Disappointing to see yet another important topic thread deleted

[Calliecake]

Can we please try not to have these threads shut down? Can we please just be respectful of each other and not name people or parties so they can remain open?

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[Rockdiamond]

SO much so....and the real disappointment is in seeing how dug in people are.
We're not changing anything by discussing it, but it does feel good to air some of our fears. Then, the good feeling gets hit with reality —and another news story.
Then someone gets mad and purposely brings in topics that are not related, but heated enough to get the thread shut down.
Let's talk puppies and sparklies....while we're enjoying the tea and crumpets on the Titanic.

 

[Bonfire]

Every single time.

 

[Rfisher]

I value reading these discussions. they get derailed, or offense is taken, or someone can’t leave without a hurtful jab at another member nor let a differing opinion be. And sadly they get nuked to be inaccessible.

It is informative reading peoples takes, perspectives and opinions that may or may not differ from my own.
I know where elsewhere to go if I want to read/listen to an echo chamber or circle jerk.

 

[Avondale]

Oh, so the thread about the LA situation is now with the other threads in the hidden admin section of the forum where it gets to play and have fun amid sunshine and rainbows… right?

 

[Demon]

I'm pretty sure I'm the reason it got shut down. I made a sarcastic post about why medicaid was on the chopping bloc, in response to @Rockdiamond 's, but I didn't mention names or parties. Sorry guys, this is why I should only post at my other place. See you later, maybe.

 

[Calliecake]

Did I break a rule by saying our democracy is being threatened? Wait a minute, I was typing that when the thread disappeared. Never mind.

It’s troubling to me how a chosen few, who can’t handle anyone disagreeing with their views, gets threads shot down for everyone.

For many of us here this is a great reprieve for simply saying how we feel. If you can’t handle someone not agreeing with you, stay out of the thread. You know opening it that not everyone feels the same way. State your views on how you view what is happening and move on.

 

[Calliecake]

I'm pretty sure I'm the reason it got shut down. I made a sarcastic post about why medicaid was on the chopping bloc, in response to @Rockdiamond 's, but I didn't mention names or parties. Sorry guys, this is why I should only post at my other place. See you later, maybe.

Please don’t leave @Demon. I sincerely doubt your post had anything to do with the thread being shut down.

 

[Rfisher]

I made a sarcastic post about why medicaid was on the chopping bloc, in response to @Rockdiamond 's, but I didn't mention names or parties.

Ask admin. I’d be curious as to what you’ve outlined here.
I didn’t see your original post.

Comments about policies should be fair game.

 

[Ella]

Folks, it's never just one person that gets a thread shut down. If it's one post, we remove it and if needed, talk to the user about it.

Then it's 5 posts, and even so, we usually remove them by hand, including replies to those posts. Then all of a sudden every other post is breaking the rules. Which means we have to monitor the thread consistently, taking me away from other work. That's when it gets shut down, when too many rules are broken by too many posters.

If you're honest with yourself, you probably know it when you see it. And you probably know it at the time when you post something that's rude or over the line. General nastiness in the thread definitely breaks regular PS rules, and is often a reason these threads get removed.

If you have a spidey sense that your post might have been over the line, it probably did contribute to the thread being shut down and if you want that to not happen in the future, walk away for a minute and rethink before you post something you know is over the line.

 

[Demon]

Folks, it's never just one person that gets a thread shut down. If it's one post, we remove it and if needed, talk to the user about it.

Then it's 5 posts, and even so, we usually remove them by hand, including replies to those posts. Then all of a sudden every other post is breaking the rules. Which means we have to monitor the thread consistently, taking me away from other work. That's when it gets shut down, when too many rules are broken by too many posters.

If you're honest with yourself, you probably know it when you see it. And you probably know it at the time when you post something that's rude or over the line. General nastiness in the thread definitely breaks regular PS rules, and is often a reason these threads get removed.

If you have a spidey sense that your post might have been over the line, it probably did contribute to the thread being shut down and if you want that to not happen in the future, walk away for a minute and rethink before you post something you know is over the line.

With all due respect, Ella, some of these things are pretty subjective. Would someone think my post was rude? Maybe. Would the majority think the post was rude? I doubt it - it was a sarcastic response to another post, and it was not even directed to that person, other than I think they would have agreed with me. I'm not saying for sure it was my post that got that thread shut down, but the timing leads me to think so. I mentioned policy, not people or parties. I can't toe the line when I don't know exactly where it is.

 

[Demon]

Please don’t leave @Demon. I sincerely doubt your post had anything to do with the thread being shut down.

Lol, I just can't. I sit on my hands for page after page, except for the like button, and when I do comment... You know where to find me, and you know who else is there. Stay here, but join us, also!

 

[Demon]

Ask admin. I’d be curious as to what you’ve outlined here.
I didn’t see your original post.

Comments about policies should be fair game.

It was a sarcastic reply about medicaid being targeted to pay for tax cuts.

 

[Ella]

With all due respect, Ella, some of these things are pretty subjective. Would someone think my post was rude? Maybe. Would the majority think the post was rude? I doubt it - it was a sarcastic response to another post, and it was not even directed to that person, other than I think they would have agreed with me. I'm not saying for sure it was my post that got that thread shut down, but the timing leads me to think so. I mentioned policy, not people or parties. I can't toe the line when I don't know exactly where it is.

Again, it is never one post that gets a thread deleted.

It is usually a general evolution towards most posts breaking rules and the general vibe of the thread getting hostile. Rules about politics specifically or general PS rules about how to treat each other are usually both broken by multiple posters. Some things are hard to define, this is one of them. I think we can all feel when a thread starts feeling hostile instead of friendly, that's often when it gets shut down.

If someone posts something egregious, they will receive an email from us about it.

 

[Calliecake]

Lol, I just can't. I sit on my hands for page after page, except for the like button, and when I do comment... You know where to find me, and you know who else is there. Stay here, but join us, also!

I wish I could use both the “Love” and “Laugh” emoji for this post.

 

[telephone89]

I've been very careful not to post much except to dispel the mass amt of misinformation that gets posted. I've been keeping my mouth (fingers) shut except for that, but I think it's important to post facts when people are so intent on manipulating the narrative, but I've not used any party/people names or personal insults. I hope that everyone is able to stick to the facts when discussing these events, but everything is so emotionally charged so it's not entirely surprising.

 

[Lookinagain]

Maybe when someone sees a post that they think is over the line, they can tell the poster who then is free to edit it or remove it. That would need to be done pretty quickly, but it "may" help to keep things on track. Of course, you should be polite when pointing it out and not critical. Say something like "this may violate the rules so perhaps you could reword it to comply"? I'm just trying to think of a way to have these types of threads remain open as I do think hearing perspectives of others is important.

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

SO much so....and the real disappointment is in seeing how dug in people are.
We're not changing anything by discussing it, but it does feel good to air some of our fears. Then, the good feeling gets hit with reality —and another news story.
Then someone gets mad and purposely brings in topics that are not related, but heated enough to get the thread shut down.
Let's talk puppies and sparklies....while we're enjoying the tea and crumpets on the Titanic.

nothing wrong with a crumpet
but yes, you do make a valid point
i do try my very best to stay with in the rules, i often write a post then dont send it

 

[Daisys and Diamonds]

Again, it is never one post that gets a thread deleted.

It is usually a general evolution towards most posts breaking rules and the general vibe of the thread getting hostile. Rules about politics specifically or general PS rules about how to treat each other are usually both broken by multiple posters. Some things are hard to define, this is one of them. I think we can all feel when a thread starts feeling hostile instead of friendly, that's often when it gets shut down.

If someone posts something egregious, they will receive an email from us about it.

i feel there are enough people in real face to face life to argue with, this is my special calm and sparkly space
it cant be easy for you
hard and fast rules probably make it easier
i am sorry if i have been over the line, i try really hard how i word things
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[Calliecake]

Maybe when someone sees a post that they think is over the line, they can tell the poster who then is free to edit it or remove it. That would need to be done pretty quickly, but it "may" help to keep things on track. Of course, you should be polite when pointing it out and not critical. Say something like "this may violate the rules so perhaps you could reword it to comply"? I'm just trying to think of a way to have these types of threads remain open as I do think hearing perspectives of others is important.

I’m for anything that allows these discussions to continue.

If I ever say anything that is incorrect, crossing a line on rules or is snarky, please point it out to me. I would much rather remove something than have a thread get shut down.

We can disagree and still get along. Most of us have learned this in real life. Obviously people want these topics to continue. They are the most active threads.

 

[Matata]

too many rules

LOL Ella, you said it