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My husband got me the yellow gold Tiffany solitaire setting. I have wanted it my entire life. Now that I have it, I do not love it. I'm in love with my stone, but don't like any other settings Tiffany has to offer. My thoughts are I can deal or return it and start over with a new stone and new setting elsewhere.

My stone is .92 ct.

What I don't love about the setting is the height. It sits too low on my finger for my tastes. I don't know where to begin looking for new settings. I would like to choose a setting that will look decent with my wedding band - a 1.8mm knife edge Tiffany band.

Anyone have suggestions for me?
 
I personally would start by going to B&M stores and trying off different styles to see what you love. Then look online to also see what there is out there. I'm under the impression that Tiffany's doesn't sell the stone alone but you have to get the ring+ diamond from them correct? If that is the case I would return the setting + diamond and get something else that I'm truly in love with.
 
Yes, if I return it is all or nothing. They sell the finished product. I'm torn. I am afraid I wont love another stone this much. But I also just keep hearing how overpriced they are. I have priced comparable stones and we paid approximately twice what I see on Blue Nile and other similar sites.

I spoke with a local jeweler and was told the same. I love the size of my stone and will stick with a similar size, but I want another setting.

I tried all the popular retail stores (Zales, Helzberg, Reeds, Kay, Jared) today but saw nothing worth looking twice at. All of our higher end jewelers are closed on Sunday.

I guess I will look again this week.
 
You do definitely pay more the Tiffany name, that's enough for some people, not so much for others. If you list the specs of your current stone, we can help you find a comparable one. There are so many Tiffany styled settings available, I'm sure that you can find a very similar ring with the height that you are looking for.

ETA James Allen has this knifes edge, it's also available in a 1.5mm. I owned the 2mm and it was quite comfortable.

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/2mm-Knife-Edge-18k-White-Gold-Solitaire-Ring.html
 
Christina...|1331492578|3146353 said:
You do definitely pay more the Tiffany name, that's enough for some people, not so much for others. If you list the specs of your current stone, we can help you find a comparable one. There are so many Tiffany styled settings available, I'm sure that you can find a very similar ring with the height that you are looking for.

ETA James Allen has this knifes edge, it's also available in a 1.5mm. I owned the 2mm and it was quite comfortable.

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/2mm-Knife-Edge-18k-White-Gold-Solitaire-Ring.html
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The stone is .92, VVS2, G. That's all the info I have in my memory bank and I'm not near the gemologist report. DH thinks we can for sure find another stone with as much brilliance for less and get a setting I love. That thought is very attractive.

I love the idea of having a Tiffany ring, but I don't love how the setting looks on my finger.

I saw something called a Royal Crown setting by Vatche but I don't know how that would look with my knife edge band.
 
I would just return both rings because I don't think the knife edge wedding band will look very good with anything else. It might work as a spacer band or something, though. I'd start by looking locally for general setting styles, but then come back here to look for a diamond from one of the vendors like WhiteFlash or Good Old Gold, whichever has the style of setting you like.

The only warning I have is that the Tiffany setting is timeless and will never go out of style, but many others will. Do you think that maybe getting one of the Tiffany diamond wedding bands might give you some variety? As far as the height goes, you don't want it set too high or else you'll hit it on things all the time. So do keep that in mind as you look at new settings.
 
diamondseeker2006|1331493398|3146372 said:
I would just return both rings because I don't think the knife edge wedding band will look very good with anything else. It might work as a spacer band or something, though. I'd start by looking locally for general setting styles, but then come back here to look for a diamond from one of the vendors like WhiteFlash or Good Old Gold, whichever has the style of setting you like.

The only warning I have is that the Tiffany setting is timeless and will never go out of style, but many others will. Do you think that maybe getting one of the Tiffany diamond wedding bands might give you some variety? As far as the height goes, you don't want it set too high or else you'll hit it on things all the time. So do keep that in mind as you look at new settings.
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I've had the wedding band much longer and cannot return it. We were married with only bands. The e ring came later. I can always buy a replacement, but it is sentimental and I intend to keep it regardless.

I see you are near Charlotte. Thoughts on where to start looking? I live in Charlotte.

I think I want to stay similar to the Tiffany setting but a tad higher and possibly a thinner band.
 
mtabh|1331494396|3146383 said:
diamondseeker2006|1331493398|3146372 said:
I would just return both rings because I don't think the knife edge wedding band will look very good with anything else. It might work as a spacer band or something, though. I'd start by looking locally for general setting styles, but then come back here to look for a diamond from one of the vendors like WhiteFlash or Good Old Gold, whichever has the style of setting you like.

The only warning I have is that the Tiffany setting is timeless and will never go out of style, but many others will. Do you think that maybe getting one of the Tiffany diamond wedding bands might give you some variety? As far as the height goes, you don't want it set too high or else you'll hit it on things all the time. So do keep that in mind as you look at new settings.
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I've had the wedding band much longer and cannot return it. We were married with only bands. The e ring came later. I can always buy a replacement, but it is sentimental and I intend to keep it regardless.

I see you are near Charlotte. Thoughts on where to start looking? I live in Charlotte.

I think I want to stay similar to the Tiffany setting but a tad higher and possibly a thinner band.
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Diamonds Direct has the best selection of settings of probably anywhere in the area (or even the state). They have sales a few times a year, but if you find a setting you like, just tell them you want to wait until a sale to buy it and see if they offer you the 20% off right then. I will say that the last time I was there, they had a ton more in white metals, but many can be ordered in yellow gold. I like Karat Patch as far as nice jewelry stores go, but they (and other jewelers) do not have the quantity of settings that Diamonds Direct does. ONE warning, though. You may very well find a setting you want at Diamonds Direct. But I highly recommend telling them you already have a diamond you want to set. Then get the diamond from one of these online vendors (mine are from Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash) and THEN order the setting based on the diameter measurements of the diamond you buy. I actually did that one time because I found my first setting at DD but got the stone from GOG. I'll watch this thread in case you have any further questions!
 
mtabh|1331493054|3146364 said:
Christina...|1331492578|3146353 said:
You do definitely pay more the Tiffany name, that's enough for some people, not so much for others. If you list the specs of your current stone, we can help you find a comparable one. There are so many Tiffany styled settings available, I'm sure that you can find a very similar ring with the height that you are looking for.

ETA James Allen has this knifes edge, it's also available in a 1.5mm. I owned the 2mm and it was quite comfortable.

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/2mm-Knife-Edge-18k-White-Gold-Solitaire-Ring.html
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The stone is .92, VVS2, G. That's all the info I have in my memory bank and I'm not near the gemologist report. DH thinks we can for sure find another stone with as much brilliance for less and get a setting I love. That thought is very attractive.

I love the idea of having a Tiffany ring, but I don't love how the setting looks on my finger.

I saw something called a Royal Crown setting by Vatche but I don't know how that would look with my knife edge band.
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I understand the loving the idea of having a Tiffanys diamond, many people feel the same way, fewer PSers though. For me personally knowing that I can have the exact same quality ring without the name for thousands of dollars less is incentive enough to go without the name brand. It's certainly a personal decision though.

Vatche is beautiful, I've never owned one but have drooled over many PSers rings and the quality is amazing. I agree with DS that you really need to try on a lot of different settings to get an idea of what you are really looking for. Why do you want it to set higher? Some people feel that setting the diamond higher makes the stone look larger, are you hoping for this? If so, you would be able to increase the size of your stone for the same budget of your Tiffanys ring by going with a PS vendor. Or it could be that a higher set stone is just asthetically more pleasing to you. I think it's important though to try a bunch on to determine if it's really a higher set stone that you are looking for.
 
mtabh|1331493054|3146364 said:
Christina...|1331492578|3146353 said:
You do definitely pay more the Tiffany name, that's enough for some people, not so much for others. If you list the specs of your current stone, we can help you find a comparable one. There are so many Tiffany styled settings available, I'm sure that you can find a very similar ring with the height that you are looking for.

ETA James Allen has this knifes edge, it's also available in a 1.5mm. I owned the 2mm and it was quite comfortable.

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/2mm-Knife-Edge-18k-White-Gold-Solitaire-Ring.html
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The stone is .92, VVS2, G. That's all the info I have in my memory bank and I'm not near the gemologist report. DH thinks we can for sure find another stone with as much brilliance for less and get a setting I love. That thought is very attractive.

I love the idea of having a Tiffany ring, but I don't love how the setting looks on my finger.
I saw something called a Royal Crown setting by Vatche but I don't know how that would look with my knife edge band.
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then I would return and search for an ideal stone online and get a setting you love.
 
 
tyty333|1331510985|3146530 said:
I would return it and start over.

Have you seen WF's A Cut Above stones or BGD stones...here are some links
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2724967.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2763507.htm

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.010-g-vs2-round-diamond-ags-104052883009

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8852/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9144/

But like someone else mentioned...figure out what type of setting you like first.
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great suggestions!
 
What are the advantages of buying a stone online vs. in a store like diamonds direct or karat patch? I have also discussed stones with a family run jeweler in my area, curious what buying online offers. Is it generally more bang for your buck or more information available without pressure?
 
I've never used Diamonds Direct but I think that Diamondseeker has and if I'm correct she was happy with them. Buying diamonds online can be rewarding because you tend to be able to buy more with your money. Online vendors don't have the overhead that BM stores do so their inventory is priced accordingly, so you get more bang for your buck online. However, you don't get to physically see the diamond when you shop online unless you use vendors like GOG or James Allen who have actual pictures of the diamonds that you are considering. PS vendors all have a good returns policies as well, so if your not happy with your purchase then you can return the stone. Some have better policies than others. Because you can't actual hold the diamond in your hand and evaluate it's perfermance without actually placing an order it can bevery difficult to select a good stone if you aren't familiar with what makes a diamond a good performer. Lucky for you, you are at one of the best possible places to start an online search. There are so many knowledgable and helpful people here who will be more than happy to help you find a stone that you will love. There are several trades people here as well that will often chime in and offer advice and assistance too. PS also has several tools available to help you determine a diamonds likely light performance. If you feel comfortable and are interested, you can let us know your budget and what you are looking for and we can help you find some more stones. tyty made some great suggestions. Are you looking for something very similar to your Tiffany ring or do you think you want to start all over with a different, carat weight, color clarity? Is the setting the only thing that you want to change?
 
My stone:

Round
Brilliant
Measurements 6.22 - 6.25 x 3.85 mm

.92 Carat
H
VS2
Fluorescence None

Precision of Cut Excellent
Symmetry Excellent
Polish Excellent

Enhancements None

Depth Percentage 61.7%
Table Size Percentage 57%
Crown Height Percentage 14.9%
Crown Angle 35.2 degrees
Star Length Percentage 50%
Pavilion Depth Percentage 43.3%
Pavilion Angle 41.0 degrees
Lower Half Length Percentage 80%
Girdle Thickness Medium to Slightly Thick
Girdle Finish Faceted
Cutlet None








It is actually completely different than I remembered. Anyway - can anyone tell me if this is even a good stone or if I just think it looks nice. I don't know what half of this means.

DH spent 10300 before tax. Based on this stone, what would a comparable non Tiffany stone cost? I'm so clueless.




I found a setting I like. I would like to bump up to a full carat but it isn't necessary. Anywhere between .92 and 1.00 would work for me. We sent 10,300 initially so I don't want to spend so much on the stone that I can't afford a setting. The setting I like at the family owned place was 450. Very similar to the knife edge someone posted earlier.
 
Your current diamond is great! I just know from my own experience and from helping another PS person recently who was trading in a diamond at DD, that they don't carry much of a selection of GIA Ex/Ex/Ex diamonds, and you might overpay as well. You do want to stick with that quality because I think you'll be unhappy otherwise. I'll look and see what the price comps are for the diamond.

You can definitely get up to a carat in a GIA Excellent or AGS Ideal cut stone! here are a couple, but Good Old Gold has some more than may be in your range but the prices are hidden due to the brand requirements. You can check their prices by placing them in the cart and the prices will show. But just to give you an idea, here are a couple:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2683872.htm ($8805 with pricescope/wire discount)

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2762650.htm ($9167 " ")

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9087/ ($9200 with wire discount)

I think my setting may be a little higher than yours and a little thinner (because I have looked at the ones from Tiffany. You cna look on my thread if you want to see what the Vatche one looks like:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/new-1-58-g-vs1-from-gog-in-vatche-u-113-tiffany-repro.171351/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/new-1-58-g-vs1-from-gog-in-vatche-u-113-tiffany-repro.171351/[/URL]
 
I would return that ring in a heart beat and go with another vendor. I have NO doubt that you will be able to find and even better diamond and you will probably be able to go a little bigger. I bought my diamond at Brian Gavin Diamonds and every time I go into Tiffs the sales people grab my hand and look at my diamond and seem to be pretty impressed by it.

Now, that may not really mean much, because frankly, their sales people are not all that knowledgeable. What it does say to me is that it is a diamond that does grab peoples eye. I know it is a nice stone so that is enough for me, but the Tiffany name certainly doesn't guarantee it. Take a chance and try another vendor. Get the diamond home and take it to Tiffs and compare. I think you will be really happy that you did.
 
diamondseeker2006|1331517640|3146593 said:
Your current diamond is great! I just know from my own experience and from helping another PS person recently who was trading in a diamond at DD, that they don't carry much of a selection of GIA Ex/Ex/Ex diamonds. You do want to stick with that quality because I think you'll be unhappy otherwise. I'll look and see what the price comps are for the diamond. Was the setting you looked at platinum? Because I have a Vatche Tiffany replica setting and it was $1840 in platinum.
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The setting I looked at locally was 450. It was 18k yellow gold with a platinum head. I am sure it isn't Vatche, but I'm not sure what the designer was.

I am very open to buying the stone online if it means I will get a better deal than DD. The setting I like thus far wasn't from DD, it's from a family owned place called Lewis Jewelers.
 
I just edited my post to show you some one carat stones in your budget. I also remembered that you were pricing yg with plat head, so I was deleting that, too! So look back up at my last post.
 
Thank you so much for your help, everyone.

This is so overwhelming. I'm very indecisive about the whole ordeal.

The family owned jeweler said a comparable stone to mine was about 4500 bucks. I see now that isn't exactly true based on all these other factors.

Hmmm. I know this, I'm happy with the size and quality of my current stone. I want a similar setting but a tad higher and a little bit of a thinner band. I have thought about nothing else since I got this ring.






How do you all decide what to purchase and what factors are most important?
 
What if you just get a Tiffany replica setting but have them modify it to sit higher and with a thinner band?
 
Well, I will have to say that the Vatche setting is a little higher and definitely thinner than the Tiffany ring. I like it better than the real Tiffany ring.

As far as diamond prices go, you certainly can find a .9 diamond for $4500, but not at the quality of the stone you currently have. I think it is pretty good that you can get a 1.0 carat stone and setting for less than the .9 at Tiffany's because there is a big price jump at 1 carat.

I am unable to find an exact comp to your stone in the virtual inventory (meaning diamond supplier lists with no pictures or information other than the certificate). You can save money if you want to stay under a carat.

http://www.eternitydiamonds.com/diamond_detail.php?id=643570&ref=pricescope
 
diamondseeker2006|1331521829|3146626 said:
Well, I will have to say that the Vatche setting is a little higher and definitely thinner than the Tiffany ring. I like it better than the real Tiffany ring.

As far as diamond prices go, you certainly can find a .9 diamond for $4500, but not at the quality of the stone you currently have. I think it is pretty good that you can get a 1.0 carat stone and setting for less than the .9 at Tiffany's because there is a big price jump at 1 carat.

I am unable to find an exact comp to your stone in the virtual inventory (meaning diamond supplier lists with no pictures or information other than the certificate). You can save money if you want to stay under a carat.

http://www.eternitydiamonds.com/diamond_detail.php?id=643570&ref=pricescope
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Is this a good stone?

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2760187.htm
 
mtabh|1331522139|3146628 said:
diamondseeker2006|1331521829|3146626 said:
Well, I will have to say that the Vatche setting is a little higher and definitely thinner than the Tiffany ring. I like it better than the real Tiffany ring.

As far as diamond prices go, you certainly can find a .9 diamond for $4500, but not at the quality of the stone you currently have. I think it is pretty good that you can get a 1.0 carat stone and setting for less than the .9 at Tiffany's because there is a big price jump at 1 carat.

I am unable to find an exact comp to your stone in the virtual inventory (meaning diamond supplier lists with no pictures or information other than the certificate). You can save money if you want to stay under a carat.

http://www.eternitydiamonds.com/diamond_detail.php?id=643570&ref=pricescope
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Is this a good stone?

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2760187.htm
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Unfortunately, no. That is not a stone that WF actually has. It is just a virtual listing so we know almost nothing about the stone. But I can tell it is too deep which would likely make it face up smaller than a 1 carat stone. So you sort of get what you pay for. Better to stay under a carat with an excellent cut stone than to go over a carat to a lesser cut stone.
 
mtabh|1331520478|3146616 said:
The family owned jeweler said a comparable stone to mine was about 4500 bucks. I see now that isn't exactly true based on all these other factors.


How do you all decide what to purchase and what factors are most important?
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The GIA graded H VS2s in .91-.93 with excellent cuts that I found using the diamond search tool on this forum were all right around $5,000. For $10,300 you could definitely get a carat or more, but if you were happy with the size then that's great and you can stick to the same size. I think you were happy with the color and clarity of your stone too?

How I decide what to purchase when it comes to jewelry is to TRY IT ALL ON! Everything at the store. Every. Single. Thing. Even ones I know I don't like. I note which things I like best and if I'm buying from that store I go try all them on again and narrow it down - if I'm not buying from that store I keep it in mind for buying online. Anyway that's my process. My e-ring was entirely not what I thought I wanted, but it's what I liked best after I'd tried on hundreds of rings, and I adore it, so my process worked for me.

Here are some diamond options-
.96 F Si1, $7,613 - http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8703/
1.01 H VS1, $9,200 - http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9087/
1.01 I Si1, $7,100 - http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9178/

It seems that the sub-carats are slim pickings - with the increases in diamond prices, more people have been going after them to keep costs down.
 
Great suggestions DS.

Seriously go try on everything- only you will know what you love and what looks best on your hand :)
 
Here is where I am at, a stone comparable to mine set in a classic yellow gold six prong knife edge with a platinum head that sits a tad higher. My jeweler has one I love - it isn't a designer name, I'm not sure if he made it or what. I need to ask him that. I am going to add a 2 carat shared prong eternity band in yellow gold and keep my Tiffany knife edge wedding band.

This will give me the classic setting, slightly raised and allow me to keep my wedding band for daily wear with an option to dress it up when I feel like having a lot of sparkle on my finger.

Our jeweler is getting a few more stones for us to look at. Then we will compare the value and such to what is available online as have it set.

I explained what I learned here about being excellent, excellent, excellent and of good proportion and he said hat he would find me a few to look at that will match my criteria at a price we will love.

Thanks to everyone for all the help. Now to drop this terrible ring off at Tiffany! If all goes according to plan, I will come out without having spent an extra dime.
 
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