shape
carat
color
clarity

Did I pick a good diamond and ring combination?

Come on. I recommended WF. He said BN. I said okay and recommended BN stones. Even positively commented on other BN stone recommendations. He asked why I thought WF was better. I told him with a disclaimer the BN stones here seemed like unicorns and could be awesome.

It's his choice to make. I genuinely liked the WF stone and thought it was gorgeous. If he doesn't fine, but I have no horse in the race. I get no commissions, etc. I'm just as happy to evaluate a BN stone as as a WF stone.

I also know that for $400 USD, or GBP 310, the majority of us would jump on a chance to grab a super ideal stone from whomever.

Here's some math. Keep in mind currency exchange rates are fluctuating today. These were good at the time of posting, compliments of Google.

Original budget = GBP 2280, or $2955 USD
Revised budget (post #7) = GBP 2500, or $3235 USD

Total WF Price = $2,098 USD (stone) + $918 USD (plat setting) = $3,016 USD, or GBP 2330

I'm not certain VAT, etc but will assume 20% (posts 14 & 15) = GBP 2330 x 1.20 = GBP 2796, or $3,618 USD

This puts OP about $400 USD, or GBP 310, over budget.

I'm simply saying that ACA isn't for everyone. OP has a budget and wants to maximize it. And great GIA XXX diamonds aren't unicorns. There are tons.

ETA: there is no reason for the OP to stretch the budget for the VAT. BN just makes sense.
 
And so the plot thickens. I didn't mean to cause a ruckus.

The stone from WF looks incredible and I love the setting from BN. with a quick Google of French cut pave, that is the exact style I like.

Currently the diamond we're discussing from BN is £1566 + (£740 price changed but I ordered before that). That puts me at £2300 all in.

Now I do not intend to go above £2500 unless absolutely necessary.

My question would be, if we increase the cost of the diamond from BN to 1800 to give me a 2500 total, is that a quantities difference in quality and does it then begin to match that of the WF diamond. I have no idea.
 
Being on the UK there is also inmport duty of 4% as well as the VAT of 20%.
Also the fx rate for us buying Dollars is terrible at the moment :( for the wire transfer I did today I only got a rate of 1.25
 
OP, I do like the stones @sledge and @farrahlyn recommended. They will look amazing.
 
And so the plot thickens. I didn't mean to cause a ruckus.

The stone from WF looks incredible and I love the setting from BN. with a quick Google of French cut pave, that is the exact style I like.

Currently the diamond we're discussing from BN is £1566 + (£740 price changed but I ordered before that). That puts me at £2300 all in.

Now I do not intend to go above £2500 unless absolutely necessary.

My question would be, if we increase the cost of the diamond from BN to 1800 to give me a 2500 total, is that a quantities difference in quality and does it then begin to match that of the WF diamond. I have no idea.

BN will not let you buy just a setting. They only sell their setting with BN diamonds. (you may already know that, but just putting it out there)... IMO, it is not worth the increase in cost for you to deviate from BN. I don't feel it necessary for you to stretch your budget in order to pay for something you may no even be able to appreciate in a diamond the size you're seeking. I would stick with BN, and if you decide to increase your budget, I would certainly want that extra cash to be appreciated in the diamond. I just don't think WF diamond warrants the additional money it costs, esp in this case.
 
Being on the UK there is also inmport duty of 4% as well as the VAT of 20%.
Also the fx rate for us buying Dollars is terrible at the moment :( for the wire transfer I did today I only got a rate of 1.25

Ahhh I forgot about 4% duty. I should have remembered that given my previous job.
 
All,

I think we have an answer here. I should use BN as previously planned. Though I truly appreictae everyone's input.

I would like to increase my diamond budget to 1800 per my previous post.

Can we find some likely candidates and compare?
 
All,

I think we have an answer here. I should use BN as previously planned. Though I truly appreictae everyone's input.

I would like to increase my diamond budget to 1800 per my previous post.

Can we find some likely candidates and compare?

Sounds like a plan! BN has a huge inventory, so no worries at all there!
 
Sounds like a plan! BN has a huge inventory, so no worries at all there!

Is a small increase in size viable for the additional 200 or so pounds? I am not custom to the sensitivity in price of diamonds on any scale.
 
the WF setting is just a different type of pave. just a quick glance, i think it's bead set pave while the BN one is more of a french cut pave. TBH, i absoluely would not buy the BN setting and have the stone sent from Whiteflash, etc etc etc. BN is great for Int'l buyers because of the VAT issue. Unless you're absolutely set on a super ideal, the BN stone and setting is a really great choice and much more simple in purchasing. The BN stone isn't super ideal but it's a beautiful stone and i guarantee a better cut than a majority (if not all) of your or her friends rings.

Agree with @farrahlyn that it would be way less headache to just order from BN, especially if they have an international division that saves you VAT. Not sure if they will include the duty taxes @Izzy70 noted.

Your call on the super ideal. The stones I've commented on I like and I explained why. Others can confirm or dispute that information with reasoning of their own.


Okay... AGS 0 and AGS 000 are the exact same thing.

And GIA XXX stones that are gorgeous are NOT unicorns, as many GIA XXX stones are also graded AGS 0. I'm not picking on you, @sledge, but I believe your view on diamonds is very slanted, as you tend to keep telling posters that GIA XXX is inferior no matter what. That isn't the case. There are TONS of GIA XXX diamonds that would be graded AGS 000, the only difference is GIA doesn't grade for light performance like AGS, so the GIA graded stones take a bit more sifting through and vetting. I swear I'm not picking on you, but I really wish you would stop acting as if AGS 0 and superideals are the only way and everything else is crap. Did you know that the majority of ppl can't tell the difference in a superideal from a non-branded stone at all? It's true.

AGS0 and AGS000 are not the exact same.
  • AGS0 implies only ideal cut (0)
  • AGS000 implies ideal cut (0) + ideal polish (0) + ideal symmetry (0)
I know you are going to love this since it's a WF link, but it doesn't discount the value of the education:

https://www.whiteflash.com/about-diamonds/diamond-education/what-is-an-ags-000.htm

I am sorry if any of this offended you. That was not the intent. The reality is you have to work harder to find good GIA XXX's. It's much easier with AGS0 and AGS000's.

With WF, BGD, HPD, VC, etc. you have quality stones with imaging of all sorts available to help you make a good decision. My main gripe I have with virtual inventory dealers is most expect you to lay down large chunks of money blindly. When you request additional info & imaging it's a 50/50 shot rather you get it or not. It doesn't mean you can't buy the stone, but you have to be prepared for the hassle of returning the stone, etc

I would agree SOME of GIA XXX stones could obtain an AGS0 or AGS000 certification, but certainly not the majority. This is painfully obvious when someone is searching virtual inventory and we keep rejecting stone after stone because of piss poor angle combos. You've been here much longer than me and should have seen this way more often. Steep & deep is the term used, and often done to push stones to magic carat weights as it's more profitable to sell a mediocre stone than a well cut stone at lower weight that doesn't hit price premiums for those magic weights.


I'm simply saying that ACA isn't for everyone. OP has a budget and wants to maximize it. And great GIA XXX diamonds aren't unicorns. There are tons.

LOL, I don't even own an ACA. Remember, mine is BGD. Well my girls is, lol. But yes, I get your point. And I agree with that point. You have a XXX from what I recall and I love your stone. An eye clean SI2 also IIRC, which is a unicorn.

So yes, they exist. Tons? Ugh. I don't necessarily agree. I do agree there is a larger selection of GIA stones, good & bad, to choose from so maybe by default you start with a larger pool and then reduce for ideal proportions and you end up with tons. I don't know. I haven't compiled any data on that aspect.
 
Is a small increase in size viable for the additional 200 or so pounds? I am not custom to the sensitivity in price of diamonds on any scale.

I've been searching through BN's inventory, and honestly, I don't think so. I'm not finding any that would be noticeably larger than those that @farrahlyn and @sledge posted previously... so in this case, I'd save my cash!
 
Is a small increase in size viable for the additional 200 or so pounds? I am not custom to the sensitivity in price of diamonds on any scale.

TBH, it's not a huge difference. I found you this one but it's a small size increase.

https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab

this might help determine if it's worth the price difference. .61 on the left and .66 on the right. on a 1.8mm band, size 6 finger.there's only about 4% more top surface area on the .66.
.61vs.66.JPG
 
TBH, it's not a huge difference. I found you this one but it's a small size increase.

https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab

this might help determine if it's worth the price difference. .61 on the left and .66 on the right. on a 1.8mm band, size 6 finger.there's only about 4% more top surface area on the .66.
.61vs.66.JPG

Thanks for that! And @msop04

Her finger size is N to her disappointment and my humour.

OK so being a stickler for detail.

The first diamond shown is amazing. Keeping with the same size can I improve some of the attributes with my small bit of extra cash?
 
I suggest you might just order the diamond from a US supplier and then have it locally set using the BN setting as a price point with a good UK jeweler.
 
AGS0 and AGS000 are not the exact same.
  • AGS0 implies only ideal cut (0)
  • AGS000 implies ideal cut (0) + ideal polish (0) + ideal symmetry (0)
I
Agree with @farrahlyn that it would be way less headache to just order from BN, especially if they have an international division that saves you VAT. Not sure if they will include the duty taxes @Izzy70 noted.

Your call on the super ideal. The stones I've commented on I like and I explained why. Others can confirm or dispute that information with reasoning of their own.




AGS0 and AGS000 are not the exact same.
  • AGS0 implies only ideal cut (0)
  • AGS000 implies ideal cut (0) + ideal polish (0) + ideal symmetry (0)
This used to be the case, but now AGS 000 and AGS 0 are used interchangeably.


I know you are going to love this since it's a WF link, but it doesn't discount the value of the education:

https://www.whiteflash.com/about-diamonds/diamond-education/what-is-an-ags-000.htm

I am sorry if any of this offended you. That was not the intent. The reality is you have to work harder to find good GIA XXX's. It's much easier with AGS0 and AGS000's.

I'm not offended at all! :) I just don't want anyone to think they are getting a second class stone in a GIA XXX... in all reality, even a not-so-great GIA XXX will be better than the majority of stones ppl have in an engagement ring. My point was that superideals are great, the best cut you can get even... BUT when there is a budget in play and the person would like a larger stone for the money, sometimes the premium paid for superideals isn't worth it to the intended wearer. Many times, she'd rather rock a noticeably larger rock that is still a great performer (but not branded). Most ppl notice size first, then color, then cut/clarity. I'm a size ho, so I know I'd be reeeeeaaallllly tick if my boyfriend got a smaller superideal when he could've paid the same for a larger stone that was amazing... just not branded.

With WF, BGD, HPD, VC, etc. you have quality stones with imaging of all sorts available to help you make a good decision. My main gripe I have with virtual inventory dealers is most expect you to lay down large chunks of money blindly. When you request additional info & imaging it's a 50/50 shot rather you get it or not. It doesn't mean you can't buy the stone, but you have to be prepared for the hassle of returning the stone, etc

Although these do help tremendously, some veteran PS members don't necessarily need all of that to know if a stone will perform. I agree that those brands allow you to buy blind, but there is a premium for that. Everyone is different. When someone posts wanting the biggest best diamond we can find and they're on a tight budget, that is where PS is great. You don't have to buy blind here. There are members to help you find an amazing stone that you may have passed on bc you didn't know what makes a diamond a great performer. That's where we come in. IMO, there is no sense in eating up a budget on ACA when it's pretty easy to pick an amazingly cut diamond without the branding.

I would agree SOME of GIA XXX stones could obtain an AGS0 or AGS000 certification, but certainly not the majority. This is painfully obvious when someone is searching virtual inventory and we keep rejecting stone after stone because of piss poor angle combos. You've been here much longer than me and should have seen this way more often. Steep & deep is the term used, and often done to push stones to magic carat weights as it's more profitable to sell a mediocre stone than a well cut stone at lower weight that doesn't hit price premiums for those magic weights.

Agreed, most definitely not the majority of them would be graded AGS 0... not even close. But when you can weed out the "not so good" ones because you know what to look for (table and depth) and can find complimentary angles, then it becomes much easier to spot a well cut stone. I've seen the steep/deep and flattop combos a million times... and I don't recommend them.

LOL, I don't even own an ACA. Remember, mine is BGD. Well my girls is, lol. But yes, I get your point. And I agree with that point. You have a XXX from what I recall and I love your stone. An eye clean SI2 also IIRC, which is a unicorn.

Yes, mine is a unicorn, but I was able to see it in person. I wouldn't recommend a stone similar to mine unless it could be vetted. Never sight unseen (no photos/vids/etc). If I had it to do over, I would've picked the same one given my budget and availability of stones with my vendor. However, if I ever do upgrade, I will certainly consider a higher clarity and more "traditional" specs as far as cut... as long as I don't have to go down in size. ;-)

So yes, they exist. Tons? Ugh. I don't necessarily agree. I do agree there is a larger selection of GIA stones, good & bad, to choose from so maybe by default you start with a larger pool and then reduce for ideal proportions and you end up with tons. I don't know. I haven't compiled any data on that aspect.

Maybe not TONS, but we a lot. I have no scientific evidence of this, of course... only my experience searching inventories in the years I've been here, always learning. PS know what to look for and can quickly and easily weed out the "okays" and "not so good" ones, so maybe that makes it seem like there are a lot? Hmmmm...

https://www.whiteflash.com/about-diamonds/diamond-education/what-is-an-ags-000.htm

** Responses in blue located in the body of last post ** ;)

I think we agree on the fundamentals here... I just don't want a buyer to overlook lots of really great diamonds because they think GIA XXX is subpar. It makes me crazy when someone comes to PS with a tight budget and superideals and hand forged settings are recommended. Unless the buyer is dead set on either, it just doesn't make sense... and the vast majority are here bc they don't really know a lot and trust us to help them spend a lot of money on a very important gift. That's a huge responsibility, so I want them to know all options. At the end of the day, it's the intended wearer who needs to be happy. If she's indicated she values a superideal, then that is certainly considered... if she is super color sensitive and knows it must be at least a G, then it needs to be a G... if she wants the biggest, sparkliest diamond the budget allows, then you know where I'm going with this. :)
 
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Thanks for that! And @msop04

Her finger size is N to her disappointment and my humour.

OK so being a stickler for detail.

The first diamond shown is amazing. Keeping with the same size can I improve some of the attributes with my small bit of extra cash?

Well, that really depends on what you would consider an "improvement" and what amount of cash you consider "small" - not the answer you were looking for, but that's the truth. ;)

If anything, you may try to go up one grade for color... eye clean is eye clean, so I wouldn't spend money on something you can't see. Then there is size... but to be able to notice a difference, it would likely take more than a small amount more to the budget.
 
BN will not let you buy just a setting. They only sell their setting with BN diamonds. (you may already know that, but just putting it out there)...

He already checked with BN and they said they WOULD sell the setting only, but they would only ship to the US, which is what started the whole ship to WF if you go with their stone hoopla.


Thanks for that! And @msop04

Her finger size is N to her disappointment and my humour.

OK so being a stickler for detail.

The first diamond shown is amazing. Keeping with the same size can I improve some of the attributes with my small bit of extra cash?

For the US people....UK size N = US 6.75

We've talked so many stones at this point -- can you hyperlink to the "first stone"? Is it the one we talked about that @farrahlyn found and we both liked because of 55 table & 34.5/40.8 angle combo with 75 LGF (fat arrows)?

Anyhow, searching BN I didn't see anything of significant size difference. I saw the same 0.66ct that @farrahlyn already posted a second ago.

FYI, I know people get hung up on carat weight but in round diamonds, carat weight is derived by using the following formula:

length (L) x width (W) x depth (D) x 0.061 = carat weight

I mention this because L & W is what we "see", especially in the diagram posted earlier by @farrahlyn. So when carat weight increases, all three dimensions grow in size. This is why a 1 carat stone doesn't MEASURE twice as big as a 1/2 carat stone. It may weigh twice as much, but the L & W dimensions will not be double, since part of the weight is "hidden" in the depth.

All that said, it takes about 0.20mm difference for the (normal) human eye to see a size difference in the L & W dimensions. And then that is only 1/128th of an inch!

My point in all this is that visually, a 0.61ct will look identical to a 0.66ct to most people as there is only about 0.10mm difference (1/256th of an inch) and so it's not detectable to most people unless you are zoomed in, comparing side by side, etc. It's not a MEMORABLE difference for certain that would make anyone walk away and go "wow, that 0.66ct was sooo much bigger".

Where you might be able to SEE some difference is color. Earlier we touched on this. While size doesn't increase much here are a few more that help get a little more color while sacrificing a little clarity. All have reasonably good angles, etc that should work. Again, IS and ASET images would confirm, if available.

0.64 G SI1 (55 table, 34.5/40.8 angle combo, 75 LGF, concerned about being eye clean - black inclusions on table)
https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond-details/LD10659606

0.63ct G SI1 (55 table, 34.5/40.6 angle combo, 80 LGF so not as fat arrows, verify eye clean - appears to have lots of twinning whisps or feathers on outside edges)
https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond-details/LD10812149

0.62ct H VS2 (56 table, 35/40.6 angle combo, 75 LGF)
https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond-details/LD10751421

Don't forget about the two stones @TreeScientist recommended earlier as well. It gave you some good color bumps and looked good overall.
 
He already checked with BN and they said they WOULD sell the setting only, but they would only ship to the US, which is what started the whole ship to WF if you go with their stone hoopla.

Good grief... I missed that. They must have changed their policy in the last 2 years, as I inquired about the Petite Nouveau solitaire setting before I decided to go with CVB. Good stuff! I'm glad they'll do that now.
 

It could work. HCA is 1.5, which is good. It lands in ideal on the AGS chart and only has 1 or 2 excellent boxes when I draw the bigger box to help account for GIA rounding/averaging.


If I were buying and NOT color sensitive then one of these would be my choice. FYI, both have HCA scores of 1.3:

Below are some of the stones @farrahlyn recommended that I like. Reasoning, etc below.

https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab

Like the small table (55) and complimentary CA/PA combo of 34.5 & 40.8. Short LGF's (75) means fat arrows. XXX stone with good VS2 clarity. Probably no issues, but should verify it's eye clean. On proportions charts, put you deep into ideal territory so even if funky GIA rounding & averaging of values, it should keep you in the ideal range.

I'd put on hold and request ASET & IS images.

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Here is one that hasn't been presented yet. Small 55 table and same CA/PA combo as other two I liked above.

https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond-details/LD10828409


If I was color sensitive then one these would be my choice (probably the E). HCA 1.3 on E and HCA 1.4 on H:

I personally like these two within your budget from Blue Nile:

E/SI1. I would personally recommend this one if you're OK with the SI1 clarity grade. The diamond appears to be completely eye clean, so I would rather pay for something that is noticeable (color) rather than something that isn't (clarity).
https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab

H/VS2. Also a decent, well-cut option, if you must have the VS clarity grade.
https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab

I like both these stones. Proportions charts attached. I'd like to see a smaller table as that will give you more quick dispersion of fire as opposed to the 57 table but it's certainly not "bad" by any stretch. It's just a preference. Of course, if you are color sensitive getting an E color may have a much more visible difference/preference to you.

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@Fortuitous_Salamander, I have to agree that all the stones listed will look the same size. They all have VERY similar specs as well.

1790.40
0.62ct H VS2 (56 table, 35/40.6 angle combo, 75 LGF)

https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond-details/LD10751421
This one is my all around favorite. It's super white at G and is very clean. The only "con" is the price, as it's the 2nd most expensive one on this list.

1594.80
0.61 I VVS2 (56 table, 35/40.8 angle combo, 75 LGF)

https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab
This one is my second choice. It's clean and looks lovely. The only "con" is that it's an I, which isn't a big deal, as it will look white.

1770.00
0.63ct G SI1 (55 table, 34.5/40.6 angle combo, 80 LGF so not as fat arrows, verify eye clean - appears to have lots of twinning whisps or feathers on outside edges)

https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond-details/LD10812149
This one is sorta "meh" for me... it's fine, but just doesn't look as crisp as the others, and it's expensive. So I'd say NO for this one.

1795.20
0.64 G SI1 (55 table, 34.5/40.8 angle combo, 75 LGF, concerned about being eye clean - black inclusions on table)

https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond-details/LD10659606
This is my least favorite bc I worry it won't be clean, as @sledge mentioned. It's also the most expensive, which is a hard NO for me on this stone.

 
It's either 1 or 2.

I'm not sure the extra money is worth it for a colour change I am not sure she or I will be able to see. That is my opinion from everything I have read / seen and you guys have told me. I'll have a think while I wait in the cue to work to chat with them.
 
It's either 1 or 2.

I'm not sure the extra money is worth it for a colour change I am not sure she or I will be able to see. That is my opinion from everything I have read / seen and you guys have told me. I'll have a think while I wait in the cue to work to chat with them.

Not being picky, but which 1 or 2? LOL, we have so many lists going here.

If you aren't color sensitive then I do like the I's with higher clarity. That's mostly my own preference as I struggle with stones being "mind clean" which means I like to see as little as possible on the cert. Also, while lower clarity stones can be eye clean and certainly not bad -- inclusions can and do impact light performance, so it makes buying lower clarity stones more risky IMO when purchasing through virtual inventory where they are not vetted.
 
Not being picky, but which 1 or 2? LOL, we have so many lists going here.

If you aren't color sensitive then I do like the I's with higher clarity. That's mostly my own preference as I struggle with stones being "mind clean" which means I like to see as little as possible on the cert. Also, while lower clarity stones can be eye clean and certainly not bad -- inclusions can and do impact light performance, so it makes buying lower clarity stones more risky IMO when purchasing through virtual inventory where they are not vetted.

@Fortuitous_Salamander, did you mean my list or the one sledge posted?
 
Not being picky, but which 1 or 2? LOL, we have so many lists going here.

If you aren't color sensitive then I do like the I's with higher clarity. That's mostly my own preference as I struggle with stones being "mind clean" which means I like to see as little as possible on the cert. Also, while lower clarity stones can be eye clean and certainly not bad -- inclusions can and do impact light performance, so it makes buying lower clarity stones more risky IMO when purchasing through virtual inventory where they are not vetted.

I have to agree with @sledge on this one. For the money, I'd go with the I/VVS2. It will be white, and you won't have to stretch the budget. Win-win.
 
I wouldn't pay the extra for the G... that I is CRISP and BRIGHT!
 
The lists have got a little out of hand. My bad for not referencing.

@msop04 I was referring to post #51.

I am leaning to Number 2 (on #51) as I struggle to see colour even on side by side picture comparisons and I think my partner will likely be the same. Clarity on the otherhand I feel I want the best from. Though this is based on my thoughts rather than any real experience.

To your last post... It's done, we're going with Number 2 (The I Colour)
 
The lists have got a little out of hand. My bad for not referencing.

@msop04 I was referring to post #51.

I am leaning to Number 2 (on #51) as I struggle to see colour even on side by side picture comparisons and I think my partner will likely be the same. Clarity on the otherhand I feel I want the best from. Though this is based on my thoughts rather than any real experience.

To your last post... It's done, we're going with Number 2 (The I Colour)

YAAAAYYYY!!!! I think she'll love it! Congrats!!
 
The lists have got a little out of hand. My bad for not referencing.

@msop04 I was referring to post #51.

I am leaning to Number 2 (on #51) as I struggle to see colour even on side by side picture comparisons and I think my partner will likely be the same. Clarity on the otherhand I feel I want the best from. Though this is based on my thoughts rather than any real experience.

To your last post... It's done, we're going with Number 2 (The I Colour)

This is the one, right? This was one of my finds and as already noted I think it's a great choice.

0.61ct I VVS2, GBP 1566 (56 table, 35/40.8 angle combo)
https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond-details/LD09057903

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That said, this was also another one of my choices and has a slightly smaller table which is more preferable, and even more preferred angle combo. Between these two stones, I think you may be happier with this one. Also, I think this is why you see a slightly higher cost for less carat weight.

0.60ct I VVS2, GBP 1655 (55 table, 34.5/40.8 angle combo)
https://www.bluenile.com/uk/diamond-details/LD10828409

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Regardless, both are excellent choices and I think you've chosen well. I can't wait to see actual pictures of it all.
 
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After all that I have now changed my order.

So I went with this one which I felt to be the best compromise.

Thank you all. I'll be sure to post photos on it's arrival.

0.61ct I VVS2, GBP 1566 (56 table, 35/40.8 angle combo)

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