Federal court rules autism not caused by vaccine

[kenny]

I hope this puts this to bed and all parents will get their children vaccinated against horrible diseases.

The cause of autism remains a mystery.
We are all surrounded by so many unnatural substances in modern life.
Autism could be caused by a zillion things, fire retardant in seat belts, something in plastics, or synthetic carpeting, TV exposure, electro magnetic radiation, the list is endless.
It could even be a natural product we are increasingly exposed to; lots of natural things are hazardous too like some plants and animal venom.

small snip:

More than 5,300 parents had filed claims with the vaccines court, a branch of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, seeking damages because they believed their children had developed autism as a result of vaccinations. And they reacted bitterly to Friday's ruling.

"Find me another industry where the U.S. government defends their product in court and funds the science that exonerates them," said J.B. Handley, a founder of Generation Rescue in Sherman Oaks and father of a child with autism. "The average citizen has no hope."

Link

 

[jewelz617]

So does this disprove the theory that it''s not individual vaccines causing autism, but giving children TOO MANY at once?

I had my daughter''s vaccinations spaced out on an alternate schedule because of this. She still gets vaccinated, but not 4 shots at once.

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 3/13/2010 12:51:16 PM
Author: PinkAsscher678
So does this disprove the theory that it's not individual vaccines causing autism, but giving children TOO MANY at once?


I had my daughter's vaccinations spaced out on an alternate schedule because of this. She still gets vaccinated, but not 4 shots at once.

I think you are misunderstanding...this is saying that they could find NO EVIDENCE that vaccines cause autism. Period.

While some parents feel safer spacing them out, there is no evidence that shows that it does anything except allow a parent with a child who has reacted before to vaccines to know which one the child may be allergic to. But this is rare.

 

[jewelz617]

Date: 3/13/2010 12:53:23 PM
Author: neatfreak

Date: 3/13/2010 12:51:16 PM

Author: PinkAsscher678

So does this disprove the theory that it''s not individual vaccines causing autism, but giving children TOO MANY at once?



I had my daughter''s vaccinations spaced out on an alternate schedule because of this. She still gets vaccinated, but not 4 shots at once.

I think you are misunderstanding...this is saying that they could find NO EVIDENCE that vaccines cause autism. Period.


While some parents feel safer spacing them out, there is no evidence that shows that it does anything except allow a parent with a child who has reacted before to vaccines to know which one the child may be allergic to. But this is rare.

Gotcha!

 

[ksinger]

Date: 3/13/2010 12:58:07 PM
Author: PinkAsscher678

Date: 3/13/2010 12:53:23 PM
Author: neatfreak

Date: 3/13/2010 12:51:16 PM

Author: PinkAsscher678

So does this disprove the theory that it''s not individual vaccines causing autism, but giving children TOO MANY at once?



I had my daughter''s vaccinations spaced out on an alternate schedule because of this. She still gets vaccinated, but not 4 shots at once.

I think you are misunderstanding...this is saying that they could find NO EVIDENCE that vaccines cause autism. Period.


While some parents feel safer spacing them out, there is no evidence that shows that it does anything except allow a parent with a child who has reacted before to vaccines to know which one the child may be allergic to. But this is rare.

Gotcha!

Huh..?

 

[jewelz617]

Gotcha= "Thank you, I understand now that you have explained this more clearly."

 

[ksinger]

Date: 3/13/2010 1:20:05 PM
Author: PinkAsscher678
Gotcha= "Thank you, I understand now that you have explained this more clearly."

Oh...OK. I was truly confused. I was like, Gotcha!? As in ha ha! caught you!!? Brain clearly not functioning at peak this morning/afternoon.

 

[Arkteia]

Yes...Everyone forgot how life was before the vaccines. Smallpox... it has been eradicated from the face of the Earth, because of vaccination. (That was the first vaccine ever made). Measles may cause a very serious and evnetually lethal complication - subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (luckily rare), so if you throw in risk of not vaccinating the child and exposing him/her to a high risk of measles with the risk of autism from vaccination (Having all the medical knowledge of what measles can really be) I am sure no one will leave his/her child unvaccinated.

And autism/Aspergers - it may be just the way evolution goes. We always saw "strange", "atypical" people, just did not have a name to the syndrome. Now we have, so it seems the be on the rise.

On the other hand, many of these people are amazingly capable to technical sciences and math. Or programming, which was not required before computers were invented. So if you imagine the destiny of a very strange guy a generation ago...he''ll mosly likely will stay single, have hard time getting a job ("he doesn''t look into my eyes...who knows what he''s thinking about..."). I saw such guys who were dropped by the army shortly after recruitment for "weird affect" (honestly!), never got a job, lived with their parents and on top of it had diagnosis of schizophrenia because no one knew what the heck was wrong with them!

Nowadays these guys could prestigious, high-paid jobs, and their marriage potential would be higher. Many of them would marry inside their own company ("Geeks marry geeks", as our pediatrician says)...hence the risk of autism in their posterity could be really high.

PA, the child''s risk for autism is not determined by a vaccine - one just has to look at the family history to understand whether it is high or low.

 

[kenny]

I normally deeply defend every parent's right to make choices about their child.
I detest government intervention in family matters, but this is a public health issue.

Not vaccinating your kid increases his or her chances of getting disease X which puts all the other school kids at risk.

Your choices putting MY kid at risk is not cool.

 

[Callisto]

This is good to hear, but unfortunately the damage of scaring parents about vaccines seems to have already been done. Which is so crazy when you look and see that this whole scare was started from a study that has since been proven to be terribly conducted and incredibly erroneous. These parents don''t believe the results from multiple reputable labs across the world and instead use a ridiculous clinical trial to back themselves up.

Unfortunately it will probably take a bunch of kids dying from preventable disease to scare parents back to using vaccines...

 

[Imdanny]

Date: 3/13/2010 1:36:56 PM
Author: kenny
I normally deeply defend every parent''s right to make choices about their child.

I detest government intervention in family matters, but this is a public health issue.


Not vaccinating your kid increases his or her chances of getting disease X which puts all the other school kids at risk.


Your choices putting MY kid at risk is not cool.

But you don''t have kids, Kenny.

I don''t believe anything a federal court says unless I can understand the issues involved and consider the ruling myself. I''m not saying they''re right or wrong about this (I don''t know) but I won''t take their word because the federal judiciary is thoroughly corrupt.

 

[jewelz617]

Date: 3/13/2010 10:57:28 PM
Author: Imdanny

Date: 3/13/2010 1:36:56 PM

Author: kenny

I normally deeply defend every parent''s right to make choices about their child.


I detest government intervention in family matters, but this is a public health issue.



Not vaccinating your kid increases his or her chances of getting disease X which puts all the other school kids at risk.



Your choices putting MY kid at risk is not cool.

But you don''t have kids, Kenny.

I don''t believe anything a federal court says unless I can understand the issues involved and consider the ruling myself. I''m not saying they''re right or wrong about this (I don''t know) but I won''t take their word because the federal judiciary is thoroughly corrupt.

I somewhat agree. I''m extremely wary of what is actually in vaccines, even if this non relation to autism is correct. My daughter still gets them, but it''s something to be cautious about.

 

[starshine]

Date: 3/13/2010 10:57:28 PM
Author: Imdanny

Date: 3/13/2010 1:36:56 PM

Author: kenny

I normally deeply defend every parent''s right to make choices about their child.


I detest government intervention in family matters, but this is a public health issue.



Not vaccinating your kid increases his or her chances of getting disease X which puts all the other school kids at risk.



Your choices putting MY kid at risk is not cool.

But you don''t have kids, Kenny.

...and YOUR hypothetical kids, Kenny, would be vaccinated against disease X, right? So no problemo!

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 3/13/2010 1:45:02 PM
Author: Callisto
This is good to hear, but unfortunately the damage of scaring parents about vaccines seems to have already been done. Which is so crazy when you look and see that this whole scare was started from a study that has since been proven to be terribly conducted and incredibly erroneous. These parents don''t believe the results from multiple reputable labs across the world and instead use a ridiculous clinical trial to back themselves up.

Unfortunately it will probably take a bunch of kids dying from preventable disease to scare parents back to using vaccines...

Ditto. A world where parents take medical advice from Jenny McCarthy instead of reputable research and actual doctors is a scary world indeed.

 

[Circe]

Date: 3/13/2010 10:57:28 PM
Author: Imdanny

Date: 3/13/2010 1:36:56 PM

Author: kenny

I normally deeply defend every parent''s right to make choices about their child.


I detest government intervention in family matters, but this is a public health issue.



Not vaccinating your kid increases his or her chances of getting disease X which puts all the other school kids at risk.



Your choices putting MY kid at risk is not cool.

But you don''t have kids, Kenny.

I don''t believe anything a federal court says unless I can understand the issues involved and consider the ruling myself. I''m not saying they''re right or wrong about this (I don''t know) but I won''t take their word because the federal judiciary is thoroughly corrupt.

Oy. Danny, I could be misunderstanding, but are you saying that unless things are lowest common denominator, no one should trust the people who have the time and training to demonstrate their expertise to the rest of us? I''m hoping I''m getting this wrong somehow, because, in a nutshell, I think that''s the crux of America''s ongoing problem with anti-intellectualism. It guarantees that complex issues are reduced to sound-bytes and the "trustworthiness" of the source (see also, Glenn Beck, Bill O''Reilly, and any other snake-oil salesman blackening the name of P.T. Barnum attitude-wise). Dogs and children love them!

Autism is *not* linked to vaccination. Study after study after study has amply demonstrated this (in contrast to, you know, that one dishonest, biased, and paid-for thing that was bought by The Voice of the People, Jenny McCarthy, the woman whom I still best remember for her ability to touch her own chin with her tongue). Epidemics? Those *are* linked to the absence of vaccination. We''re not talking about outrageous claims here ....

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 3/13/2010 11:28:00 PM
Author: starshine

Date: 3/13/2010 10:57:28 PM

Author: Imdanny

Date: 3/13/2010 1:36:56 PM

Author: kenny

I normally deeply defend every parent''s right to make choices about their child.

I detest government intervention in family matters, but this is a public health issue.

Not vaccinating your kid increases his or her chances of getting disease X which puts all the other school kids at risk.

Your choices putting MY kid at risk is not cool.

But you don''t have kids, Kenny.

...and YOUR hypothetical kids, Kenny, would be vaccinated against disease X, right? So no problemo!

His hypothetical kids may not be able to be vaccinated if they are too young for certain vaccinations or immunocompromised. Same goes for the elderly and other immunocompromised adults.

It would be great if only the unvaccinated kids got seriously ill from their parents'' ignorant choices, but sadly that''s not the case.

 

[iheartscience]

DITTO CIRCE. Attitudes like that are everything that is wrong with America. Hooray for another Dark Ages!

 

[jewelz617]

Date: 3/13/2010 11:31:20 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 3/13/2010 1:45:02 PM

Author: Callisto

This is good to hear, but unfortunately the damage of scaring parents about vaccines seems to have already been done. Which is so crazy when you look and see that this whole scare was started from a study that has since been proven to be terribly conducted and incredibly erroneous. These parents don''t believe the results from multiple reputable labs across the world and instead use a ridiculous clinical trial to back themselves up.


Unfortunately it will probably take a bunch of kids dying from preventable disease to scare parents back to using vaccines...

Ditto. A world where parents take medical advice from Jenny McCarthy instead of reputable research and actual doctors is a scary world indeed.

And what is Jenny McCarthy''s medical advice?

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 3/13/2010 11:38:15 PM
Author: PinkAsscher678

Date: 3/13/2010 11:31:20 PM

Author: thing2of2

Date: 3/13/2010 1:45:02 PM

Author: Callisto

This is good to hear, but unfortunately the damage of scaring parents about vaccines seems to have already been done. Which is so crazy when you look and see that this whole scare was started from a study that has since been proven to be terribly conducted and incredibly erroneous. These parents don''t believe the results from multiple reputable labs across the world and instead use a ridiculous clinical trial to back themselves up.

Unfortunately it will probably take a bunch of kids dying from preventable disease to scare parents back to using vaccines...

Ditto. A world where parents take medical advice from Jenny McCarthy instead of reputable research and actual doctors is a scary world indeed.

And what is Jenny McCarthy''s medical advice?

She''s been on the vaccines cause autism bandwagon for years and tells parents to skip vaccines, etc. You know, because she has such a strong medical background and all.

A link to an interview where she displays her superior intellect: Time interview

 

[kenny]

For the record I do not have children and I feel that is not relevant to this topic.
I can still hold and express an opinion and I feel it's okay to refer to MY children, as if I had some, to make a point.

Not being a member of a group does not prevent a person from holding opinions.
You didn't have to be black to oppose slavery.

 

[jewelz617]

Date: 3/13/2010 11:41:32 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 3/13/2010 11:38:15 PM

Author: PinkAsscher678

Date: 3/13/2010 11:31:20 PM


Author: thing2of2

Date: 3/13/2010 1:45:02 PM


Author: Callisto


This is good to hear, but unfortunately the damage of scaring parents about vaccines seems to have already been done. Which is so crazy when you look and see that this whole scare was started from a study that has since been proven to be terribly conducted and incredibly erroneous. These parents don''t believe the results from multiple reputable labs across the world and instead use a ridiculous clinical trial to back themselves up.


Unfortunately it will probably take a bunch of kids dying from preventable disease to scare parents back to using vaccines...

Ditto. A world where parents take medical advice from Jenny McCarthy instead of reputable research and actual doctors is a scary world indeed.

And what is Jenny McCarthy''s medical advice?

She''s been on the vaccines cause autism bandwagon for years and tells parents to skip vaccines, etc. You know, because she has such a strong medical background and all.


A link to an interview where she displays her superior intellect: Time interview

Hmmm... yeah. Skipping vaccines altogether is not the answer. Even me who worries about e-e-e-e-veryything and am extremely wary of what the vaccines contain, I still have my daughter fully vaccinated. My thing is, even if autism was a risk (which now I know it is not) I would rather have an autistic child than a dead child. And meningitis can kill in a matter of hours. That''s a hell of a lot scarier than autism, to me anyway.

Very interesting articles!

 

[Imdanny]

Date: 3/13/2010 11:32:20 PM
Author: Circe

Date: 3/13/2010 10:57:28 PM

Author: Imdanny

Date: 3/13/2010 1:36:56 PM


Author: kenny


I normally deeply defend every parent's right to make choices about their child.



I detest government intervention in family matters, but this is a public health issue.




Not vaccinating your kid increases his or her chances of getting disease X which puts all the other school kids at risk.




Your choices putting MY kid at risk is not cool.

But you don't have kids, Kenny.

I don't believe anything a federal court says unless I can understand the issues involved and consider the ruling myself. I'm not saying they're right or wrong about this (I don't know) but I won't take their word because the federal judiciary is thoroughly corrupt.

Oy. Danny, I could be misunderstanding, but are you saying that unless things are lowest common denominator, no one should trust the people who have the time and training to demonstrate their expertise to the rest of us? I'm hoping I'm getting this wrong somehow, because, in a nutshell, I think that's the crux of America's ongoing problem with anti-intellectualism. It guarantees that complex issues are reduced to sound-bytes and the 'trustworthiness' of the source (see also, Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, and any other snake-oil salesman blackening the name of P.T. Barnum attitude-wise). Dogs and children love them!


Autism is *not* linked to vaccination. Study after study after study has amply demonstrated this (in contrast to, you know, that one dishonest, biased, and paid-for thing that was bought by The Voice of the People, Jenny McCarthy, the woman whom I still best remember for her ability to touch her own chin with her tongue). Epidemics? Those *are* linked to the absence of vaccination. We're not talking about outrageous claims here ....

LOL! No, I'm not arguing about vaccinations, at all.

And, yes, I certainly failed to convey what I was saying if I gave the impression that unless things are lowest common denominator, no one should trust experts.

I'm not an anti-intellectual person. Ask Kenny. I'm a nerd who gets into what Kenny calls (with derision) college style debates on a regular basis.

But no, I do not NECESSARILY trust the federal courts to make these kinds of determinations because, as I said, federal courts are often corrupt (e.g. they often rule in favor of corporations).

All I meant was that I don't have enough information about this to form an opinion, and absent that, for me, a federal court ruling doesn't change that. If I studied the ruling and read the expert testimony, I might change my mind (about whether it should lead me to an opinion).

Does this make any sense? I hope so!

 

[Imdanny]

Date: 3/13/2010 11:37:51 PM
Author: thing2of2
DITTO CIRCE. Attitudes like that are everything that is wrong with America. Hooray for another Dark Ages!

Do you even realize how rude you are talking about someone who''s posting in the same thread let alone the fact that you didn''t understand one thing I said?

Wow.

 

[Imdanny]

Date: 3/14/2010 1:30:37 AM
Author: Imdanny

Date: 3/13/2010 11:37:51 PM

Author: thing2of2

DITTO CIRCE. Attitudes like that are everything that is wrong with America. Hooray for another Dark Ages!

Do you even realize how rude you are talking about someone who''s posting in the same thread let alone the fact that you didn''t understand one thing I said?


Wow.

For the record.

thing2of2, it''s not everyday I get accused of being guilty of "everything that is wrong with America" along with your bizarre, over the top sarcasm about "another Dark Ages!"

Your comments are offensive and I''ve reported them to the moderators.

 

[susimoo]

I know that similar things have happened here in the UK. I am a believer in having children, including my own, vaccinated. What I do not want is for her to be given several vaccines at once. We decided that we would not have her vaccinated with the MMR jab and paid for separate vaccines spaced over an 18 to 24 week period. She is about to undertake her boosters before going to school.

The reason we didn''t give her the MMR? I worked with a woman whose daughter gave birth to a beautiful baby boy approx 10 years ago. He was born on the same day as a dear work colleague had her daughter. Both mums regularly came to visit us and we watched them both as they grew and developed. He was as normal a child as you could ever hope to meet. Then after the MMR there was a distinct change in his demeanor and things rapidly grew worse. He was diagnosed with autism several years later.

I am not a doctor and having read the arguments before, both for and against. In the end I could only go on what I saw with my own eyes. Indeed when I fell pregnant the grandmother urged me to vaccinate but separately, not with the MMR. All the court rulings in the world will not change this family''s view that their world changed for the worst the day the boy was given the MMR.

I have heard people say it was a coincidence that the change took place at the same time as MMR was administered. Perhaps it is true. I for one was not prepared to take the risk.

I believe in choice. An educated choice. However I do not think you should endanger your child or others by non vaccination.

 

[jewelz617]

Date: 3/14/2010 7:18:41 AM
Author: susimoo
I know that similar things have happened here in the UK. I am a believer in having children, including my own, vaccinated. What I do not want is for her to be given several vaccines at once. We decided that we would not have her vaccinated with the MMR jab and paid for separate vaccines spaced over an 18 to 24 week period. She is about to undertake her boosters before going to school.


The reason we didn''t give her the MMR? I worked with a woman whose daughter gave birth to a beautiful baby boy approx 10 years ago. He was born on the same day as a dear work colleague had her daughter. Both mums regularly came to visit us and we watched them both as they grew and developed. He was as normal a child as you could ever hope to meet. Then after the MMR there was a distinct change in his demeanor and things rapidly grew worse. He was diagnosed with autism several years later.


I am not a doctor and having read the arguments before, both for and against. In the end I could only go on what I saw with my own eyes. Indeed when I fell pregnant the grandmother urged me to vaccinate but separately, not with the MMR. All the court rulings in the world will not change this family''s view that their world changed for the worst the day the boy was given the MMR.


I have heard people say it was a coincidence that the change took place at the same time as MMR was administered. Perhaps it is true. I for one was not prepared to take the risk.


I believe in choice. An educated choice. However I do not think you should endanger your child or others by non vaccination.

This.

 

[Maisie]

Date: 3/14/2010 7:18:41 AM
Author: susimoo
I know that similar things have happened here in the UK. I am a believer in having children, including my own, vaccinated. What I do not want is for her to be given several vaccines at once. We decided that we would not have her vaccinated with the MMR jab and paid for separate vaccines spaced over an 18 to 24 week period. She is about to undertake her boosters before going to school.

The reason we didn''t give her the MMR? I worked with a woman whose daughter gave birth to a beautiful baby boy approx 10 years ago. He was born on the same day as a dear work colleague had her daughter. Both mums regularly came to visit us and we watched them both as they grew and developed. He was as normal a child as you could ever hope to meet. Then after the MMR there was a distinct change in his demeanor and things rapidly grew worse. He was diagnosed with autism several years later.

I am not a doctor and having read the arguments before, both for and against. In the end I could only go on what I saw with my own eyes. Indeed when I fell pregnant the grandmother urged me to vaccinate but separately, not with the MMR. All the court rulings in the world will not change this family''s view that their world changed for the worst the day the boy was given the MMR.

I have heard people say it was a coincidence that the change took place at the same time as MMR was administered. Perhaps it is true. I for one was not prepared to take the risk.

I believe in choice. An educated choice. However I do not think you should endanger your child or others by non vaccination.

I just wanted to say that my son James appeared to be completely ''normal'' up till he was around 16 months. Then we started noticing that things weren''t quite as they should be. If a child has mild autism it might not be picked up till this age anyway. My doctor told me a firm diagnosis for autism shouldn''t be made at a young age as children develop and change so much in the early years.

 

[ksinger]

Date: 3/14/2010 4:05:43 AM
Author: Imdanny

Date: 3/14/2010 1:30:37 AM
Author: Imdanny

Date: 3/13/2010 11:37:51 PM

Author: thing2of2

DITTO CIRCE. Attitudes like that are everything that is wrong with America. Hooray for another Dark Ages!

Do you even realize how rude you are talking about someone who''s posting in the same thread let alone the fact that you didn''t understand one thing I said?


Wow.

For the record.

thing2of2, it''s not everyday I get accused of being guilty of ''everything that is wrong with America'' along with your bizarre, over the top sarcasm about ''another Dark Ages!''

Your comments are offensive and I''ve reported them to the moderators.

And you didn''t get accused of that by either Circe OR thing. YOU misunderstood and overreacted. I''m pretty sure that she was agreeing with Circe''s description of an attitude(which Circe asked if you held and did not "accuse" you of), and that it didn''t have much to do with you personally. If you think thing''s comment was report-worthy, you never hung out in the political threads much did ya?

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 3/14/2010 4:05:43 AM
Author: Imdanny

Date: 3/14/2010 1:30:37 AM

Author: Imdanny

Date: 3/13/2010 11:37:51 PM

Author: thing2of2

DITTO CIRCE. Attitudes like that are everything that is wrong with America. Hooray for another Dark Ages!

Do you even realize how rude you are talking about someone who''s posting in the same thread let alone the fact that you didn''t understand one thing I said?

Wow.

For the record.

thing2of2, it''s not everyday I get accused of being guilty of ''everything that is wrong with America'' along with your bizarre, over the top sarcasm about ''another Dark Ages!''

Your comments are offensive and I''ve reported them to the moderators.

Ha, well then I guess it''s a good thing I wasn''t "accusing you" of anything or even "talking about" you. But I''m the one who is isn''t understanding a thing someone says?

ksinger has it right-I was agreeing with Circe''s comments about anti-intellectualism in the US. But report away!

 

[susimoo]

Date: 3/14/2010 9:38:43 AM
Author: Maisie

Date: 3/14/2010 7:18:41 AM

Author: susimoo

I know that similar things have happened here in the UK. I am a believer in having children, including my own, vaccinated. What I do not want is for her to be given several vaccines at once. We decided that we would not have her vaccinated with the MMR jab and paid for separate vaccines spaced over an 18 to 24 week period. She is about to undertake her boosters before going to school.


The reason we didn''t give her the MMR? I worked with a woman whose daughter gave birth to a beautiful baby boy approx 10 years ago. He was born on the same day as a dear work colleague had her daughter. Both mums regularly came to visit us and we watched them both as they grew and developed. He was as normal a child as you could ever hope to meet. Then after the MMR there was a distinct change in his demeanor and things rapidly grew worse. He was diagnosed with autism several years later.


I am not a doctor and having read the arguments before, both for and against. In the end I could only go on what I saw with my own eyes. Indeed when I fell pregnant the grandmother urged me to vaccinate but separately, not with the MMR. All the court rulings in the world will not change this family''s view that their world changed for the worst the day the boy was given the MMR.


I have heard people say it was a coincidence that the change took place at the same time as MMR was administered. Perhaps it is true. I for one was not prepared to take the risk.


I believe in choice. An educated choice. However I do not think you should endanger your child or others by non vaccination.

I just wanted to say that my son James appeared to be completely ''normal'' up till he was around 16 months. Then we started noticing that things weren''t quite as they should be. If a child has mild autism it might not be picked up till this age anyway. My doctor told me a firm diagnosis for autism shouldn''t be made at a young age as children develop and change so much in the early years.

I agree with you Maisie. It may have been purely coincidence, as many others, including health professionals have told the family. I just didn''t want to take the risk.