Diamond Guru Needed (Please and Thank you!!)

[Niel]

you arent a bother at all!! radiants just arent as easy as other cuts.


I tend to agree she wants square i say go with an easier square to pick, like a princess or asscher. I tend to think asscher just because they would match your setting, but a princess would be easiest.

 

[JulieN]

I would ask GOG to make inquiries into this stone, if it is a square "hearts and arrows" style radiant: http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-2879017-0.73-carat-Radiant-diamond-F-color-VS1-Clarity.aspx?sku=2879017&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

 

[Niel]

i know its on the higher end but would this fall into your budget??
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10156/

 

[tblanke]

The F is nicer than the other three, IMO.

I feel like you will be better served by an ideal cut princess that GOG gives a lifetime guarantee to. No trade-in policy for stones with limited guarantees. The F is not any bigger than many ideal cut .7 ct princess, and the princess will look better.

Yeah I went ahead and reserved the F, because it appeared to be the best of the three. It's the pointy corners that she doesn't like in the princess diamonds, but that lifetime guarantee you mentioned is very intriguing. I didn't realize the other stones had the limited guarantees.

 

[tblanke]

you arent a bother at all!! radiants just arent as easy as other cuts.


I tend to agree she wants square i say go with an easier square to pick, like a princess or asscher. I tend to think asscher just because they would match your setting, but a princess would be easiest.

lol I think I learned the hard way about the radiant's! I know I probably sound like a broken recorder, but I can't remember who I told what in this thread so sorry if I keep repeating myself! She originally loved the princess diamonds, but didn't like how pointy the corners were, so when a jeweler showed her the radiant's it was the best of both! The asscher and cushion were to much of a vintage look for her (even though they would probably match the setting better lol). Thanks again Niel for all of your help!

 

[tblanke]

I would ask GOG to make inquiries into this stone, if it is a square "hearts and arrows" style radiant: http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-2879017-0.73-carat-Radiant-diamond-F-color-VS1-Clarity.aspx?sku=2879017&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Even though I already have the .8 F on reserve I will see if they can have this stone checked out to see if it would be a better fit for me. I only plan on buying one engagement ring and am looking for the best value.

Thanks Julie!

 

[tblanke]

i know its on the higher end but would this fall into your budget??
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10156/

That diamond would bring me to the high end of my budget, but if you think this would be a better value I am open to suggestions. If you could justify the additional $600 to upgrade to this radiant over the .8 F I am willing to consider it.

I see it is classified as a Princess of Hearts (not 100% sure what that means) and has the lifetime guarantee. But it also looks like it has a 1.15 (rectangular) ratio. Which kind of puts me back to where I started on the first batch lol.

Thanks again for all your help Niel!

And to all of the Fathers out there have a Happy Fathers Day weekend!!

*Edit*: Not 100% sure about the l/w ratio on the one you linked the report says 1.0 ratio (5.15/5.14), but on the scroll down side it says 5.16/5.99..so I don't know. If it the report is accurate I think it would be very hard to pass this one up.

 

[JulieN]

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10036/

In budget. No sharp corners. Very square sides, basically as square as possible and still be a cushion. Modern (not vintage/antique) style. Lifetime guarantee.

 

[Niel]

i know its on the higher end but would this fall into your budget??
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10156/

That diamond would bring me to the high end of my budget, but if you think this would be a better value I am open to suggestions. If you could justify the additional $600 to upgrade to this radiant over the .8 F I am willing to consider it.

I see it is classified as a Princess of Hearts (not 100% sure what that means) and has the lifetime guarantee. But it also looks like it has a 1.15 (rectangular) ratio. Which kind of puts me back to where I started on the first batch lol.

Thanks again for all your help Niel!

And to all of the Fathers out there have a Happy Fathers Day weekend!!

*Edit*: Not 100% sure about the l/w ratio on the one you linked the report says 1.0 ratio (5.15/5.14), but on the scroll down side it says 5.16/5.99..so I don't know. If it the report is accurate I think it would be very hard to pass this one up.

I saw that ratio, but it looks square which is why I suggested it. If ask them the actual ratio just to make sure. Those are going to perform a lot better than the classic radiants youre looking at. I think if you have it in the budget its worth considering. I think you'd be surprise in the difference if you got them to make a comparison video.

 

[tblanke]

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10036/

In budget. No sharp corners. Very square sides, basically as square as possible and still be a cushion. Modern (not vintage/antique) style. Lifetime guarantee.

Wow that looks like an amazing stone for the money! After spending hours reading about the different types of cushions vs radiant's and gia vs ags and this vs that and spending the night sleeping on it, it seems like I may never find the right diamond :/ ... The price is fantastic and is the only diamond I've seen that has come in under budget! After reading the GOG loose diamond policy, finding one that comes with their lifetime guarantee instead of the limited policy looks like a huge plus. I never realized a cushion could be so square! And I absolutely love the hearts and arrows and can see why the last 3 diamonds you and Niel suggested fall under that category. And lastly it looks like you almost get the same "face up" (I think) size in this .68 cushion as in the .8 radiant almost a 5x5 mm, which is exactly what I was looking for!

 

[Niel]

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10036/

In budget. No sharp corners. Very square sides, basically as square as possible and still be a cushion. Modern (not vintage/antique) style. Lifetime guarantee.

Wow that looks like an amazing stone for the money! After spending hours reading about the different types of cushions vs radiant's and gia vs ags and this vs that and spending the night sleeping on it, it seems like I may never find the right diamond :/ ... The price is fantastic and is the only diamond I've seen that has come in under budget! After reading the GOG loose diamond policy, finding one that comes with their lifetime guarantee instead of the limited policy looks like a huge plus. I never realized a cushion could be so square! And I absolutely love the hearts and arrows and can see why the last 3 diamonds you and Niel suggested fall under that category. And lastly it looks like you almost get the same "face up" (I think) size in this .68 cushion as in the .8 radiant almost a 5x5 mm, which is exactly what I was looking for!

Great I think that's a great solution! I think that will make a stunning ring! Just make sure its eye clean.

 

[tblanke]

[quote="Niel|1371

I saw that ratio, but it looks square which is why I suggested it. If ask them the actual ratio just to make sure. Those are going to perform a lot better than the classic radiants youre looking at. I think if you have it in the budget its worth considering. I think you'd be surprise in the difference if you got them to make a comparison video.

It does appear to be square and the Megascope picture does list it as a 1.0 l/w, but the ags lab report and the scroll bar on the page both have it listed as a rectangular radiant. I could make this diamond work with my budget, I just wanted to make sure that there would be a significant real world difference between this type of stone and the one I have on reserve and not just something you would see in a lab test!

In my reply to Julie I touched on how much I liked the idea of the Lifetime guarantee over the limited in their loose diamonds policy. At the bottom of this policy they have their video request policy stated and I was curious how strictly this is enforced. I can see why they wouldn't want to make videos day and night for people just curious of what different types of diamonds would look like next to each other. I am someone who is definitely ready to buy, I already have the $500 on the credit card reserving my favorite diamond out of the second batch, plus the initial $50 deposit to get the first batch.

If I am even able to receive another HD comparison video from David I want it to be the last for both of our sakes lol. My budget going into this whole process was $4-5K. The setting I picked out came in at $1,560, leaving me a max of $3.4K to spend on the stone. Of course I would like to keep it as close to bottom of my budget as possible, but do not mind spending more if I am getting a significantly better diamond for the money.

We wanted the shape of the stone to be as square as possible with the rounded corners, which is why I thought radiant was the only option, but the square cushion Julie shared with the modern cut looks like it could work. And I know a few different members mentioned the radiant stone with the vintage setting may not look right. Would this still be true for the Brellia cut cushion?

Sorry again for another long post and thank you again Julie and Niel for taking the time to help me. And I would also like to thank David again from GOG for being so patient and understanding with me. I can see how it maybe would frustrate me spending this much time searching for an inexpensive (compared to the majority of the stones on this site) diamond, but all your help has truly been a blessing in my life and I cannot thank you all enough!

In summary here is the setting I have selected:
http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER8634PT4JJ

And this is the diamond I have on reserve:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10959

And the other diamonds suggested from $$$ to $:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10156/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10036/
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-2879017...m_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com (If hearts and arrow)

 

[Niel]

IMHO I think that cushion is the best option. It'll look more appropriate in that vintage setting than a sharp corner radiant. It hits that 5mm mark. Also its cheap. Plus, it will perform better than the radiant you picked. I don't think you necessarily need a video if they charge you more, but at least a pic to make sure its eye clean and you like it.

 

[JulieN]

You don't need a video made. Search brellia diamond on youtube and you will find a lot of videos.

 

[tblanke]

IMHO I think that cushion is the best option. It'll look more appropriate in that vintage setting than a sharp corner radiant. It hits that 5mm mark. Also its cheap. Plus, it will perform better than the radiant you picked. I don't think you necessarily need a video if they charge you more, but at least a pic to make sure its eye clean and you like it.

It's funny how every time I hear the word cushion I picture a pillow shaped antique style diamond and not something squared with the rounded edges that I am looking for. I'm afraid I may have jumped the gun on reserving .8 F radiant, but do you think it would be in my best interest to put another $500 deposit down to reserve this diamond as well or is it something that "should" still be there when they resume business on Tuesday?

It fits the setting, is the right size, works with the budget, and should perform better than the previous diamond in my cart. The only con is like you mentioned to make sure the stone is completely eye clean and get a picture to make sure it looks as good as the image form the AGS report.

What would your thoughts be on paying an additional $50 to have 3 Square Brellia Cushions called in?

Thanks again Niel and Julie for both your time and help and I hope you both enjoy the rest of your weekend!

 

[tblanke]

WOW!! Just saw the youtube videos and I wish I would have known these Square Brellia Cushions existed 2 weeks ago! I believe they are EXACTLY what I have been looking for! Now to find the right one! Thank you thank thank you thank you!

 

[tblanke]

Okay long story short Gabriel NY is moving and will be out of commission for 3-4 weeks and I need a diamond in 1-2. So I decided to go back to the setting in my original post and pair it with a round brilliant.

I have the following four diamonds on hold being visually inspected:

.59 I SI1 $1,618
http://www.bluenile.com/certs/104059321003.pdf?params=cHJvZHVjdD1CTiZwaG9uZT04ODgtNTY1LTc2NDEmbGluaz1odHRwJTNBJTJGJTJGd3d3LmJsdWVuaWxlLmNvbSUyRl9MRDAzMTM0ODk4JnNrdT1MRDAzMTM0ODk4JmxhYj1hZ3NsJnNpemU9MTYwMCZjdXJyZW5jeT1VU0Qm

.60 G SI1 $1,722
http://www.bluenile.com/certs/2151491976.pdf?params=cHJvZHVjdD1CTiZwaG9uZT04ODgtNTY1LTc2NDEmbGluaz1odHRwJTNBJTJGJTJGd3d3LmJsdWVuaWxlLmNvbSUyRl9MRDAxNzAxMDE3JnNrdT1MRDAxNzAxMDE3JmxhYj1naWEmc2l6ZT0xNjAwJmN1cnJlbmN5PVVTRCY%3D

.61 G SI1 $1,840
http://www.bluenile.com/certs/5136931805.pdf?params=cHJvZHVjdD1CTiZwaG9uZT04ODgtNTY1LTc2NDEmbGluaz1odHRwJTNBJTJGJTJGd3d3LmJsdWVuaWxlLmNvbSUyRl9MRDAzMTgyNjAzJnNrdT1MRDAzMTgyNjAzJmxhYj1naWEmc2l6ZT0xNjAwJmN1cnJlbmN5PVVTRCY%3D

.61 E SI1 $1,915
http://www.bluenile.com/certs/2141193987.pdf?params=cHJvZHVjdD1CTiZwaG9uZT04ODgtNTY1LTc2NDEmbGluaz1odHRwJTNBJTJGJTJGd3d3LmJsdWVuaWxlLmNvbSUyRl9MRDAyNDAzODg4JnNrdT1MRDAyNDAzODg4JmxhYj1naWEmc2l6ZT0xNjAwJmN1cnJlbmN5PVVTRCY%3D

Hopefully after today the next time I come back to post it will be a picture of this engagement ring with one of these diamonds on it! Other than not being eye clean i'm having trouble with the process of elimination. All are HCA <2 and 1A or 1B on AGA round grading chart.

Please and thank you!

 

[E B]

Does your girlfriend want a round? If you're still open to radiants, this one over at James Allen looks pretty:

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/radiant-cut/0.63-carat-g-color-vvs1-clarity-sku-177731