that she had her son walk me the rest of the way home.

My little cousin has been the same since she was 3. She is terrified of my aunt's boyfriend (not her mom). Like look of terror, shaking, hiding. He's been in the picture for her whole life so its not a case of her being afraid of new people. He does put me on edge, but not to the same degree. She told her parents that he's "a bad man" and doesn't want him at any family events. My dad told her parents about how I was as a child and how all of the "bad people" turned out to be psychopaths so they're listening to her.

I don't know if its a type of insight, or if its just that these people give off some sort of behavioural cue. I think if I can have these types of feelings, why can't other people have a more intense and detailed version.

I think a lot of children are born with this insight. I think a lot of adults tell them to quiet that insight and children do. Then when they become adults, they've learned to ignore it.

I'm glad you haven't. It saved your life. I hope your little cousin learns to hang on to her gift too. <3
 

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Humans are animals who communicate more through body language than through speech. I think what we call "intuition" or may think is psychic re our impressions of others is really subconscious perception of tiny tells, as they say in poker. Body language experts are trained to look for them.

We regular Joes perceive them without realizing what specifically we see -- mini-gestures lasting a fraction of a second, expressions ditto, that betray the emotion (or lie) behind a facade & are covered up in a flash. It's clear if you read about body language that miniscule changes in posture, loss of eye contact for a nanosecond, etc., give clues about what's going on inside someone who tries to appear differently.

That is wisdom. It's built on experience; the more we have of the latter, the more we get of the former. Trusting your gut reaction can save your life, or spare you a lot of grief. It's instinct, not magic.

Different are psychics, who know specifics about others' lives, futures, etc. I believe what iLander says is true -- whatever medium they use is just a tool that works for each individual. Most true psychics say almost everybody has these abilities but does not know how to be open to them. I don't know how far I go with that -- can't imagine myself looking at a belt buckle & seeing how a crime played out. 8-)

It's an inborn talent, the same as being able to run fast or play the violin well, not to be feared. It may be a burden at times but good can come from it too. Finding the good part is our challenge in all of life, isn't it?

--- Laurie
 

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kgizo|1362359083|3395520 said:
Hospatogi, I used to foster for an animal rescue group. A behavior specialist spoke to our group and said that animals that started life outside where food was likely thrown on the ground for them don't "understand" bowls, and that's why they take food out and put it on the floor to eat. How old was Coco when you got her?
I've also wondered about animal communicators. It seems so far fetched, but not impossible to believe.
Hi kgizo,
I adopted Coco at 8 weeks old. I don't know much about her life before we brought her home but I do know her mother was badly abused. Coco was in a litter of 8 and the rescue had a puppy room where all the pups shared a big bowl of food and water. I wonder if she saw her brothers and sisters do this or maybe it was her way of guarding a portion of her food?
She doesn't have food aggression at all so im not worried but I bought her this cute pink bowl with little paw prints so I'm sad she doesn't like it! Sometimes I see her rolling her big brown eyes at me and I would love to know what she's thinking :)
 

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My youngest son reads my mind all of the time. He's been able to do it since he's been able to speak. For instance, today when I picked him up from school, I asked him what he learned today. In my mind I thought, "that two plus two makes four" in a sing song voice. I no sooner had the thought and he was saying it.

Another time, I was driving and thinking about my mom. Luke was in the back seat. He told me not to worry about grandma. The thing is, I hadn't mentioned her at all that day. Luke was only 4 and wouldn't have the insight to tell me such a thing on a day where grandma hadn't been mentioned.

He does this ALL of the time.
 

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Wow, Housecat, so how do you keep Christmas presents a secret?! :lol:
 

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minousbijoux|1362439439|3396281 said:
Wow, Housecat, so how do you keep Christmas presents a secret?! :lol:
I keep my mind VERY busy during the holidays! I'm not even sure I know who's getting what during that time! Who knows? Grandma might get a lightsaber! :lol:

But honestly, it scares me sometimes. I don't WANT him in my head.
 

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House Cat|1362437382|3396244 said:
My youngest son reads my mind all of the time. He's been able to do it since he's been able to speak. For instance, today when I picked him up from school, I asked him what he learned today. In my mind I thought, "that two plus two makes four" in a sing song voice. I no sooner had the thought and he was saying it.

Another time, I was driving and thinking about my mom. Luke was in the back seat. He told me not to worry about grandma. The thing is, I hadn't mentioned her at all that day. Luke was only 4 and wouldn't have the insight to tell me such a thing on a day where grandma hadn't been mentioned.

He does this ALL of the time.

My MIL complains that my DH would do this to her when he was around that age. He is still a very intuitive person as an adult, but the mind reading stopped as a child. It freaked my MIL out too. Today DH has an uncanny ability to feel people out at first meeting them. Especially if something doesn't feel right.
 

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I have had two readings. Once was about a year and a half ago (Sept 2011). (Now) DH and I were dating and had just been on a trip to his family's beach house. He was a total brat the whole trip, so I stopped at a little roadside psychic on the way home that I had randomly seen on the trip to the house. She told me that I was going to get married the following year at the end of summer, outside. DH and I had actually talked that weekend about getting engaged and he had said that he didn't think that would happen anytime soon. Well, he ended up proposing late January 2012 and we got married in September..all his idea too, so no rushing was made to make her prediction come true. :-o At the end of the reading, she asked me if I wanted to ask her about a specific person, so I asked her about my Grandma. My concern was that she wouldn't see me get married (at that time, I didn't know when that would happen). She told me that Grandma didn't have much time left in her life, but that she would be at the wedding. Well, she wasn't at our wedding in body (she passed late February of 2012), but certainly in spirit. My second reading was a few weeks ago and that guy was a crock. It was fun though (he was a hilarious older gentleman in his 70's), but it seemed like he was trying to hard and nothing was accurate or genuine. Its ok, he was fun! I would LOVE to go to a good one, but can't seem to find a great person.

Ilander, any pointers for me?

I do think certain people feel things and I definitely think little kids tend to have more of a 'touch' to them. My cousin's son was about 3 when my Pappy passed away. Jayden (cousin's son) was the first great grandchild and had a nice little bond with Pappy. They would call each other George for some reason. Well my cousin told us about several occasions where Jayden said he saw George. One time Jayden left his Mom's apartment when she was sleeping and he said that George told him he shouldn't do that to his mommy and he should go back home to her. He was about 5 when he said that George was riding with them in the car. All kinds of crazy stuff. Jayden is about 12 now and doesn't mention it much, so I wonder if he lost that ability or if he still sees George. Hmm...I'm going to have to ask!
 
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