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Rough_Rock
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Hello all,
I have been reading PS for several months and have really appreciated all the information available here. I have recently been reading the thread about the MRB re-cut by SS into an OEC with much interest. I have also been soaking up information about Asschers and learning how difficult it is to find one with an excellent cut. I have searched for topics on re-cutting Asschers or re-cutting ECs into Asschers or just re-cutting ECs for better light return without much luck. That's why I'm emerging from lurkdom to pose some questions....
I have heard from one vendor that re-cutting an Asscher is a tricky business and not advised. Another vendor did not seem to reject the idea of re-cutting an Asscher or re-cutting an EC into an Asscher out of hand. Is it just a question of finding the right cutter for a project like this? Who are some of the best Asscher resources for cutting?
With RBs being re-cut to AGS 000 specs etc. and at least one PSer's MRB being re-cut into a lovely OEC, I can't help thinking of the possibilities. If one were to find an EC (4.0+ cts) with a so-so cut could an Asscher renovation take place? Maybe not even cutting the stone totally square but creating an elongated Asscher appearance like the Krupp/Liz Taylor diamond? Would the original stone need a minimum depth, table size and/or crown height combination to even make this possible?
Finding a vintage Asscher that has the depth and small table/high crown is possible with some searching, but then you pay a premium for it. If it's at an auction, it seems like everyone else realizes that it's special too, so any hope of grabbing it for a decent price is lost. I still see more ECs available than Asschers, and they are not as popular as RBs. So maybe you don't have to fight off so many other bidders? That's how I started wondering about the re-cut option.
If $ were no object, there are a few stones that I would love to buy-- among them the traditional Asscher that GOG has right now (I believe it was Kenny's?). It's stunning. Unfortunately, the lottery has not favored me just yet. So, I am trying to find a way to make my dreams come true with some research and resourcefulness.
I was recently following a lovely 8.5 x 9.5 Asscher/Emerald (GIA: Table 59%, Depth 69.5 %, large culet) at an auction. The price went too high and that was it for me (much to DH's relief-- although I think he was a bit sad for me when he saw how disappointed I looked).
Last question: I stumbled across an Asscher with the following information (GIA: 3.92 ct., 9.9 x 9.3 x 4.59, Table 65%, Depth 46.2%).This was set in a very high-end Tiffany piece and I had to read the numbers twice to be sure that I was seeing them correctly. Is this not the opposite of what we are told will make a beautiful Asscher with correct depth and "hall of mirrors" effect?
Thanks in advance for your input!
I have been reading PS for several months and have really appreciated all the information available here. I have recently been reading the thread about the MRB re-cut by SS into an OEC with much interest. I have also been soaking up information about Asschers and learning how difficult it is to find one with an excellent cut. I have searched for topics on re-cutting Asschers or re-cutting ECs into Asschers or just re-cutting ECs for better light return without much luck. That's why I'm emerging from lurkdom to pose some questions....
I have heard from one vendor that re-cutting an Asscher is a tricky business and not advised. Another vendor did not seem to reject the idea of re-cutting an Asscher or re-cutting an EC into an Asscher out of hand. Is it just a question of finding the right cutter for a project like this? Who are some of the best Asscher resources for cutting?
With RBs being re-cut to AGS 000 specs etc. and at least one PSer's MRB being re-cut into a lovely OEC, I can't help thinking of the possibilities. If one were to find an EC (4.0+ cts) with a so-so cut could an Asscher renovation take place? Maybe not even cutting the stone totally square but creating an elongated Asscher appearance like the Krupp/Liz Taylor diamond? Would the original stone need a minimum depth, table size and/or crown height combination to even make this possible?
Finding a vintage Asscher that has the depth and small table/high crown is possible with some searching, but then you pay a premium for it. If it's at an auction, it seems like everyone else realizes that it's special too, so any hope of grabbing it for a decent price is lost. I still see more ECs available than Asschers, and they are not as popular as RBs. So maybe you don't have to fight off so many other bidders? That's how I started wondering about the re-cut option.
If $ were no object, there are a few stones that I would love to buy-- among them the traditional Asscher that GOG has right now (I believe it was Kenny's?). It's stunning. Unfortunately, the lottery has not favored me just yet. So, I am trying to find a way to make my dreams come true with some research and resourcefulness.
I was recently following a lovely 8.5 x 9.5 Asscher/Emerald (GIA: Table 59%, Depth 69.5 %, large culet) at an auction. The price went too high and that was it for me (much to DH's relief-- although I think he was a bit sad for me when he saw how disappointed I looked).
Last question: I stumbled across an Asscher with the following information (GIA: 3.92 ct., 9.9 x 9.3 x 4.59, Table 65%, Depth 46.2%).This was set in a very high-end Tiffany piece and I had to read the numbers twice to be sure that I was seeing them correctly. Is this not the opposite of what we are told will make a beautiful Asscher with correct depth and "hall of mirrors" effect?
Thanks in advance for your input!
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