Diamond Question (HCA 1.7)

[monkeyman90]

Hi everyone, I'm strongly considering the below diamond. I'm a little concerned about the steep crown and the depth. The stone did well enough in HCA but wanted to see if I'm potentially missing anything:

Carat weight: 1.03
Color: D
Clarity: VVS2
Fluorescence: Medium Blue
Shape: Round Brilliant
Cut: GIA Ideal
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Table: 57%
Depth: 62.2%
Crown: 35.0*
Pavilion: 40.8*
Star Length: 45%
Lower Girdle: 75%
Girdle: Medium-Slightly Thick (4.0%)
Culet: None
HCA: 1.7

I know it's somewhat limited without Idealscope but any help would be appreciated!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

The crown angle is not too steep and the depth is under 62.3, so there are no concerns with the numbers. Can you get a photo or video of the stone if an idealscope image isn't possible?

 

[monkeyman90]

Here's a picture of it--I can try to find video. One thing I noticed is the table is more squared than I've seen on other stones, don't know if that's an issue or doesn't matter? Also, medium fluorescence shouldn't cause milkiness, correct?

 

[OoohShiny]

Fluor is unlikely to create any issues in anything under Strong or Very Strong, and even then it's rare, AIUI.

Just to ask, do you require/desire D and VvS for cultural reasons? You could probably drop to F and VS1 and look the same to the naked eye, meaning you could increase carat weight or buy a 'SuperIdeal' cut from one of the PS-recommended vendors

 

[monkeyman90]

Fluor is unlikely to create any issues in anything under Strong or Very Strong, and even then it's rare, AIUI.

Just to ask, do you require/desire D and VvS for cultural reasons? You could probably drop to F and VS1 and look the same to the naked eye, meaning you could increase carat weight or buy a 'SuperIdeal' cut from one of the PS-recommended vendors

I actually was looking for anything G/VS1 and above with good specs (table 54-57, depth 61-62.5, etc.) and narrowed it down that way. Eventually I was deciding between a few stones and this one was comparable in price to others with lower color/clarity so I'm leaning this way (pending what I hear in this thread of course!).

 

[OoohShiny]

If you are able/happy to let us know your budget, we can help look for options

 

[monkeyman90]

If you are able/happy to let us know your budget, we can help look for options

Sure! I'm looking to spend ~$8200 or less for the stone (lower is better of course and my current benchmark is $7700). Looking for (ideally) F+, VS1+, 1 carat+. Would potentially go down to G color but preference is colorless if possible in that price range.

Thanks!

 

[OoohShiny]

A few WF ACA and HPD/CBI options that might be of interest! Also check out in-house stones at Brian Gavin Diamonds, and James Allen, although JA will require a bit more work to find a good one as you'll need to run the HCA tool on ones that look like they suit

1.007 G VS1
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3929342.htm

1.05 G VS1
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3935930.htm

1.005 F SI1
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3929345.htm

0.902 F VVS2
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3833732.htm

1.11 H VS1
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3935928.htm

0.923 F VS1 (Expert Selection, so almost as good as ACA but didn't quite make the grade!)
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2231267.htm


1.05 G VS2
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD8386

1.06 H VS1
https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD7904


Those are all 'Super-Ideal', or close to it, and it looks like you will struggle to hit F, VS1 and 1ct within or near your budget unless you drop to a PS-approved GIA XXX through JA, I reckon!

 

[monkeyman90]

Thanks so much for your help!