Did some searching but couldn''t find anything about this, so any pointers welcome if it helps confirm what I have seen.
I will start by saying, long time lurker, some time poster but in case this is a load of rubbish I have created a new identity.
One day I may unmask who is the Fish Avenger.
Anyway I have been doing experiments with my kids, the neighbours kids and other family kids. And before we all go off to child services, there were no electricy, water or grapple devices in use anywhere.
Background, not too much, still want to remain anonymous just now in case I am reading stuff into it that isn''t there.
A while ago I remember seeing stuff in the news about fish oil and how they can help protect the heart and stuff, it also mentioned at the time how school kids work improved their concentration. Yup I thought here is the next miracle cure. Move on.
Anyway, the kids (2 boys 8 and 10) were playing up all the time, seemed to have more calls from school, grades werent'' terrible, but I knew they could do better. At home they were getting more and more hyper, not paying attention. All the stuff young boys are want to do, but just that bit more.
School wanted to get them evaluated to see if there was something that could be done. I had seen other kids on ADD and ADHD drugs and just didn''t like the idea. Then the fish oil News Story came back to me. Hmmm before giving them these drugs, lets get down to shops and get some. Also more fruit and vegetables, less fatty foods, less sugar
After a few weeks there was no change, the news said it took only a few weeks Aaaaggghh, maybe they do need something stronger. Thoughts of other kids on these drugs just made me cringe. So onto the internet and did some more searching, was I doing it wrong, was it the wrong dosage, was it a certain type. Anything.
Just google fish oil, all you get is adverts, fish oil that, fish oil this, fish oil impoves kids memory etc etc etc
One article that came up was from the Times. It mentioned that the fish oil used in trials for it''s benefits was EPA oil, seems there are two kinds of oil in fish oil EPA and DHA, this says that only EPA oil was used. It also said that they had scanned the brains and actually watched the brains grow (not there and then, but comparing scans from one month to the next)
Off I went again, this time searching on just EPA fish oil, got more back. A few interesting articles on how it works etc building blocks of brain, if you dont have it - body uses other stuff to make its own inferior oil. Lots of marketing etc.
Anyway thought lets get some EPA only oil, no DHA at all.
This stuff wasn''t exactly cheap so wanted to have something to compare it with so decided to pill 1 kid a day and use the other as a comparrison (they are always doing things together). So each morning and each evening, regular as clock work the kids got their fish oil tablets. The difference being the Eldest got the EPA only fish oil.
Then one morning 3 weeks later, I suddenly realised that for the last couple of days I have not had to be onto the eldest as much as I used to, the youngest had also quietened down, but not as much. When I say quietened down I don''t mean zombied or that, but just seemed to be thinking one step ahead, more thoughtful, more concentration, I hadn''t had to tell him to do something 2 or 3 times, he was acting after the first asking He was still my boy, but more so. Don''t get me wrong, there are still moments, remember he is still a Boy and it''s his job. But at dinner he was actually starting talks instead of being told to do things, he would just do his jobs around the house.
The youngest had also calmed down a bit, but not by much, but learning from his brother he was trying to be more thoughtful (but just missing the mark, hell he is still a boy as well and it is still his job to be so), he still took time to do things, didn''t concentrate and still didn''t listen.
So kept pilling like this for a few more weeks, then the school called, they mentioned eldest was getting on better, was not as disruptive and his work was improving (not there yet, but getting there). The next morning that was it, the youngest was getting the same as his brother. And I watched him like a hawk, to see if i could see it happen. Now I may just be imagining this, or maybe the watcher changed the watchee but I would see him start to do somthing and then just stop, you could almost see the thought of "that would be fun" cross his mind, but then he would change it. I asked him a couple of times and he said yes he thought about doing it but said that he would get in trouble so he didn''t. What!!! he thought he would get in trouble so didn''t do it. I just sat there and laughed and "just thought" to myself No way, not you, you just act.
A few weeks more and back to school, this time the youngest one is getting an improving report from the teacher, whilst the eldest is coming on in leaps and bounds.
We had also introduced more positive reinforcement at home as well as better action plans with the kids that gave a few more acceptable boundries, so maybe this was part of it but, we had done things like that in the past, the diffrernece with the fish oil was amazing. And best of all no drugs
I wentt public with this to my sister in law when she mentioned that mine had calmed down a bit (still boys, that''s the most important bit, they were still boys but better at it). She started pilling her daughter as well. Her daughter had been timid at school and scared to take part in public events, talk on stage. 2 months later she is on stage reading poetry
Next door also mentioned that my kids seem to be happier, so in on the secret she came as well. She said that she was already giving her kids fishoil, so i showed her the webpages about the Ethyl EPA only. Made a bet with her, I wil give her a spare bottle, a months supply and see what she thinks.
She said she didn''t notice a massive improvement, but some, so she is now using it regularly and has said since that there is more of an improvment now
God I soound like some sort of advert for fish oil, i am just telling you things, I have seen. Even re-reading it makes me cringe, am I seeing real diffrernces or am I just attributing things to this.
There are quiet a few families in the street now using this and all are commenting that the street seems calmer, the kids seem more relaxed, play much better. Kids look like they are having fun, where before they were just lurking for somthing to do.
So, with sly look to hubby (yes he knows what he is getting), he has now been taking it 4 times a day for the last 2 months, and I can honoustly say that his mood has improved, he has a quiet stressful job having to drive around the country all day, but even he is less stressed and says he is feeling better (he has started to exercise as well)
I''ll leave it to you to read the marketing hype etc but, this site is about little (and large) rocks but I have noticed my two gems blossom (3 including him indoors). I have seen other kids get more confident. Is this just me, or has anyone else got anything going on at home.
There are some where the parents say it isn''t working (although one kid told my eldest that she spits it out afterwards) but that may just be them, as a whole I would say that there is an improvmenet
Please let me know, and yes I am also a victim of my meddling, I am now a fish popper (or fish pooper as the youngest says)
I will start by saying, long time lurker, some time poster but in case this is a load of rubbish I have created a new identity.
One day I may unmask who is the Fish Avenger.
Anyway I have been doing experiments with my kids, the neighbours kids and other family kids. And before we all go off to child services, there were no electricy, water or grapple devices in use anywhere.
Background, not too much, still want to remain anonymous just now in case I am reading stuff into it that isn''t there.
A while ago I remember seeing stuff in the news about fish oil and how they can help protect the heart and stuff, it also mentioned at the time how school kids work improved their concentration. Yup I thought here is the next miracle cure. Move on.
Anyway, the kids (2 boys 8 and 10) were playing up all the time, seemed to have more calls from school, grades werent'' terrible, but I knew they could do better. At home they were getting more and more hyper, not paying attention. All the stuff young boys are want to do, but just that bit more.
School wanted to get them evaluated to see if there was something that could be done. I had seen other kids on ADD and ADHD drugs and just didn''t like the idea. Then the fish oil News Story came back to me. Hmmm before giving them these drugs, lets get down to shops and get some. Also more fruit and vegetables, less fatty foods, less sugar
After a few weeks there was no change, the news said it took only a few weeks Aaaaggghh, maybe they do need something stronger. Thoughts of other kids on these drugs just made me cringe. So onto the internet and did some more searching, was I doing it wrong, was it the wrong dosage, was it a certain type. Anything.
Just google fish oil, all you get is adverts, fish oil that, fish oil this, fish oil impoves kids memory etc etc etc
One article that came up was from the Times. It mentioned that the fish oil used in trials for it''s benefits was EPA oil, seems there are two kinds of oil in fish oil EPA and DHA, this says that only EPA oil was used. It also said that they had scanned the brains and actually watched the brains grow (not there and then, but comparing scans from one month to the next)
Off I went again, this time searching on just EPA fish oil, got more back. A few interesting articles on how it works etc building blocks of brain, if you dont have it - body uses other stuff to make its own inferior oil. Lots of marketing etc.
Anyway thought lets get some EPA only oil, no DHA at all.
This stuff wasn''t exactly cheap so wanted to have something to compare it with so decided to pill 1 kid a day and use the other as a comparrison (they are always doing things together). So each morning and each evening, regular as clock work the kids got their fish oil tablets. The difference being the Eldest got the EPA only fish oil.
Then one morning 3 weeks later, I suddenly realised that for the last couple of days I have not had to be onto the eldest as much as I used to, the youngest had also quietened down, but not as much. When I say quietened down I don''t mean zombied or that, but just seemed to be thinking one step ahead, more thoughtful, more concentration, I hadn''t had to tell him to do something 2 or 3 times, he was acting after the first asking He was still my boy, but more so. Don''t get me wrong, there are still moments, remember he is still a Boy and it''s his job. But at dinner he was actually starting talks instead of being told to do things, he would just do his jobs around the house.
The youngest had also calmed down a bit, but not by much, but learning from his brother he was trying to be more thoughtful (but just missing the mark, hell he is still a boy as well and it is still his job to be so), he still took time to do things, didn''t concentrate and still didn''t listen.
So kept pilling like this for a few more weeks, then the school called, they mentioned eldest was getting on better, was not as disruptive and his work was improving (not there yet, but getting there). The next morning that was it, the youngest was getting the same as his brother. And I watched him like a hawk, to see if i could see it happen. Now I may just be imagining this, or maybe the watcher changed the watchee but I would see him start to do somthing and then just stop, you could almost see the thought of "that would be fun" cross his mind, but then he would change it. I asked him a couple of times and he said yes he thought about doing it but said that he would get in trouble so he didn''t. What!!! he thought he would get in trouble so didn''t do it. I just sat there and laughed and "just thought" to myself No way, not you, you just act.
A few weeks more and back to school, this time the youngest one is getting an improving report from the teacher, whilst the eldest is coming on in leaps and bounds.
We had also introduced more positive reinforcement at home as well as better action plans with the kids that gave a few more acceptable boundries, so maybe this was part of it but, we had done things like that in the past, the diffrernece with the fish oil was amazing. And best of all no drugs
I wentt public with this to my sister in law when she mentioned that mine had calmed down a bit (still boys, that''s the most important bit, they were still boys but better at it). She started pilling her daughter as well. Her daughter had been timid at school and scared to take part in public events, talk on stage. 2 months later she is on stage reading poetry
Next door also mentioned that my kids seem to be happier, so in on the secret she came as well. She said that she was already giving her kids fishoil, so i showed her the webpages about the Ethyl EPA only. Made a bet with her, I wil give her a spare bottle, a months supply and see what she thinks.
She said she didn''t notice a massive improvement, but some, so she is now using it regularly and has said since that there is more of an improvment now
God I soound like some sort of advert for fish oil, i am just telling you things, I have seen. Even re-reading it makes me cringe, am I seeing real diffrernces or am I just attributing things to this.
There are quiet a few families in the street now using this and all are commenting that the street seems calmer, the kids seem more relaxed, play much better. Kids look like they are having fun, where before they were just lurking for somthing to do.
So, with sly look to hubby (yes he knows what he is getting), he has now been taking it 4 times a day for the last 2 months, and I can honoustly say that his mood has improved, he has a quiet stressful job having to drive around the country all day, but even he is less stressed and says he is feeling better (he has started to exercise as well)
I''ll leave it to you to read the marketing hype etc but, this site is about little (and large) rocks but I have noticed my two gems blossom (3 including him indoors). I have seen other kids get more confident. Is this just me, or has anyone else got anything going on at home.
There are some where the parents say it isn''t working (although one kid told my eldest that she spits it out afterwards) but that may just be them, as a whole I would say that there is an improvmenet
Please let me know, and yes I am also a victim of my meddling, I am now a fish popper (or fish pooper as the youngest says)
, his parents have, with Dr approval, given him fish oil. It was slower with this kid, it's been aobut 4 months now, but his mother is looking better (maybe she is a fish popper now as well), the kids tantrums have reduced, still happen but not as bad or as often. I was speaking to her the other day and she was saying to her doctor about maybe reducing his medication if this improvment continues, not now, but she sees a light at the end of the tunnel: As I say to all the mothers, don't self diagnose, your kids health is foremost, don't play with their health, I am no doctor, i have no medical training
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