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wazlib

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Hello all-
I''m in the process of buying an engagement ring and have been lurking here for a few weeks. First, I''d like to say thanks so much--before stumbling over these forums, I was convinced I''d buy my gf''s ring at tiffany''s or harry winston, but have since learned I can get a lot more ring for a little more effort. Anyhow, I''ll do my best to avoid repeating topics that you all have already covered.
Here''s some background:
I''m looking to get a 2.0 - 2.5 carat D or E, vvs2 or better round (if i can find the right setting, see below) or cushion cut stone. I''m planning to purchase it from an online retailer and find the right setting myself.
Until a few months ago when we were awkwardly wandering around the 2nd floor of tiffany''s (just killing time, not actively shopping, mind you), my gf had been a bit biased against round cut stones, saying they reminded her of rings you would get at the dentist''s office for having brushed well for the past 6 months (fast forward to last week, you should have seen the horrified look on the face of the Van Cleef and Arpel''s woman when I gave this particular description!). Anyhow, during that tiffany''s trip, my gf fell in love with the deco-inspired channel setting: http://www.tiffany.com/expertise/diamond/rings/engagement_other_ring.aspx?ring=deco&. I guess the sidestones and 4 prong setting square the look of the round stone.
Last week, when I braved the 5th avenue dealers alone, I learned that tiffany''s only has G color stones in this setting. The sales associate said she didn''t know why this was the case, and conjectured it''s because the setting is still fairly new (although she offered to custom mount a D or E stone in the deco setting). Is there a reason they don''t put more colorless stones in that setting? Are D or E stones traditionally set as solitaires?
While browsing this forum, I saw a Cartier-inspired setting, similar to the tiffany''s deco setting, and thought it was fantastic but haven''t had any luck finding anything remotely similar on the internet. Does anyone know where I can find a setting similar to either the tiffany deco or the cartier-inspired setting? Here is the link to the post with the cartier setting: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/help-which-setting-im-going-to-get-this-right-yet.33358/=
This forum has been incredibly helpful so far; thanks again!
 
hi wazib and welcome
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If you look closly at the cartier example you linked you can see the middle bar going across the diamond is actually a photo shop image that guywithring used to have a ring made for his gal. you can read his thread this one


i'd also suggest taking a lot at art of platinum. Leon makes some of the most amazing settings around.

As for your stone, you can do a search and pricescope your diamond on the homepage, just keep in mind that cut is the most important thing. I'd stick to GIA ex/ex or AGS000 for a round. If you looking for a cushion, I'd suggest Mark T engagementringsdirect. he's come up with some amazing cushions and they can be tough to find. he's right in the diamond district so he can sort though many a lot easier. You might also want to check with Pearlmans Jewelers
Bill can get in the daniel K cushions which all have ex polish and symmetry and they are gorgeous, i've seen them in person. You sould also look at some of the designer settings he carries.
 
oops, just re-read the link and are you talking about buenomota''s inspired cartier?
 
Thanks for your response, Mrssalvo!
I am looking for this sort of stone for a few reasons. First, she''s a petite girl and very athletic (she runs over 100 miles/week), so I got it in my head that something much bigger than 2 or 2.5 carats would become a bit . . . what''s the right word . . . unwieldy. She actually doesn''t wear much jewelry, no rings, and can most often be found lounging about in sweatpants. This is not to say she won''t be ecstatic with the right ring, but I thought given my budget (60-70k for the stone) this size stone would be the best choice. Comfort is a big priority :-) Of course, I have so little experience with this sort of thing that I should probably venture out again and take another, in-person look at larger stones.
One thing I really like about getting a 2 - 2.5 carat stone is that I can get a perfect stone--D-IF, etc. I know that the naked eye can''t see the difference between a D-IF and say, an F-VS2, but I like that. I love the idea that we can have such an amazing stone and she''ll know it, and I''ll know it, but not every stranger on the street will know. Maybe in time I/we will think it''s goofy, but right now, the idea feels intimate, special and like the perfect gesture.
Again, I just want to build the perfect ring so I am very happy to be convinced I am dead wrong!
 
I like the idea of getting a setting like the tiffany deco custom made. Can anyone recommend any jewelers in the philadelphia (preferably) or NYC area who will do this?
 
Date: 8/9/2006 6:33:40 PM
Author: wazlib
I like the idea of getting a setting like the tiffany deco custom made. Can anyone recommend any jewelers in the philadelphia (preferably) or NYC area who will do this?

i wouldn''t feel comfortable with a repro of the Tiffany Deco setting. it''s not one that looks easy and even the simple tiffany solitaire is difficult to copy. with your budget, get her the real Tiffany
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Oh, I so agree with mrs salvo! You have a fantastic budget and you are just the guy to be able to get that 2 ct. excellent stone in the real Tiffany setting...along with a Tiffany band! A 2 ct.+ Tiffany is all class. Perfect!

Please, please promise to come back and show us photos of the ring! We don''t get to see them often. You can see that Kaleigh on this forum has an over 2 ct. Tiffany ring with pear sidestones and it is really gorgeous. (I was in there today and bought my daughter a sterling pendant for her birthday! A little less expensive than the rings!!! But I have my eye on their wedding bands!)
 
Thanks very much for the advice. Although I don''t love the idea of paying such a premium for the name, I do love the idea of being able to get the perfect ring, which I hope this will be. I will post pics, although it could be a while . . . I emailed the tiffany''s salesperson I spoke with and she said to set a new stone in the deco setting would take 4-6 months . . . can this be right?!
 
i guess if tiffany''s is saying 4-6 months it must be the case but I agree that would be very discouraging to me. I''m not very patient though and I have a hard time with 2-4 weeks. Anyway, if you don''t want to wait, I would go back to my earlier suggestion of contacting Leon Mege at Artofplatinum.com. he has made rings for many celebrities including Ashley Judd and his work is amazing. he won''t copy a design though but you might get something close and there would be no other one like it, made just for her. He''s in NYC too.
 
I don''t think that could be right. Four to six weeks is more like it. Call and ask again. They wouldn''t sell anything if everyone had to wait 4-6 months!
 
Date: 8/10/2006 8:36:30 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I don''t think that could be right. Four to six weeks is more like it. Call and ask again. They wouldn''t sell anything if everyone had to wait 4-6 months!
I tend to agree, call them back.
 
Hi all! Thanks for the help so far, just have two more questions if you have time. After speaking with the tiffany''s saleswoman again, she said it would take 8 weeks to get the stone I want mounted in the deco setting. However, the price of the stones were a bit sillier than I thought.
The prices she quoted me were:

2.02 E Vs1 58,500
2.07 D Vs1 67,000
An additional 7k to get the stone mounted in the deco setting. Are these really the same stones that are 30-35k on blue nile?

I figured I could deal with paying a 30-40% markup, but if they really are the same stones and the markup is 100%, that seems absurd. As you suggested, I''ve sent Leon Mege an email. I also took a picture to JE Caldwell and they said they could make the setting (but with square diamonds the entire way around the band) for about 9k. I know that someone mentioned earlier they wouldn''t feel comfortable with a replica of this particular setting--I''m just curious if you might offer an opinion on the quality of JE Caldwell''s work and their ability to do it.
Thanks!
 
9K?
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that's robbery.
 
Here is an example of a 2.06 ct., E, VS1 stone for $41,368 (PS price)

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1911778.htm

So, yes, it is true that you can get an equally well-cut stone for significantly less money. You likely won''t get that exact setting, though, so you''ll need to determine if you absolutely have to have *that* setting. If you do, then yes, you''re facing the mark-up on the stone to get it.

Good luck.
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Date: 8/18/2006 5:57:40 PM
Author: aljdewey
Here is an example of a 2.06 ct., E, VS1 stone for $41,368 (PS price)


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1911778.htm


So, yes, it is true that you can get an equally well-cut stone for significantly less money. You likely won't get that exact setting, though, so you'll need to determine if you absolutely have to have *that* setting. If you do, then yes, you're facing the mark-up on the stone to get it.


Good luck.
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I agree with Alj. You also might try calling Leon if he doesn't email you back quickly. He isn't always the best on returning email's promptly but very easy to get a hold of on the phone.
 
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