Fancy Yellow Radiant and Trillion Ring, is the price right?

[mgkiest]

I got a price of $4,995.00 for the following:

1.15 Carats Radiant Cut Diamond GIA Fancy Yellow/VS1 Custom Made
platinum and 22karat gold ring with trilliant diamonds :

Shape cut: Cornered Rectangular
Modified: Brilliant
Meas: 5.45 x 4.37 x 3.32 mm
Weight: 0.75
Depth: 76.0%
Table: 68%
Girdle: slightly thick to thick
culet: NONE
Polish: Good
Symmetry: good
Clarity: VS1
Color: Natural Fancy Yellow, even
Floroscence: Faint
Metal: Platium and 22karat yello
Total weight of two side stones/trillions .37, Color F Clarity VS

Retail Replacement Price $9,000.00 ?????

Is this a good deal?

 

[MINE!!]

I am sure that someone can help you in this forum... but for extra great help.. I would post this is Rocky Talky... there are many daimond enthusiast and experts there. Good Luck... Sounds beautiful!!

 

[mgkiest]

Thanks, but how do I get to Rocky Talky?

 

[MINE!!]

Go to the place right above this thread which says "HOME" -- Diamond Prices and Grading--- Diamond prices and Grading---- colored Stones---
Click on DIAMOND PRICES AND GRADING
It will take you to a page of introduction to thread section...
Click on the ROCKY TALKY one..
Then you are there.. post the same thing you did here....
Let me know if you are still having trouble!

 

[Cave Keeper]

Date: 9/21/2005 12:54:02 PM
Author:mgkiest
I got a price of $4,995.00 for the following:

1.15 Carats Radiant Cut Diamond GIA Fancy Yellow/VS1 Custom Made
:
Color: Natural Fancy Yellow, even
:
Is this a good deal?

That might depend on how yellow your fancy yellow diamond is.

I believe the term is incomplete without the word ''canary''.

Canary yellow covers a wide range of yellows. Basically, the canary yellow is further classified as light yellow, fancy medium yellow, fancy intense yellow and fancy vivid yellow.
Vivid yellow is probably very similar to the yellow on a yellow Lego brick (no promotion of Lego(Registered TM) intended).

Fancy probably means that there is no undesirable brown in the stone which can be seen under 10x magnification. For example, the World''s largest red diamond used to be the 5.03 carat one in the Smithsonian Museum, but it has brown in it and hance could not be called a fancy red. So maybe the largest fancy red diamond may have been about 2 carats or less, until, maybe 6 years ago, a 5.11 carat fancy red was cut from a 13 carat plus rough.

Color-wise, the most expensive fancy canary yellow would be fancy canary vivid yellow. But sparkle is another very important factor, and that is very difficult, if not impossible, to figure out from the data you present. Clarity-wise, VS1 is pretty top of the range for jewellery-grade stones and therefore the price you''re getting may be considered fair. Price-wise, I have a feeling the higher clarity grades will be another important factor when it comes to the valuation of investment-grade stones; and your stone''s price indicates it won''t qualify as an investment-grade stone, probably due to deficiencies in color, clarity and sparkle.

But you should ask an expert, such as a qualified gemologist or properly-trained gem appraisor, as I''m only a beginner who just bought a gemstone tweezer this week.

 

[valeria101]

Date: 9/21/2005 12:54:02 PM
Author:mgkiest

Retail Replacement Price $9,000.00 ?????

This bit doesn't say anything... immagine it is a bit of graphic decoration on whatever paper it is written on.

The rest... why not. You can surely find some comparable diamonds vith quotes to compare. The setting makes such price comparison a bit tricky and so does the range of color in 'fancy yellow' and the unknown details of cut, but that is usually the case. That diamond is not particularly large for its weight (that you can check against colorless too, but it is rather obvious even among the few fancy yellow options around), and that makes a difference for the price that seem to have already been taken into account. Forget about the color range - that is not feasible to check online at all: taking just size and grades into account it is possible to compare prices for fun (i.e. that is far from perfect comparison). Icestore and Dirtchepadiamonds have lists of yellows online (some pictures too) and there is the occasional piece at Fancydiamonds or whatever. It can't hurt to take a look.

Just some 0.2 worth...



Speaking of choices... look at this one. I suspect it is not the most yellow of 'intense' but... it is larger and a grade up and VS1 and of comparable price with your ring for some reason I am not sure of.

Basically:
Carat 1.21
Cut Radiant
Color Intense Yellow Clarity VS1
Report GIA
Measurements 5.47 - 6.24 x 3.79 Depth 69.3
Table 66
Girdle t-xtk
Culet None
Polish Good
Symmetry Good
Fluorescence None

Sure enough, there is the matter of the setting - if that is very important to you to the point that it is the decisive factor aside the center stone, than the story changes allowing at leats 2k for the setting makes the comparison difficult online. Finding a diamond well under 1 carat but of the same size may not be difficult, but then, what's the gain? Color and looks not being easy (if even possible) to compare down to relevant precission. And then, perhaps you like the sound of '1.xx carats' even if they do not show as spread. If the particular cut was decisive for the color grade is not something I could possibly tell even given better information than what is there.

 

[Cave Keeper]

Date: 9/22/2005 8:19:37 AM
Author: valeria101
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Forget about the color range
:

Can I take this bit of remark to mean that a particular and most highly desirable color may not be the most important factor in colored stones?

 

[valeria101]

Date: 9/23/2005 1:10:37 PM
Author: Cave Keeper

Date: 9/22/2005 8:19:37 AM
Author: valeria101
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Forget about the color range
:

Can I take this bit of remark to mean that a particular and most highly desirable color may not be the most important factor in colored stones?

DEFINITELY NOT!

At least... not coming from me.

My intention in that post was to say that, since color cannot be checked online, it is still worth looking at the parameters that can be checked. This was said with the understanding that the result of such comparison has to be balanced with further considerations about color.

Besides, there wasn''t such deep philosophy involved anyway - the diamond seems small for the weight, and not small for the price, IMO. So it is reasonable to question if such an item is preffered by the prospective owner against other options with different tradeoffs (I tried to suggest some larger diamonds of comparable weight somewhat disregarding the cost of the setting, and some other diamonds with smaller weight but about the same size). Color? Aside reasing greades on lab reports whenever available, I do not know how to make finer observations about it online - leaving aside sellers'' descriptions, of course (which... is a whole different matter

).

Hope some of this makes sense.

 

[valeria101]

On a different mood...

Well, no one buys ''color'' alone unless we are talking about a bucket of paint. Given that ''the color'' cannot be dissociated from the rest of the package but for a silly analytical exercise - sure enough other things come into consideration. So I am not going to say that ''nothing but color matters'' if anyone - God forbid - asked that one.

Smarter and far, far more competent people dealt with these already. There is no need for me to revise this topic. Have mercy, please...