Emerald Opinions

[diamondnewb22]

First, I would like to say thanks to this forum for the knowledge it provided me in helping me pick out this emerald cut diamond. Below are the specs, It is GIA cert. and I was able to get them to run a Sarin report for Crown Height Percentage. Everything about the diamond is in class 1A except the table which is class 1B. Will see the most important factor (how it looks) when it is delivered. Will post pics then. Opinions/critiques welcomed. Thanks again guys.

Carat weight: 1.53
Cut: Very Good
Color: J
Clarity: VS1
Crown Height% 12.37
Depth % 61.7%
Table %: 67%
Symmetry: Very Good
Polish: Excellent
Girdle: Medium to Medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 8.36 x 5.74 x 3.54 mm
Length/width ratio: 1.46

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/19/2010 3:28:04 PM
Author:diamondnewb22
First, I would like to say thanks to this forum for the knowledge it provided me in helping me pick out this emerald cut diamond. Below are the specs, It is GIA cert. and I was able to get them to run a Sarin report for Crown Height Percentage. Everything about the diamond is in class 1A except the table which is class 1B. Will see the most important factor (how it looks) when it is delivered. Will post pics then. Opinions/critiques welcomed. Thanks again guys.

Carat weight: 1.53
Cut: Very Good
Color: J
Clarity: VS1
Crown Height% 12.37
Depth % 61.7%
Table %: 67%
Symmetry: Very Good
Polish: Excellent
Girdle: Medium to Medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 8.36 x 5.74 x 3.54 mm
Length/width ratio: 1.46

Hi Diamondnewb

Although the table is larger than the depth whereas the reverse is normally preferred, the stone has possibilities certainly on paper so I will be interested to hear what you think when you see it. It is possible the stone might show some slight warmth in that size and for the colour grade but that isn''t necessarily an issue.

When do you expect it to arrive?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Have you seen a J colored EC in person? Be aware that the diamond will have a definite tint or warmth to it. Not necessarily a bad thing, but don''t expect a purley colorless stone.

 

[Rockdiamond]

Diamondnewb22- If I had one piece of advice- please do not let the chart affect your opinion of the diamond, as you will be looking at it.
There are countless cases of amazing, desirable, and extremely well cut diamonds which don't jibe with the chart you refer to......
Other than the person who made the chart, it's incredibly rare for any professional to refer to it.

PS- although dreamer's advice is commonly given, I myself have not had that experience-
I have found that many emerald cuts in the J range look very white.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 3/19/2010 3:50:38 PM
Author: Rockdiamond
PS- although dreamer''s advice is commonly given, I myself have not had that experience-
I have found that many emerald cuts in the J range look very white.

I am sure there are lots of Js that look white... for J''s. But they are not colorless or would be graded as such.

I am not stearing the OP away from the stone, but we need to be realistic in our expectations about color.

 

[Lula]

And please look at the J in a variety of lighting conditions, tilting it from side to side. J''s are color chameleons and may look bright white in one light and a soft white in another. I, too, am not trying to sway you from the stone, but as a person who has owned J, I, and M color stones, you need to know how they perform in different lighting conditions before you can make an informed choice.

 

[emeraldlover1]

My stone looks pretty white for a J. It''s not white like a E but enough white that it doesn''t show tint straight on. I can see color well which is why when I tilt my stone to the side in certian lighting I can see a tint. Lucky for me I picked a setting where that is very minimal. I also think my halo stones help disquise it a bit. I have a very intricate basket on my setting so the stone can''t be viewed from below. I was under the impression that diamonds are graded on the color scale upside down. I don''t know why that is the case however I personally believe that maybe mine might have been graded differently if it was graded face up.

I think what everyone is telling you here is that a J color in an emerald cut is a risk if you are color sensitive. You could get lucky and get a slamming EC that barely shows any color. During our search I compared a G next to my J and the G showed significantly more color that my stone from the top. I don''t know why so I just let me eyes decide.

I hope you love the stone when you get it. I love the unique personalites of EC''s. I hope you get a winner and please post any pictures if you have some.

 

[diamondnewb22]

From reading this place I do understand that the diamond could have all the right specs and not look impressive so I have my fingers crossed. As far as the color goes
my fiancee and I looked at about 20 emerald cuts locally in sunlight not store light. The (J,I,H) color differences were not noticeable to her eye. What she really noticed was how some emeralds had more fire and sparkle others with better color looked dull. That is why I feel real fortunate to have found one that was cut class 1A especially the crown height%. The depth will also make it look like 1.53 stone. The price of the stone was $5800 and Blue Nile has a great return policy, so if it does not look impressive we will just return it and start searching again. Thanks again guys, will post pics next week when it arrives.

 

[diamondnewb22]

Hi Diamondnewb


Although the table is larger than the depth whereas the reverse is normally preferred, the stone has possibilities certainly on paper so I will be interested to hear what you think when you see it. It is possible the stone might show some slight warmth in that size and for the colour grade but that isn''t necessarily an issue.


When do you expect it to arrive?

I noted the table being larger than the depth which I knew was not ideal from reading this forum, thats why I asked them to run the Sarin report for crown height% and was pleasantly surprised when it came back class 1A 12.37%. The table was still class 1B at 67%, I think class 1A for table is 60%-65%. Again I am trying not to get to excited until I see the stone.

 

[Rockdiamond]

Date: 3/19/2010 3:57:25 PM
Author: dreamer_d

Date: 3/19/2010 3:50:38 PM

Author: Rockdiamond

PS- although dreamer''s advice is commonly given, I myself have not had that experience-

I have found that many emerald cuts in the J range look very white.

I am sure there are lots of Js that look white... for J''s. But they are not colorless or would be graded as such.


I am not stearing the OP away from the stone, but we need to be realistic in our expectations about color.

I agree- when I''m speaking to consumers, I ask them if they are color sensitive.
There are people who see a G as "tinted"- bu these are in the minority- and generally know who they are themselves.

I know that a lot of folks have said just what dreamer did- but in my experience, it''s just as likely for a round to show the color in a J ( to those that are bothered by it) as an emerald cut.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/19/2010 5:11:05 PM
Author: diamondnewb22

Hi Diamondnewb


Although the table is larger than the depth whereas the reverse is normally preferred, the stone has possibilities certainly on paper so I will be interested to hear what you think when you see it. It is possible the stone might show some slight warmth in that size and for the colour grade but that isn''t necessarily an issue.


When do you expect it to arrive?

I noted the table being larger than the depth which I knew was not ideal from reading this forum, thats why I asked them to run the Sarin report for crown height% and was pleasantly surprised when it came back class 1A 12.37%. The table was still class 1B at 67%, I think class 1A for table is 60%-65%. Again I am trying not to get to excited until I see the stone.

I hope you can take some photos for us if you like it!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 3/19/2010 5:23:43 PM
Author: Rockdiamond

Date: 3/19/2010 3:57:25 PM
Author: dreamer_d

Date: 3/19/2010 3:50:38 PM

Author: Rockdiamond

PS- although dreamer''s advice is commonly given, I myself have not had that experience-

I have found that many emerald cuts in the J range look very white.

I am sure there are lots of Js that look white... for J''s. But they are not colorless or would be graded as such.


I am not stearing the OP away from the stone, but we need to be realistic in our expectations about color.

I agree- when I''m speaking to consumers, I ask them if they are color sensitive.
There are people who see a G as ''tinted''- bu these are in the minority- and generally know who they are themselves.

I know that a lot of folks have said just what dreamer did- but in my experience, it''s just as likely for a round to show the color in a J ( to those that are bothered by it) as an emerald cut.

Ah! I see and I agree!

 

[Rockdiamond]

Thanks Dreamer!!
It''s an unusual inconsistency ( yet another in diamonds)
It''s reputed that round brilliant will show the least color of all the different diamond cuts.
Yet I know from experience in yellow diamonds, that emerald cut shows even less yellow than a similar colored round, in many cases.

If we extrapolate down to J, sometimes I notice the same phenomenon.

 

[diamondnewb22]

A little update on specs, the crown height% was not 12.3, It was 9.9%, I am hoping since the pavillon height is 49.3% it will still have nice fire. What do some of the in house emerald experts (Karl)think? These are the full stats from the Sarin report. These numbers entered into the AGA calculator gave a final grade of 1B. Hopefully pics on Wednesday. Thanks guys.

1.50ct. Emerald
Width: 5.78 mm
Length 8.40 mm L/W 1.45
Total Depth: 61.1% 3.53 mm
Table Size: 66.6% 3.85 mm
Crown Height: 9.9% 0.57 mm
Crown Angle: 26.1%
Pavilion Height: 49.3% 2.85 mm
Pavilion Angle: 39.3%



AGA calculator results:

Shape: Emerald
Table % 66.6% Grade: 1B
Crown Height % 9.9% Grade: 2B
Girdle Thickness Medium Grade: 1A
Total Depth % 61.10% Grade: 1A
Polish Excellent / Very Good Grade: 1A * Not a primary determining factor.
Symmetry Excellent / Very Good Grade: 1A * Not a primary determining factor.

Final Grade: 1B

 

[diamondnewb22]

Ring is is in and we could not be happier. Ring shows fire and rainbows in all lighting. It also faces up like a much bigger stone than 1.53 carat. Most people were asking her if it was 2 carats. Here is a pic since it will not let me upload my higher res photos.. thanks for all the help and info.

 

[Lorelei]

Congratulations, it looks great!

 

[diamondnewb22]

Thanks here are some more pics in natural lighting

 

[diamondnewb22]

another

 

[diamondnewb22]

pic3

 

[diamondnewb22]

last pic with indoor lighting

 

[emeraldlover1]

It looks like it came out fantastic! Congratulations.

 

[motownmama]

I love everythng about it!