Enerchi|1333976739|3166560 said:It looks lovely Mike! I think it is very interesting having the round diamond in the square setting. Congratulations on your engagement!
diamondseeker2006|1333990814|3166668 said:It is funny you mention that because when I was recently looking at stone close to that size, I did consider one that was 7.2mm and it was 1.35 carats. But I went with a different stone over 1.5. You are right that there are 1.4's that are not at 7.2mm. You just have to understand that many people come here for advice on stones and it would be very, very bad if people were not told what the best performing stones would be. There are millions of diamonds and most people here want to be sure they are spending thousands of dollars on a great stone. There are a few people occasionally who will put other priorities before cut, usually size, and that is their perogative. But they need to understand they won't get the pats on the back that a good buy on an excellent stone will get. Most people out there have no idea what an ideal cut diamond looks like and will think most diamonds are pretty. But we owe it to people who come on here to tell them the truth about which diamonds would fall into the excellent/ideal category. Then you and they make the choice they prefer.
i agree with what you have said.. but the commone line about "its facing up smaller" which is the #1 reply in every thread on this board just isn't as 'easy' as stated. 7.26 is on the low end for a 1.5 and its on the pretty high end for a 1.4.. the 1.4 over 7.26 cost more than the 1.5 at 7.26 so whats the issue? thats just my point. its wasn't as simple as "oh pay less and get a bigger looking diamond"
thats not to mention the experts that said i could find a 1.2 facing up bigger than 7.26.. thats just crazy.. good luck finding a 1.2 that faces up bigger than 7.
06pvc|1333992241|3166684 said:i agree with what you have said.. but the commone line about "its facing up smaller" which is the #1 reply in every thread on this board just isn't as 'easy' as stated. 7.26 is on the low end for a 1.5 and its on the pretty high end for a 1.4.. the 1.4 over 7.26 cost more than the 1.5 at 7.26 so whats the issue? thats just my point. its wasn't as simple as "oh pay less and get a bigger looking diamond"
thats not to mention the experts that said i could find a 1.2 facing up bigger than 7.26.. thats just crazy.. good luck finding a 1.2 that faces up bigger than 7.
I agree its not simple. But a thorough search would yield a 1.3 with same spread that same cost, but that is much better cut. If you value cut over caret weight (for the same given spread) you choose the lighter but better cut stone. If you value caret weight over cut than you choose the heavier stone less well cut stone. To each his own.
I was recently in the same spot with the 2ct barrier and (with the help of the smarties like Diamondseeker ws persued to get smaller size) found that all the 2ct within my budget where deep 2ct stones with 8mm diameters. So I got a 1.86 with an 8mm that was same price. I sacrificed 0.14ctw and 0mm for much better light performance.
06pvc|1333993026|3166696 said:The 1.3 was based off of what other people said. It is irrelevant.
What I can do is link you a stone that has an identical spread, has an identical price, has lower weight, but is much better cut. Would that make you happy? The point is that what the stone weighs is irrelevant (to me at least, obviously not to you), the size of the stone is the spread not the tcw.
well exactly, that is my point.. i did tons of searches. my actual expert appraiser in nyc said i did extremely well for the price and size i got.
just saying i could get a bigger diamond for cheaper b/c i have 1.5 at 7.26 sounds good, but its not possible. maybe if i decided to slip down into the JKL colors.. but personally those diamonds look yellow to me, i can see the diff. So no, i don't want a yellow diamond that is cut better.
06pvc|1333995409|3166727 said:well exactly, that is my point.. i did tons of searches. my actual expert appraiser in nyc said i did extremely well for the price and size i got.
just saying i could get a bigger diamond for cheaper b/c i have 1.5 at 7.26 sounds good, but its not possible. maybe if i decided to slip down into the JKL colors.. but personally those diamonds look yellow to me, i can see the diff. So no, i don't want a yellow diamond that is cut better.
your right. leaving color and clarity constant you decided size,measured both in weight and spread was more important to you than cut. That is a reasonable thing to do. I personally would have looked for eye clean SI2s for a bigger size, but you gotta prioritize and then optimize based on the preference of your parameters. You did that, so no faulting you there. I think maybe you got some friction because your parameters where different than others. Here cut is king.
Mike...you still don't get it do ya??...
buying a well cut diamond is like buying a nice piece of steak with all its excess FAT trimed off.
hey,then why come to PS for advise??..SweetAsscher|1334021886|3167074 said:I too think he gets it. He just doesn't care.
I think it is us that just can't wrap our heads around not wanting a spectacularly cut diamond. But of course he might change his mind once he actually sees one.
vtigger86 said:hey,then why come to PS for advise??..SweetAsscher|1334021886|3167074 said:I too think he gets it. He just doesn't care.
I think it is us that just can't wrap our heads around not wanting a spectacularly cut diamond. But of course he might change his mind once he actually sees one.
06pvc|1334022661|3167088 said:Also mike.
I had some more time and did a more detailed search. Here is a 1.54 G/SI2 from blue nile for 8.4K. I bought a blue nile stone from IDJ that I got for ~300 less than the BN pirce, so I think you'd be looking at 8.1K.
http://www.bluenile.com/build-your-own-diamond-ring?forceStep=DIAMONDS_STEP&builder=BYOR&pid=LD02520882
It gets an HCA 0.8, and has a spread of 7.51x7.42. The flouresence may make it cloudy and it may not be eye clean, but thorough search means you check those things out.
Omg are you serious ? This is the advice from the experts ? Do you see the inclusions in that diamond? Yea let me trade in my perfect eye
clean 1.5 that I love for that diamond b.c it rated better on hca. Wow was my appraiser right. That diamond looks like it was in a blender
Full of fluorescent too.. all b.c the all mighty hca is low.. funny
Besides, he's no longer asking for advice, he has already purchased the ring and proposed!
yes actually i would.. i'd like to see what size you can manage to get 8500 at, ideal cut.. i venture to say 1 carat, facing up much smaller.
no more generalizing, its not "irrelevant" that's my point.
mike899|1332293976|3153224 said:As for the 64% .. personally It's the perfect size . Looking.. I don't want it to look any bigger.
I will try and get a better picture.
Its not a cushion cut. At least I don't think I have to check the certain, that is also in the closet.
You can't see any inclusions with the naked eye no matter how hard you look. I could not see them with the magnifier after he set it, he did a great job.
I guess it could be a lil more sparkling, but the setting does make up for it a bit.
06pvc|1334025176|3167128 said:Omg are you serious ? This is the advice from the experts ? Do you see the inclusions in that diamond? Yea let me trade in my perfect eye
clean 1.5 that I love for that diamond b.c it rated better on hca. Wow was my appraiser right. That diamond looks like it was in a blender
Full of fluorescent too.. all b.c the all mighty hca is low.. funny
Haha. I see why everyone here treats you with so little respect. Smugness does not evoke respect from others.
1) I have never claimed to be an expert. I have 91 posts and have 3.5 months of pricescope reading. Far from an expert, although far past you in knowledge though.
2) The diamond I posted has twinning wisps which are one of the best inclusions to have. The inclusion chart is not that thorough. Part of a thorough search is asking your vendor if it is eye clean. But you know it all.
3) HCA < 2 + Excellent GIA Grade is a good start. A thorough search includes getting an ideal scope picture.
4) Full of fluorescent too. For a lot of people fluorescence is desired attribute. You know it all though. In <5% of stones this can have a negative affect. A thorough search involves getting this checked out.