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BobHope1284

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I finally got the idealscope images for the diamonds I was talking about in this thread. Opinions on these stones would be greatly appreciated.

From the e-mail I got form james allen, they said "Based upon the Idealscope images all three diamonds have Ideal to very good symmetry ratings. 1260786 and 1275226 would receive the higher rating of Ideal as indicated by their perfectly formed arrows. The table are aligned within the center of the diamonds and not of the eight arrows surrounding it are broken or misshapen. These diamonds all have exceptional light performance, with little to no light leakage throughout. The diamonds all have a uniformed amount of white around the girdles, offering contrast and aiding in fiery flashes.



I had my graduate gemologist review these diamonds and she agreed that all three diamonds have exceptional quality cuts. She did not feel that 1275966 was worth the premium price for the largest carat weight. She said it is priced higher for a lower clarity grade than the other two diamonds. The diamond is very hazy and almost appears dirty. This is from the numerous twining wisps throughout the face of the diamond.



1260786, the 1.20 H SI1 is the least expensive of the diamonds as well as the best quality. The clarity is based on a colorless crystal located near the girdle and is not eye-visible. If the inclusion bothers you it can be easily hidden by a prong once set into the ring. The diamond has a very nice appearance and is extremely brilliant. She recommends this diamond for the savings.



1275226, 1.38 H SI1 is the most expensive of the three diamonds. However it does appear to be the biggest diamond of the three. The diamond does contain carbon crystals throughout the face, but this will not be detectable without magnification. If you are looking for size and brilliance this is the diamond for you."
 
diamond one:

1.38 H SI1
See here

1275226.JPG
 
Diamond 2:
1260786 1.20 H SI1
See here

1260786.JPG
 
Last one is and ACA from whiteflash.
1.314 I, SI1

See here

All pics/info are on the whiteflash site.

Please let me know what you think.
 
You have three very nice diamonds to choose from. If one vendor has a setting you prefer, I would recommend getting the diamond and setting from the same place. Otherwise it is just a matter of if you want to pay a bit more for the slightly larger stone. Peformance wise there is very little difference.

Also keep in mind that policies for returns, buyback and upgrades vary between JA & WF. Make sure you read them carefully, especially if upgrading would ever be a consideration in the future.
 
Date: 1/19/2010 12:46:36 PM
Author: jet2ks
You have three very nice diamonds to choose from. If one vendor has a setting you prefer, I would recommend getting the diamond and setting from the same place. Otherwise it is just a matter of if you want to pay a bit more for the slightly larger stone. Peformance wise there is very little difference.

Also keep in mind that policies for returns, buyback and upgrades vary between JA & WF. Make sure you read them carefully, especially if upgrading would ever be a consideration in the future.
Ditto Jet.
 
thritto--at this point price and policies should be your deciding factors.
 
Upgrading is not something I care about as I don''t plan to do that and I''m going to be setting it in a plain platinum solitaire setting so that''s not an issue either. I''ve been leaning toward the WF stone because it''s an ACA so I know it will be a great cut and it''s only .6 smaller and one color grade down.

From looking at these images does it look like their all cut the same? Because while I am leaning toward WF, I don''t want to pay a premium for the WF ACA just because of the ACA branding.

If in my position which stone would you guys choose?
 
Date: 1/19/2010 12:58:27 PM
Author: Bella_mezzo
thritto--at this point price and policies should be your deciding factors.

Like I said - policies aren''t a big deal for me because I don''t plan to upgrade.

In terms of pricing, with the setting I want, prices will be for the 1.2 - $6500, 1.32 - $7200, 1.38 - $7600
 
Don't know if those are the lowest prices on the JA stones, but if you pay by wire transfer as a PSer the WF is 6738.35..


They're all very nice diamonds
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Date: 1/19/2010 1:27:17 PM
Author: yssie
Don''t know if those are the lowest prices on the JA stones, but if you pay by wire transfer as a PSer the WF is 6738.35..



They''re all very nice diamonds
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Thanks. Yeah, I haven''t negotiated at all with JA, but those prices on the JA diamonds include a platinum solitaire setting and reflect the PS and bank wire discounts. On the WF one the stone and setting with the PS/Bankwire discount come to 7400, but they said they''d do 7200.

Nobody wants to put themselves in my position and say what choice they''d make?
 
All looks good.

It is something you will have to decide yourself. What is most important to you, size, budget, name, cut? Everyone has different priorities.
 
Ah, okay
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Ditto SC though. I''d personally go for one of the two bigger ones, if it''s financially feasible, but I like size!
 
Date: 1/19/2010 1:41:21 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
All looks good.


It is something you will have to decide yourself. What is most important to you, size, budget, name, cut? Everyone has different priorities.

Cut is most important to me. I guess that''s my biggest question - do these images from JA show that the cut is going to be just as good as the WF stone?
 
IS looks good, no idea on the optical symm though.
 
Date: 1/19/2010 1:57:01 PM
Author: BobHope1284


Date: 1/19/2010 1:41:21 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
All looks good.


It is something you will have to decide yourself. What is most important to you, size, budget, name, cut? Everyone has different priorities.

Cut is most important to me. I guess that's my biggest question - do these images from JA show that the cut is going to be just as good as the WF stone?
If there's a difference in performance... you won't see it.


The WF is a branded H&A - the JAs will not have this precise faceting. While there's certainly a performance correlation, it's not causal
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I'd select the 1.38 from James Allen.
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Looks like a beautiful stone. It has 'better' inclusions than the other James Allen SI1.
 
Date: 1/19/2010 2:05:31 PM
Author: yssie
Date: 1/19/2010 1:57:01 PM

Author: BobHope1284



Date: 1/19/2010 1:41:21 PM

Author: Stone-cold11

All looks good.

It is something you will have to decide yourself. What is most important to you, size, budget, name, cut? Everyone has different priorities.


Cut is most important to me. I guess that''s my biggest question - do these images from JA show that the cut is going to be just as good as the WF stone?

If there''s a difference in performance... you won''t see it.

The WF is a branded H&A - the JAs will not have this precise faceting. While there''s certainly a performance correlation, it''s not causal
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So is this to say I''m basically payig for the name "whiteflash" and the branding of "H&A"?
 
In part.


You're paying for the ACA brand, the fact that it's an H&A, and the guarantee that it's of the very best cut that you can possibly get in a 57facet RB, and will be a stunning performer - which is a requirement of the ACA brand, not necessarily of the fact that it's H&A. This is why we can say that the JA stones are excellent performers even though they're not H&A. They will not be as tightly cut as the WF ACA, but human vision can only differentiate so much, and at some point H&A vs not-H&A becomes a mind-clean thing.
 
So I ended up making my decision this evening, and I went with the WF stone. Thanks to everyone for the advice on this. I will post the images of the ring when I receive them.
 
Congratulations, it''s going to be gorgeous
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Can''t wait to see pics!!!
 
Good luck. :)
 
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