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Feedback Request: Round 2.24 ct D VS2 EX EX EX None Diamond

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Prometheus Ape

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The stone technically falls outside the ideal 34-35 crown, but I've read that a 35.5 crown with a 40.6 pavilion can create a fiery balanced stone (while sacrificing some brightness).

Seeking Opinions:​

  1. Fiery Stones: What are your thoughts on stones that skew fiery?
  2. Eye Clean: Do you think this particular diamond would be eye clean?
  3. Other factors?
My budget is $30k for context.

Item Details:​

Loupe360

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www.stonealgo.com

Price and quality scores for GIA Number 2487683800

View the fair price estimate, Cut Score® and price history for GIA Certified Diamond 2487683800. Everything you need to know to buy this diamond.
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  • GIA: 2487683800
  • Shape: Round
  • Size: 2.24 ct
  • Color: D
  • Clarity: VS2
  • Cut: Excellent
  • Polish: Excellent
  • Symmetry: Excellent
  • Fluorescence: None
  • Measurements: 8.35 - 8.37 x 5.17 mm
  • Ratio: 1.00
  • Depth: 5.17%
  • Table: 57%
  • Crown Angle: 35.5°
  • Crown Height: 15.5%
  • Pavilion Angle: 40.6°
  • Pavilion Depth: 43%
  • Girdle: 3.50
  • Key to Symbols: Crystal
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The cut precision looks quite good, though not super ideal cut level. My guess is it's eye-clean. I personally prefer a slightly more balanced stone, but the differences would not be super noticeable unless you were looking for them.
 
Kim N said:
The cut precision looks quite good, though not super ideal cut level. My guess is it's eye-clean. I personally prefer a slightly more balanced stone, but the differences would not be super noticeable unless you were looking for them.
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Kim, thank you for your insight!

In your opinion, would it be worth going down to a lower color grade to bridge the gap to a super ideal?

From what I could tell, this would equate to around a H-G all else equal. Thanks again for your help!
 
Prometheus Ape said:
Kim, thank you for your insight!

In your opinion, would it be worth going down to a lower color grade to bridge the gap to a super ideal?

From what I could tell, this would equate to around a H-G all else equal. Thanks again for your help!
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Personally yes, because to me cut is #1 and G/H is white to my eyes
 
lovedogs said:
Or this if you aren't OK with SI1

Diamond | 2.28 ct H VS1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond GIA Certified | 4457024

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.28 carat H color VS1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the Gemological Institute of America (GIA). | 4457024
www.whiteflash.com
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These both look like good options, thank you!

Out of curiosity, does Whiteflash buy diamonds and recut them?

It looks like this second one is partially tied to an older GIA report (same GIA number but 2021 certificate date on StoneAlgo vs. 2023 certificate date on Whiteflash / GIA) with slightly different proportions but the same certificate number.

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Prometheus Ape said:
These both look like good options, thank you!

Out of curiosity, does Whiteflash buy diamonds and recut them?

It looks like this second one is partially tied to an older GIA report (same GIA number but 2021 certificate date on StoneAlgo vs. 2023 certificate date on Whiteflash / GIA) with slightly different proportions but the same certificate number.

www.stonealgo.com

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Get a fair price and quality check for any GIA or IGI Certified diamond. Our custom analysis will give you the confidence to make your purchase.
www.stonealgo.com www.stonealgo.com
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I don't think WF does recuts, but I honestly can't be sure. I'm trying to tag WF's owner here but @ sign isn't working for me

@Texas Leaguer
 
Prometheus Ape said:
These both look like good options, thank you!

Out of curiosity, does Whiteflash buy diamonds and recut them?

It looks like this second one is partially tied to an older GIA report (same GIA number but 2021 certificate date on StoneAlgo vs. 2023 certificate date on Whiteflash / GIA) with slightly different proportions but the same certificate number.

www.stonealgo.com

Diamond Price & Quality Check

Get a fair price and quality check for any GIA or IGI Certified diamond. Our custom analysis will give you the confidence to make your purchase.
www.stonealgo.com www.stonealgo.com
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Looks like stonealgo had the wrong main pics of the stone, but the link to WF shows the same stone
 
lovedogs said:
I don't think WF does recuts, but I honestly can't be sure. I'm trying to tag WF's owner here but @ sign isn't working for me

@Texas Leaguer
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Hi @lovedogs and @MissGotRocks - It looks like the OP may have gone with the 2.4 G si1 diamond as it is now sold.
I confirmed with WF today and the H VS1 2.28 listed above has been recut, it was a 2.38. I am considering this diamond. Can you please check the proportions of this diamond? Do you see any other diamonds that would be a better pick? I would love to have a 2.5ct but the few that they have are AGS I's which I feel would have too much tint for me. I was hoping to keep my stone budget under $30k.

@DejaWiz @Bonfire @LLJsmom @diamondseeker2006

How important is Star% ?

Thank you for your help.
 
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I don’t see a 2.28 H VS1 listed in Whiteflash. Can you provide a link to it? If you have it in reserve, the link doesn’t show up in their listing.
I do see this 2.52 H VS2. Did you look at this diamond? Wire price would only be 3k more than you were hoping to spend.

Diamond | 2.52 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond GIA Certified | 4686468

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.52 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the Gemological Institute of America (GIA). | 4686468
www.whiteflash.com
 
Ditto @MissGotRocks ...Beautiful images (Idealscope/Aset/H&A), beautiful stone!
 
MissGotRocks said:
I don’t see a 2.28 H VS1 listed in Whiteflash. Can you provide a link to it? If you have it in reserve, the link doesn’t show up in their listing.
I do see this 2.52 H VS2. Did you look at this diamond? Wire price would only be 3k more than you were hoping to spend.

Diamond | 2.52 ct H VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond GIA Certified | 4686468

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.52 carat H color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the Gemological Institute of America (GIA). | 4686468
www.whiteflash.com
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Okay, so now you have me thinking about this 2.52. Oh boy! Do I need to be concerned about the inclusions on the edge?

I also see this 2.27 G. (big price jump from the H) There is just something about the sparkle video view. It looks amazing! I see it has a much lower depth and the Lower Girdle % is 80. Is that the difference?

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 2.27 ct G VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond GIA Certified | 4686464

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.27 carat G color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the Gemological Institute of America (GIA). | 4686464
www.whiteflash.com

I also see this 2.25 I HCA 1.4, StoneAglo 9.
www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 2.25 ct I VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond GIA Certified | 4686462

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.25 carat I color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the Gemological Institute of America (GIA). | 4686462
www.whiteflash.com

Do you see a huge difference in the cuts of these diamonds?
 
I would ask Whiteflash to do a side by side video of all three diamonds. That way you can see their sparkle and color for yourself. Also ask them about the inclusions on the 2.52. I did think though that you were a bit apprehensive about an I color?
 
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