Logan Sapphire
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Laila619|1358270547|3356091 said:Everyone,
Your posts are really making me smile, nod my head in agreement, and feel much better. You all said such valid points and I feel like you really get it.
MC|1358267620|3356035 said:Not only did your husband make the effort to buy you a ring, he spent $6K, which, IMO is a nice generous amount to have spent. Yeah, so he only went to Jareds and bought the ring w/out researching, BUT, keep in mind, others don't even have husbands that do that much.
You do sound kinda pissed off in your post...maybe there is more going on that isn't being disclosed. Just thought I'd mention that concern... is everything else okay in your relationship?
MC, I do want to address this because I think you are right. There is more going on behind my resentment. My DH is an incredibly kind and loving husband and father, but he was very clueless when we were dating about the fact that I wanted him to propose. He literally will tell you that he had no idea I wanted that, and that it never even crossed his mind that maybe it was time to propose.I basically got fed up and told him I would be moving on, and THAT'S when he ran out to Jared that same evening, bought the crappy stone and setting that I HATED, and proposed literally the next day. So I wonder if my distaste for the diamond is partly because of the feelings surrounding our engagement and all of my frustration with his complacent personality. He is not a "make things happen" kind of guy. I think if I hadn't said I would be moving on, we'd probably still be just dating even today, instead of married with two kids. I also feel like he'll research things that are important to HIM, but it never occurred to him to research diamonds or rings. Man I seem to have a lot of anger about this for some reason. I feel like he cheated me out of a happy engagement...who wants your engagement story to be "Well I threatened to dump him and that's when he ran out, bought a junk bag ring, and proposed"? Once I found PS, I was so envious of all the gals whose boyfriends were doing so much research and committing so much energy and time into finding just the right ring for their girlfriend. It's like, why didn't my guy care enough to do that for me?
lknvrb4|1358246788|3355880 said:Your story sounds so much like mine. I helped DH pick out my first ering and we bought it at Fred Meyer. They showed me a couple diamonds that were 1ct. and both had inclusions but I took the round one anyway because I really knew nothing about diamonds. It was full of sparkle but once I found PS, I realized what a piece of crap I had. I tried different setting like you have and was still not happy either, luckily I found my pear at an amazing price. We sold my ring on craigslist thankfully to a very nice couple. I would try that route and see if you get any takers, you will lose some money but if your willing it can be done. good luck
jazzoboe|1358251205|3355891 said:I absolutely know how you feel.
My DH, who is a wonderful man, don't get me wrong, is really stubborn on some things. When we got engaged, he wanted my input as far as style, but he definitely insisted on picking my ering on his own. Now granted, he did a little research, he looked at quite a few diamonds in person, and he definitely negotiated to get a decent price, but I know we could have done better with a PS vendor. In the end, he picked a nice stone for me. It has a couple of tiny inclusions which bug me some days, but I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who notices them, and apart from that I think the stone is well cut. He had it set in a plain tiffany-style setting which I don't love, but he told me he wouldn't mind if I reset it sometime. Still hasn't happened, though.
Now my wedding band is another story. By the time we were picking out our bands I was well into the world of PS, I knew what I wanted (a shared prong eternity) and I knew there were a few vendors where I could get a nice quality one within our budget. But. DH was completely opposed to shopping online, regardless of all the shining testimonials here. He simply said he would not trust any online vendors, and we definitely couldn't afford to take a trip just to see some of these places in person (those that have B&M showrooms). So I was stuck with very limited options in the jewelry stores near us, and the few that had what I really wanted were charging $$$ which we could not afford. I ended up finding a pretty, thin, half-eternity at the same store where he bought my ering, and decided to go with it. Ugh... it's been a bit of a nightmare. Firstly, I have tiny fingers (size 3.25) and when we first ordered it they tried to size down a stock ring (!!!). When I picked it up, it wasn't even round! We were pissed, took it back and demanded they had a new one made to order at no cost to us. They did. It was better. But, the workmanship is still crap. The prongs are all uneven, the diamonds aren't set evenly, and they are awful quality diamonds (and unmatched bad quality at that). We bought the three-year "service plan" and in the past two years I have already sent it in to have prongs tightened twice and, just weeks after having it inspected and being told it was fine, lost a diamond, so I had to have that replaced. Now, our service plan will run out this fall, and I just know the thing is going to fall apart within a year after that, so my only saving grace here might be that we simply won't be able to fix it and I will have to get a whole new ring.
The real problem here is that a. I feel bad telling my husband that the ring we spent a fair amount of money on is absolute garbage and b. he is adamantly against upgrades. Like, ever. He pretty much told me "these are the only rings I will buy you because they have this sentimental value, so I don't ever want to get anything else." and we've talked about it before. I don't know... I think he might still come around and surprise me, especially when he realizes that my current rings are not going to hold up for long, but I worry about whether he will let me get something of the quality I know our money should get when that time comes. It's frustrating.
Hope you can find a solution you're happy with!
Loves Vintage|1358252629|3355900 said:Hey Laila!
Here's what I would do. Sell it. On eBay. Now.
I think I recall in an earlier post (quite a while back), you and your DH did not want to sell the ring because of its sentimental value. It seems that sentimentality has now shifted to some negative feelings. So, I would seriously, just sell it, get what you can and be done with that ring. I think it will be very cathartic for you!! And, whatever money you make, whatever fraction is winds up being of the original cost, well, it is what it is, take it, save it, spend it, whatever. It truly is just money!!
I agree with Hera - I do not think PS is representative of what the typical guy would do when purchasing a ring. That's why stores like Jared's exist and THRIVE. So, I do not think you should hold your DH to the PS standard!!! Honestly, it makes me a little sad that the ring makes you feel badly about your DH. Your DH is a total rockstar dad and husband, which I only know from what you've posted about him here!! So get rid of that ring!!
I will also share that I am sure we overpaid for my ring (purchased from local estate jeweler), though prices seemed comparable at the time to OWD. And there are days I want a big ol' eBay OEC. And, equally there are days that I love my ring, so I just let it pass honestly.
People feel differently about money. The fact that we may have overpaid is water on the bridge for me. Money comes and money goes. As long as this decision has not caused you any real financial hardship, just let it go. And, let the ring go too. I promise, you'll feel better once it's gone!! And, I'm sure some non-PS lady out there will be thrilled with it!
Do you wear your three stone ring? Have you talked to him about all of this? What does he say?
Chrono|1358255336|3355909 said:Laila,
I take it you've seen superideals in person as you've been a PSer forever, right? My understanding is that Leo's aren't that horribly cut. They are a branded diamond and have better cut than other mall store diamonds. It's not super duper ideal but if DH had to buy from a B&M, I'd say he didn't do too badly. He probably selected a round because it's an easy shape to set and pleases just about 95% of all women.
Very few people know about PS, cut quality and the like. I'd say most men do not do any research unless they happen to be of a certain personality type. Less so when it comes to diamonds and jewellery. Give them cars or a sound system and they'll be different though.![]()
He spent a lot of money to get what he thought was best for you. Have you discussed this with him? Have you considered his point of view? You probably don't like my post but that's my 2 cents anyway.
Logan Sapphire|1358258301|3355933 said:Sorry Laila! I understand too, since I became not-too-happy with my ering stone as well. We didn't know much about diamonds, though I'd done a little bit of research and what I'd found pushed me towards a 60-60 type of stone. Shortly after the ering was purchased, I found PS and broached the subject of trading it in for a better cut stone. DH wasn't having it though, as he was very wary of internet purchases at the time. I actually wore the stone happily for awhile, but I'm ashamed to say that I was unhappy with the size (.78ct), even though my husband had purchased it while in some major debt. I ended up making it into its 3 stone setting and I have to say, I'm still not 100% thrilled with it, as the original center stone is nowhere near ideal, while my sidestones are. I live with it though b/c it's a lot of money to fix otherwise and I can't, in good conscience, spend money on jewelry while we have two young kids to save for.
Why don't you care for 3 stones and halos? Is it b/c the center (heh, get is?) of the problem is your stone? Do you feel like side stones or halos would never gussy it up enough for you to see past your unhappiness?
What if you did put it away for awhile and just wear a plain band? Or save it for one of your kids? Or what about a RHR? Could you get over your feelings if you let it step aside as your ering and move to your other hand? That way, you'd still have it for sentimentality, but let it take a back seat to something else?
Laila619|1358270547|3356091 said:Everyone,
Your posts are really making me smile, nod my head in agreement, and feel much better. You all said such valid points and I feel like you really get it.
MC|1358267620|3356035 said:Not only did your husband make the effort to buy you a ring, he spent $6K, which, IMO is a nice generous amount to have spent. Yeah, so he only went to Jareds and bought the ring w/out researching, BUT, keep in mind, others don't even have husbands that do that much.
You do sound kinda pissed off in your post...maybe there is more going on that isn't being disclosed. Just thought I'd mention that concern... is everything else okay in your relationship?
MC, I do want to address this because I think you are right. There is more going on behind my resentment. My DH is an incredibly kind and loving husband and father, but he was very clueless when we were dating about the fact that I wanted him to propose. He literally will tell you that he had no idea I wanted that, and that it never even crossed his mind that maybe it was time to propose.I basically got fed up and told him I would be moving on, and THAT'S when he ran out to Jared that same evening, bought the crappy stone and setting that I HATED, and proposed literally the next day. So I wonder if my distaste for the diamond is partly because of the feelings surrounding our engagement and all of my frustration with his complacent personality. He is not a "make things happen" kind of guy. I think if I hadn't said I would be moving on, we'd probably still be just dating even today, instead of married with two kids. I also feel like he'll research things that are important to HIM, but it never occurred to him to research diamonds or rings. Man I seem to have a lot of anger about this for some reason. I feel like he cheated me out of a happy engagement...who wants your engagement story to be "Well I threatened to dump him and that's when he ran out, bought a junk bag ring, and proposed"? Once I found PS, I was so envious of all the gals whose boyfriends were doing so much research and committing so much energy and time into finding just the right ring for their girlfriend. It's like, why didn't my guy care enough to do that for me?
Maisie|1358261443|3355970 said:Have you considered something other than a diamond? Maybe a Moissanite (sorry if I am not allowed to say this) or a coloured stone?
Cluless|1358281955|3356299 said:Oh laila I'm sorry you feel that way but You know I see what you wrote here differently "Well I threatened to dump him and that's when he ran out, bought a junk bag ring, and proposed"?
I see it as you threatened to dump him he ran out and got you the sparkiest best ring that he could porpose with because you were worth it and he wanted to spend the rest of his life with you and didn't want to lose you. Now that's romantic and please don't stay angry at the poor guy forever. Hugs to you and yes I know exaclty how you feel so I'm not trying to make lite of your sittuation.xo
Elisateach|1358297017|3356448 said:then i saw their rings, all at least 3 cts and up!! and one of the women very sweetly said, yes this is what yours can grow up to be in 25 or so years!