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fatsushi

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Hi all,

I''m about to pull the trigger on a diamond, but I wanted your valuable opinion first. On paper, everything seems good, but I''m a little concerned about the idealscope image. It appears to have two extra dark areas and a white area between two of the black arrows. Perhaps this is an extra facet? Any thoughts about whether or not I should be concerned about this? Does it seem like a decent deal price-wise? Any thoughts or replies would be greatly appreciated. Happy new year!

Just wanted your opinion on a diamondShape: Round
Carat weight: 1.02
Cut: Signature Ideal
Color: H
Clarity: SI1
Certificate: AGS

Depth: 61.8%
Table: 56%
Polish: Ideal
Symmetry: Ideal
Girdle 0.9-2.0
Culet: Pointed
Fluorescence: None

Measurements: 6.41*6.47*3.98
Crown Angle: 34.6°
Crown %: 15.3
Pavillion Angle: 40.7°
Pavillion %: 43
HCA score: 1.1

asking price: $5200

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ouch couple badly cut facets trashing an otherwise nice diamond.
Id want a discount over super-ideals on it.
dont have time to check the price.
If top cut is a goal keep looking.
 
thanks, strmrdr.

any other thoughts out there?
 
i think Storms advice is quite fair
 
Thanks very much for the reply, Garry.

So, is this actually the result of an extra facet? That was just a guess on my part. Do you think this will affect the fire or brilliance of the diamond at all?

thanks very much!
 
no not an extra facet.
A couple facets are not cut right.
Yes it will affect the appearance of the diamond in my opinion.
Its a big enough problem to be eye visible.
 
Thanks so much, Strmdr.

what is the discount you are referring to??
 
I was looking at this stone too :) Just spoke with them though and the stone was sold yesterday ( i guess they saw these posts and knew what a deal it was). Turns out that the facet had a strange angle to it, but the lighting it was in amplified it and made it look worse than it was, and the stone was 100% eye-clean, you could not see this strange angle with the naked eye. Goes to show you that if you think you''ve found a good deal, talk to the source and make your decision quickly. Looks like both of us let a good one go :)
 
Date: 1/4/2006 2:24:53 AM
Author: fatsushi
Thanks so much, Strmdr.


what is the discount you are referring to??

When you mention PS to WF you get a discount.
If you use the PS search by cut database it lists the discount price.
 
Date: 1/4/2006 10:59:36 AM
Author: furstwinhall
I was looking at this stone too :) Just spoke with them though and the stone was sold yesterday ( i guess they saw these posts and knew what a deal it was). Turns out that the facet had a strange angle to it, but the lighting it was in amplified it and made it look worse than it was, and the stone was 100% eye-clean, you could not see this strange angle with the naked eye. Goes to show you that if you think you've found a good deal, talk to the source and make your decision quickly. Looks like both of us let a good one go :)

it may have looked nice but it isnt a super-ideal and it was at near the super-ideal price point.
Under some conditions im fairly confident there would be eye visible differences.
At a $500 discount off the super-ideal price id consider it.
ie: whiteflash ES price level.
 
Turns out that the stone became available last week. Someone bought it, and then when they priced out the setting they couldn''t afford this stone. I purchased it as I had an eye on it for a while. I figured that if it didn''t look perfect, then I''d send it back. I got it today and have looked at it at some many different angles, lighting conditions etc. that I''m going to make myself crazy
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I''ve got to hand this one to Jim at James Allen, he told me the stone is clean, and let me tell you that not only is it clean, it''s unbelievable
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That slight deviation you saw in the idealscope is in no way visible, and I would account it to an anomoly in the lighting conditions. Regardless of the cause, the bottom line is that this stone is Fantastic, and I couldn''t be happier.
 
congrates, dont forget pictures
 
It''s still loose, I haven''t decided on a setting yet! Do you still want pics of it loose? By the way, any ideas on how to get the diamond to "stand up" so that I can use the idealscope to see arrows? Thanks Guys.
 
Here''s a pic of the loose stone, any ideas on how to get the image to be more clear? What do think?
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