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rduffy5

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Hi all!

I have found two diamonds squarely within my price range which sound very good.

#1 is a Round cut, 1 ct, G, VS2. It's Depth is 66%, Table is 55%, Crown Angle 39 and Pavillion Angle is 40. Overall on the Holloway Cut Advisor, it's a 1.9. This diamond sounds perfect as it is a G and also high clarity. Obviously, I need to contact Martin for a photo. Link

#2 is a Round cut, 1 ct, H, SI1. It's Depth is 60.9%, Table is 57%, Crown Angle 33.5 and Pavillion Angle 41. Overall on the Holloway Cut Advisor, it's a 1.1. Basically, this diamond has better "stats" in the HCA but slightly less clear/less clarity. Link

Overall, I obviously need photos of each but based solely on the stats, what does everyone think? Thank you!
 
I think the PS community will need more info to help you.
Which lab graded these stone?
Any pics like an ASET?
 
WillyDiamond said:
I think the PS community will need more info to help you.
Which lab graded these stone?
Any pics like an ASET?
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They are both GIA graded. There are no pictures from USA Certed but I have requested some to be sent to me.
 
Although I wouldn't recommend either, I am intrigued with the proportions of the first one that returns an HCA of 1.8! Although the optical symmetry on a GIA good isn't likely to be stellar, I'd be interested if someone can draw what it would look like on diamcalc.
 
gm89uk said:
Although I wouldn't recommend either, I am intrigued with the proportions of the first one that returns an HCA of 1.8! Although the optical symmetry on a GIA good isn't likely to be stellar, I'd be interested if someone can draw what it would look like on diamcalc.
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i think my jaw dropped when i saw the proportions on the first one! :lol: Ran it through diamdb to see what the difference is on the face up and there is 11% less surface area on the first stone vs the 2nd.

OP, the first is WAY too deep and should definitely be crossed off your list. The second has a slightly shallow crown vs what would normally be recommended. What is your budget and desired specs so we can help?

Out of curiosity I had to go look up some stones with similar proportions to the first stone:
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/9179705/0-50-carat-round-diamond-f-color-vvs2-clarity
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/9186350/0-50-carat-round-diamond-g-color-vs2-clarity
 
Option 1: 66% depth o_O no, thanks. The diamond will face up smaller than a 0.9cr stone, you might as well buy a 0.9ct diamond. It is way too deep.

Option 2: shallow crown angle, it will lack fire.

What is your budget?
 
Thank you, everyone.

My budget for the diamond is sub-$4000 for a total of around $5000 (with the setting, which I may get separately at a store). I'd like it to be around 1ct and have color of G-I and clarity of VVSII-SI1, ideally. I'm not well-versed on the depth/crown angle etc.
 
rduffy5 said:
Thank you, everyone.

My budget for the diamond is sub-$4000 for a total of around $5000 (with the setting, which I may get separately at a store). I'd like it to be around 1ct and have color of G-I and clarity of VVSII-SI1, ideally. I'm not well-versed on the depth/crown angle etc.
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what type of setting are you thinking of getting? One stop shopping is always best.
 
farrahlyn said:
what type of setting are you thinking of getting? One stop shopping is always best.
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I'm thinking a platinum pave that is a little thin.

Like this but with thinner/softer sides.
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No and no - 1st one is very washed out and I wouldn't buy a round stone that is certified by IGI, the second one has a shallow crown angle. With your budget and requirements, I would call IDJewelry - they will be able to find you a great stone and have access to many and affordable settings.
Tell them that you are looking for as close to 1ct as possible, eye-clean, I color, ideal cut that scores well on HCA. I would keep your options open for any stones between 0.9-1.x.
If you wanted to put the stone in a solitaire setting, I would recommend this one: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/d...0.997-i-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104093735048
It is just under 1ct with the spread of 1ct! I, VS1 and with blue fluoro which will make it appear even whiter! If you can set it in a simple solitaire now and upgrade the setting later, that would be my top pick.
 
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Ditto SimoneDi. Realistically your budget isn't quite there, with those outlined specifict for a 1ct stone with a platinum pave band. With those specifics, you're looking at $6k+. So you'll need to give somewhere. if this is for an e-ring, suss out if your intended would prefer emphasis on a particular setting or would prefer the biggest stone you can get (without compromising cut) and put it in a solitaire setting with the intention of upgrading later. Upgrade options make a big difference on what site to use too, they're all different.
 
OOH SimoneDi's Brian Gavin find is awesome. You will not do better with your budget and the faceup size is great. Buying a stone just under a carat is a huge savings--there is a big jump in price at 1 carat. And this one, like she says, has essentially the diameter of a one carat stone. A strong contender!
 
Sagefemme said:
OOH SimoneDi's Brian Gavin find is awesome. You will not do better with your budget and the faceup size is great. Buying a stone just under a carat is a huge savings--there is a big jump in price at 1 carat. And this one, like she says, has essentially the diameter of a one carat stone. A strong contender!
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I also like that Brian Gavin diamond. When looking at the settings they offer, there are very little options and the options they do have are very expensive. Do you think it would be possible to just get the diamond and then get it set separately at a jewelry store? How much would that cost?
 
If you like the stone, I would contact IDJ and ask them what pave settings they can offer for a stone with a diameter of appx 6.5mm. You can get the setting from them and have them ship it to BGD for the setting the stone, as the stone will be insured with them during the setting processes. A friend of mine did that, both vendors are super nice to work with.
Or you can also ask BGD if they can source you a cheaper setting/Stuller perhaps?
 
What do we think of this diamond? I know it's IGI but it has a good HCA score and good Diamdb score as well. Price is where I want it to be and I like James Allen. Also, it's a J (will be in platinum setting) and has good clarity.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...j-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2400082

Otherwise, please let me know of other diamonds under $4300, .9-1.0 ct, J+ color, SI1+ clarity.
 
rduffy5 said:
What do we think of this diamond? I know it's IGI but it has a good HCA score and good Diamdb score as well. Price is where I want it to be and I like James Allen. Also, it's a J (will be in platinum setting) and has good clarity.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...j-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2400082

Otherwise, please let me know of other diamonds under $4300, .9-1.0 ct, J+ color, SI1+ clarity.
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I would definitely get the BGD one for the price difference. IGI J is questionably a J, could be a K, if graded by GIA or AGS. It doesn't have a great cut. Notice how faint the arrows are and there is no contrast (washed out look), that is something you are trying to avoid, ok. Also, please notice that even though it is at 1ct, it faces up smaller with an outer diameter of 6.41mm vs 6.46mm. The BGD stone is first and foremost cut to standards that only 1% of all round diamonds on the market are cut, it is graded by AGS for ideal performance, it is an I (higher color) that can be trusted and it has fluorescence, which will further help the color. Why are you even thinking this? I would reserve the BGD stone asap before someone else snatches it.
 
OP
If you like the BGD stone, and not sure they have the setting for you, call Lesley at BGD to see if she can put the entire package together for you.
 
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