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Families are breaking up from disagreeing on COVID precautions

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A NPR Opinion article ...

A letter from a reader


"Dear Life Kit,

While the world has moved on from COVID, my spouse insists on a family life in near lockdown. None of us are high risk, but he's concerned about the chance of getting long COVID and the unknown effects of repeat infections.

We don't go to restaurants or fly. My young kids have no group extracurriculars, they don't go into grocery stores, to libraries or to birthday parties. They're only at school (after three years of homeschooling) because we had no other options for childcare.

Since my spouse has a long commute to work, it's me who ends work everyday at 1:30 p.m. to do pick-ups so that our kids don't have additional exposure in aftercare. We can't hire a babysitter because of his COVID concerns. My spouse is looking for remote jobs so that he can quit his in-person job, pull the kids out of school and oversee their homeschooling indefinitely.

I recognize the validity of his anxiety, but I feel that some health risks are worthwhile: spending time with family, activities that make kids feel integrated in a community of peers so they can become socialized adults and me being engaged in my career.

Everyone around us is moving on, and I'm no longer sure how much precaution is too much. — Lockdown Limbo"




Response from Jessica Malaty Rivera is an epidemiologist and the science communication lead at The Pandemic Tracking Collective.

So the pandemic is not over. That's a sentence people are probably tired of hearing. COVID is still a disease that's causing too much morbidity and mortality for us to say it has passed. That said, the acuteness is not the same as it was pre-vaccines. And I say that with a lot of comfort, knowing that vaccines have done an incredible job of preventing extreme illness, hospitalization and death for most people who are up-to-date on the vaccines.

Long COVID is still an unknown, and I think that's one of the biggest confounding factors of COVID-19. I have a lot of empathy for this person's spouse and for the letter writer who is ready to reintegrate into society. Humans as a species are not really designed to live in isolation. So after this many years, it can be incredibly traumatizing, isolating and burdensome, especially with children at home.

Risk is one of the most difficult topics to discuss and educate on in public health because risk perception is influenced by people's internal biases — by their communities, their histories, their traumas and their experiences. I often preface the way that I discuss my risk tolerance in the context of where I live, the ages of my children, our vaccination status and our medical history. All those things inform how I make those assessments.

Knowing that these kids have been in school and have been COVID-free or relatively OK for a while, they can probably tack on an extra extracurricular activity, keeping in mind degrees of relative risk — meaning try an outdoor activity before an indoor activity. Maybe it's extracurricular sports, maybe it's going to play dates in the park. Baby steps.

[I would say that Lockdown Limbo can introduce these ideas to their spouse] in the context of making sure the kids are being socialized beyond school. We have data to show that it's incredibly helpful for children to have well-rounded experiences with other children in various contexts. It's part of their social and emotional adaptation. So I might say, "Our kids need more engagement with others outside of the context of just school. We should probably start doing some extracurricular activities safely by prioritizing outdoor activities first and see how we go from there."

I don't think that there's anything more disruptive to human life than a pandemic. Moving forward together requires a lot of transparency and a lot of conversation about what's working and what's not working. It requires you to be really honest about the toll that it's taken on your individual life — your mental health, your partnership and your parenting relationships. If we're not really specific about what the trauma of the pandemic has meant to us as individuals, I think we'll exist silently and miserably, and possibly with resentment and bitterness towards people in our lives.

Source: https://www.npr.org/2023/02/07/1155289881/covid-protocol-risk-tolerance-household-compromise
 
Yeah, that's too extreme. There will always be some. That's the price of intense vigilance for years, against the backdrop of a vulnerable substrate (i.e., for some people, it's more than they can handle.) It's not a reason to be less careful next time, imo.

We have always been careful and followed the rules. We traveled pretty early and dined our fairly early and often. No public transit or air travel without an N95 -- and that's still the case. A loose-fitting N95 is ridiculous -- like sitting on top of a buckled seatbelt.
 
Life is for living and it means having to take some risks.

I could die due to no fault of my own just going out and about minding my own business.

I had Covid even when I was up to date with my vaccinations, recovered fully with no long lasting effects.

Life is back to normal for me, however I still carry a mask in case I am asked to wear one.

DK :))
 
You cannot live in fear. This is beyond extreme. I understand this from a personal level. My best friend lost 15 close family members to Covid! She had to seek help to work through her extreme fear and learn to live.
 
@mom2dolls I agree with you. Your poor friend, how devastating.
 
Oh my goodness, I am so sorry about your friend @mom2dolls :(


We all have to do what we feel is best for us
We can only do the best we can do

We wear N95 masks when inside where others are
We don't socialize in large groups
When we do socialize (one on one or two on two) we test first
And we are still being careful

We still go to medical appointments but always wearing N95s
We are still enjoying and living our lives albeit more carefully and differently than before
These changes are not hard to do and that quote..an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure comes to mind

We can only control our behavior and not the behavior of others
All we can do is share the scientific info and allow others to read and process and make the best decision they can for themselves. Unfortunately not everyone understands medical/scientific info but again all we can do is the test we can and we cannot make others do what we want to even if we think it is best for them

That is all
 
Oh my, that is extreme. This will not be good for the kids for sure. They need socialization. I hope they come to their senses.
 
Being hostage to fear at all times and calling that a living?
Yeah...nah....
 
I have to say if families are actually breaking up over this, IMO, they were not very strong ties to begin with and did not have a healthy or strong relationship.

We get to see who people are in times of adversity. That is, when you know a person's true character. And I, for one, always welcome learning who someone really is because time is precious and I do not want to waste time or energy on those who are not worth my time and energy.

Covid is a good stress test to any relationship.
 
I have to say that if family members are £$%^ enough to try to impose their views (whatever those views are) on other members and try to guilt trip them into doing what they don't wanna do (wear something, not wear something, take something, not take something), then THEY are the selfish pr$cks in the equasion!

But selfish pr$cks or not, family is family, and unlike a forum membership, you cannot quit being family.
 
@Gloria27, that’s not totally true, I quit my biological family, haven’t been a part of that family for 26 years now. Family is not always family, especially when they don’t treat you like part of one.

Just had to say that.
 
@Gloria27, that’s not totally true, I quit my biological family, haven’t been a part of that family for 26 years now. Family is not always family, especially when they don’t treat you like part of one.

Just had to say that.
No, you are totally right.
My wording was a bit ambiguous there, what I meant was you can cut ties with your family but you cannot cease to be related to them no matter what, you share blood (dna).

I guess the word family really is more about the social part than genetics.
 
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Aw, that's a pretty severe trauma response. It's sad. It's understandable, too, considering.
Therapy would probably help to get outside perspective and some tools.
Is it time to throw caution entirely to the wind? No, of course not. But a balance can be struck.
 
That is so heartbreaking to hear she lost fifteen family members..I can’t even imagine. I can see how traumatizing that must be. I don’t think anyone knows how it would affect them unless it happened to them personally.
 
That man's behavior is not, to me, logical or rational. I would suspect an underlying anxiety or depression issue.

Frankly, since the kids are going to school and he is going to work---is the barn door not already open? So far they have survived so why not let them socialize or go out to a restaurant?

To expect your entire family to work and school from home and not socialize, travel or go out to eat seems pretty extreme. How long can you live like that, and what cost---especially for kids missing socialization? What message are you sending to kids if the parent is so afraid that they all have to stay at home and not be in the world?

His poor wife. Hopefully she can get him to counseling to help with this.
 
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