Diamond Newbie Question

[Skinney]

Whats your thoughts on this:
GIA Report # 5216480624
Measurements ................................ 7.75 x 5.81 x 3.56 mm
Color Grade .......................................................................... F
Clarity Grade .................................................................... VS2
Polish ...................................................................... Excellent
Symmetry .............................................................. Excellent
Fluorescence ................................................................. Faint

Any reason to be worried that the report is over 2 years old or that the fluorescence is faint? Thanks for the input.

 

[tyty333]

Unfortunately Skinney reports dont tell us enough about fancy cut stones. Do you have the stone on hold? Can you provide a link to it
so we can have a better look?

No worries about Faint Fluorescence.

 

[Skinney]

No, its at a local shop that's a couple of hours away. They just found it for me but i haven't actually seen it.

 

[rockysalamander]

Unless they can prove otherwise, I assume a 2 year old report is likely a diamond that was traded in adn not sent back for re-grading. Some huge percentage of diamonds on the open market are trade-ins, but I would not want to buy one that has not be re-graded. Small dings and such can occur with normal wear.

Do you want to share your budget and wants and see if our fancy loving PS members can find you a few good ones?

 

[TreeScientist]

Unless they can prove otherwise, I assume a 2 year old report is likely a diamond that was traded in adn not sent back for re-grading. Some huge percentage of diamonds on the open market are trade-ins, but I would not want to buy one that has not be re-graded. Small dings and such can occur with normal wear.

Do you want to share your budget and wants and see if our fancy loving PS members can find you a few good ones?

Well, I wouldn't say this is necessarily the case for a small local jeweler, as they usually have lower turnover and can sometimes sit on a stone for a year or two. If it was one of the online retailers with quick turnover like James Allen or Blue Nile then I would definitely say that it was a trade-in, but can't make that conclusion in this situation.

As @tyty333 said though, we really can't say anything about the quality of a fancy shape diamond without seeing a video and/or ASET image. Polish and Symmetry don't really say anything about the cut of the diamond and it's light performance, and GIA only assigns cut grades to round brilliants. If you provide a budget and the shape you're looking at (I assume emerald, oval, or elongated cushion?), then others on this forum may be able to find you a better deal on a well-cut fancy shape from an online vendor.

If you're set on this particular store, then go and see the diamond in person. Your eye will probably be the best judge in this situation. But be sure to take it out of the jewelry store and view it in normal, everyday lighting. Jewelry store lighting is designed to make EVERY diamond look amazing, even poorly cut ones.

 

[Lorelei]

Hi Skinney,

As it's a fancy shape I'm not too worried about the age of the report, these more than rounds can sometimes take a while to find a home. Ask the store what the deal is and if they've had it since grading or if it's been traded in, but I'd imagine that they've had it since then.

As Tree says, if you like it see if you can check it out away from the bright store lighting as that is designed to even make frozen mucous sparkle, and you want to make sure you enjoy the look of the stone in every day lighting conditions.

 

[Durham Rose]

Well, I wouldn't say this is necessarily the case for a small local jeweler, as they usually have lower turnover and can sometimes sit on a stone for a year or two. If it was one of the online retailers with quick turnover like James Allen or Blue Nile then I would definitely say that it was a trade-in, but can't make that conclusion in this situation.

As @tyty333 said though, we really can't say anything about the quality of a fancy shape diamond without seeing a video and/or ASET image. Polish and Symmetry don't really say anything about the cut of the diamond and it's light performance, and GIA only assigns cut grades to round brilliants. If you provide a budget and the shape you're looking at (I assume emerald, oval, or elongated cushion?), then others on this forum may be able to find you a better deal on a well-cut fancy shape from an online vendor.

If you're set on this particular store, then go and see the diamond in person. Your eye will probably be the best judge in this situation. But be sure to take it out of the jewelry store and view it in normal, everyday lighting. Jewelry store lighting is designed to make EVERY diamond look amazing, even poorly cut ones.

This is good input. I especially echo two things @TreeScientist mentioned.

First, you can find many reports that are two years and older, especially as this is a fancy shape and must really be seen in person to sell. Just ask the jeweller why the report isn’t newer and see what they say.

Second, do look at the diamond in person. Also ask your jeweller directly, and go examine, what kind of bowtie it may have. The bowtie in shapes like this one is a dark shadowy area that results from blockage of light by the viewer. It’s practically unavoidable, but some ovals will have smaller bowties than others. Oh, and it is likely a stretch, but you may also inquire of the jeweller whether they have an ASET. If so, an image taken in their ASET viewer and emailed to you would be quite helpful for those here who are trying to help you long distance.

- Melissa

 

[sledge]

Link to GIA report for ease....
https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=5216480624

I don't know much about ovals so I will dip out of this convo; however, looking on rarecarat.com I can see there are quite a few 1ct +/- ovals in the $4,800 or less range with colors D-G, VS2-VVS1, Ex+ cut.

I would just echo @rockysalamander original concern this MIGHT be used. Do some research. Maybe it is just slow inventory due to fancy shape and being a small jeweler, but either way you should know.

If used, you need to determine if that's okay with you. I've seen that go both ways. The ones that don't like it tend to argue that not every trade-in is a "happy trade-up". Sometimes it's a divorce, etc. and they are using the existing ring to prop them to the next level with the new marriage. Weird way to look at it, but it's a reality. Others that support it either tend to think they are all happy upgrades, or it doesn't bother them either way.