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ejc317

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Before I start maybe I don't know how to read the idealscope but are areas of white near the center bad? I assume that's leakage but maybe I'm interpreting it wrong?

I think I've narrowed it down to these 2 diamonds - and will buy sometime in the next 2-3 days. The prices are SIMILAR with GOG slightly less

#1 - White Flash

http://pics7.whiteflash.com/jewelry/thumbnail.ashx?itemcode=is_ags-104050642023.jpg&type=idealscope
http://pics7.whiteflash.com/jewelry/thumbnail.ashx?itemcode=is_ags-104050642023.jpg&type=aset
http://pics7.whiteflash.com/jewelry/thumbnail.ashx?itemcode=is_ags-104050642023.jpg&type=hearts


1.558 carat
G Color
VS2
Depth % 61.2
Table % 55.3
Crown Angle 34.8
Star 52.0
Pavilion Angle 40.7
Crown % 15.4
Lower Girdle % 77.0
Measurements 7.47x7.51x4.58
Culet Pointed
Fluorescence Negligible
Girdle Thin to Medium Faceted

#2 - GOG

http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/9029/

#3 - WF

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2531900.htm

#4 - WF

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2219630.htm
 
if i were you i would get the GOG in a heart beat ... G color is perfectly white, best price, and this VS2 is probably one of the best i have seen... the cloud inclusion is the best type you can get - for me i can never spot clouds with my 10x loupe !
 
On the DIAMXRay are those white bits near the middle leakage? My girlfriend wants a really "bling diamond" and she doesn't care much for size - she thinks 1.5 is already too big for her to wear daily (I know lucky me :D)

But she'd rather I spend the money on clarity etc.

The price on diamond #1 is about 22k so its 22k for the first, 20k for the second, and ~27k for the 2 F VS1's.

Do you guys think the 4-5k bump is worth it?

The first 1 has 1 inclusion (a crystal in the table) whereas the latter 2 are all feathers ... all 4 are eye clean.

I know I may seem spazzy but I am quite nervous and want to make sure I am making the right pick.

Thanks all for the help!
 
You're a lifesaver. I was reading another thread and I saw your avatar - I was going to message you about that ring!
 
ejc317|1328985264|3124073 said:
You're a lifesaver. I was reading another thread and I saw your avatar - I was going to message you about that ring!
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Are you speaking to me or to Frankie? :))
 
Haha to you but actually probably both.

Now I'm really torn ... the 1.63 carat is a good compromise though between the 3 white flash ones.

So now effectively I have 5 diamonds to choose from. If size is not a consideration - would you choose diamond #1 or the smaller GOG one? (price aside purely on quality of diamond)
 
Are you asking whether I'd choose between #1 or #2 in the first post?

Oh, and if you are interested my my setting, I can give you details!
 
Yes please to both questions
 
i would pick either of the GOG diamond ... so #2 , or the 1.63ct ... i just feel that it is more justified in terms of price as you aren't over paying unnecessary premium ... :))
 
#1 and #2 are both absolute top quality stones. One is not better than the other. So if #2 costs a little less, then that would be the factor that would make me choose it. Plus I really think the inclusions are excellent on that stone since most are on the outer edges. And the 1.63 is also perfectly cut and extremely clean if clarity is important to you.

My setting is the Vatche U-113 and Good Old Gold ordered it for me (they send your diamond to Vatche and they make the setting to fit your diamond). I requested it be make in 900 platinum which is 90% platinum and 10% iridium because that is a little more scratch resistant than the usual 95plat/5iridium. I was not charged extra for that. The price fluctuates depending on the platinum prices, but mine was $1840 just to give you an idea.
 
I really like #2 as well, and DS setting is awesome! She appears to have a lot of flexibility with this particular setting. You should take a look at her thread. It will show you how many wonderful wedding ring options that the setting allows for. And just a heads up....finding a wedding ring that will sit well with the e-ring can be a chore so being aware ahead of time saves headaches down the road.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-visit-to-tiffanys.171403/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-visit-to-tiffanys.171403/[/URL]

I also really like the 1.63, but if your gf already feels that the 1.5 is too large, then I would dismiss this as an option. Diamond size is such a personal choice and if she has already suggested her preferance than I would respect it.
 
Christina...|1328999525|3124228 said:
I really like #2 as well, and DS setting is awesome! She appears to have a lot of flexibility with this particular setting. You should take a look at her thread. It will show you how many wonderful wedding ring options that the setting allows for. And just a heads up....finding a wedding ring that will sit well with the e-ring can be a chore so being aware ahead of time saves headaches down the road.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-visit-to-tiffanys.171403/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-visit-to-tiffanys.171403/[/URL]

I also really like the 1.63, but if your gf already feels that the 1.5 is too large, then I would dismiss this as an option. Diamond size is such a personal choice and if she has already suggested her preferance than I would respect it.
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I missed where he said a1.5 felt large to his GF. I think either of the stones would be stellar. I'd still vote for the 1.63 b/c I know how quickly diamonds seem to shrink once you start wearing them every day :cheeky: But agree if she is really opposed to a larger stone you should repect that :))
 
mrssalvo|1329002056|3124258 said:
Christina...|1328999525|3124228 said:
I really like #2 as well, and DS setting is awesome! She appears to have a lot of flexibility with this particular setting. You should take a look at her thread. It will show you how many wonderful wedding ring options that the setting allows for. And just a heads up....finding a wedding ring that will sit well with the e-ring can be a chore so being aware ahead of time saves headaches down the road.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-visit-to-tiffanys.171403/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-visit-to-tiffanys.171403/[/URL]

I also really like the 1.63, but if your gf already feels that the 1.5 is too large, then I would dismiss this as an option. Diamond size is such a personal choice and if she has already suggested her preferance than I would respect it.
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I missed where he said a1.5 felt large to his GF. I think either of the stones would be stellar. I'd still vote for the 1.63 b/c I know how quickly diamonds seem to shrink once you start wearing them every day :cheeky: But agree if she is really opposed to a larger stone you should repect that :))
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Sooo true!! it is amazing how quickly a stone that feels large one day suddenly feels small a year or so down the road. Maybe you should discuss it with her and see if she had considered this. Some people are opposed to upgrading their erings in the future, and others are on a never ending upgrade, so if this diamond is going to be her forever and ever diamond, then considering how she may feel about the size of the stone in the future is important. I purchased a 1 ct last year and thought that I would be happy with the size for a long time, now I'm looking at 1.5-1.75 and wondering if it will be large enough. DId you mention her ring size?
 
Between #1 and #2 I would ask WF and GOG to price it out with the setting you are going to get and see who offers the better deal. In terms of cut I doubt they will show much difference.

Personally, considering both 1.55ct and 1.63ct from GOG are eye/mind clean, I would not pay almost 20% more for less than ~0.2mm gain in diameter.
 
Thanks all for the helpful reply.

Her ring size is between a 5 and a 5.5

I think she'd be OK wearing a 1.63 carat but the initial ring she liked was a 1.3 carat hah. (I can afford both, it's not an issue but she's quite picky about what she puts on her finger) - I bought her things before and it just gets stashed away in a box. She DOES have a freakishly good eye for symmetry and inclusions - she spotted something that most people wouldn't see at 10x (so that's why more concern with the quality of the stone)

That said, one thing I liked about Whiteflash was that you can always upgrade (GOG is double price, WF is just more not double). So if she ever changes her mind, I can upgrade for her. They've also been quite hopeful and I honestly had not looked at GOG until 2 days ago.

In terms of stone + setting, if I can get the same prices for the 2 pairs of stones below, do you guys mind giving a final assessment

Either

1) #1 and #2 above

OR

2) http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2275586.htm

vs.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8856/


It seems that again, both companies can be competitive with price and those 2 sets can be around the same price so I just want to get more bang for the buck and also make sure that upgrade makes a difference. The alternative to getting more size is going with an F VS1 instead but seems like most people here don't think that's worth it.

I did manage to find this one. It has a pinpoint inclusion at 1.545 carats vs. the 1st one which is 1.56carats with a crystal inclusion. This 1.545 is about 2k more but its a VS1 - do you guys think this much of an upgrade is worth it? (vs. the 2 F VS1's that I posted for 5k more)

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2708991.htm

Thanks again all!
 
Where are you seeing that you have to spend double to upgrade with GOG? I just looked over their lifetime policy and you just have to spend more not double, but maybe I'm missing something?


Really, I think we are splitting hairs on these stones. All are gorgeous super duper ideal and will be stunning! Since all are within budget that doesn't help narrow things down at all :cheeky: I'd still vote for the 1.63 because you are getting a VS1 which I think is a plus since your gal has eagle eyes plus the slightly larger stone. But really, you cannot go wrong with any of them.
 
If you absolutely must get a VS1, my vote goes to the GOG 1.63ct.

I just want to point out that a VS2, even with table crystals, can be 100% eye clean.

Inclusion map of my VS2, same size range:
sarainclusions.png

Zoomed in picture, pardon the dirty stone:
bluesara7stone.png

The crystals in my stone are clear/white, and I can't see them at any distance/angle/lighting without a loupe. At 2-3 inches I think I can catch glimpses of them depending on angle/lighting, but at that point I'm really straining to focus.
 
Well, the GOG 1.63 G VS1 is less than the other 1.54, so that is a pretty easy choice! Also, GOG offers lifetime tradeup on their signature stones and does NOT require double:

"Trading up is easy to do. Under the "Lifetime Guarantee" policy you can trade in the diamond you purchased from Good Old Gold and obtain a credit toward another diamond of equal or greater than in value than your original purchase."
 
I suggest you get Jon at GOG to show you several of his stones in a video and pick the one with the best optics...none of them will be "bad" of those you have chosen.

I like the optics of the H SI 1 It is $18,800 and the aset and diamxray are killer. And it is 7.80mm. It will look just as white as the G

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/8081/



Shape: Round
Carat Weight: 1.73ct
Color: H
Clarity: SI1
AGS Cut Grade: Ideal
AGS Light Performance: Ideal
Optical Symmetry: Superior
Polish: Ideal
Symmetry: Ideal
Fluorescence: None
Culet: None
Lab Report: AGS
Lab Report #: 104047946004
In House: Yes
Width: 7.78mm
Length: 7.80mm
Depth: 4.69mm
Table Percentage: 58.49%
Depth Percentage: 60.28%
Crown ∠: 32.62°
Crown Depth: 13.29%
Pavilion ∠: 41.07°
Pavilion Depth: 43.48%
Policy: lifetime guarantee

Good luck.
 
That is all fair points however, the WF quoted prices are way more flexible than the GOG listed prices.

I think you guys are right, if I get a bigger stone, I will get the GOG one but for a smaller stone what do you guys think? I probably won't get an F VS1 or the G VS1 1.545 for 2k more. So it really comes down to the below

1) The 1.558 carat WF one (Diamond #1 above)
2) http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2231140.htm

significantly cheaper than all the others only SLIGHTLY smaller and 2 inclusions (but in table)

3) http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/9029/

What do you guys think?

I will just take a poll
 
ejc317|1329028361|3124498 said:
That is all fair points however, the WF quoted prices are way more flexible than the GOG listed prices.

I think you guys are right, if I get a bigger stone, I will get the GOG one but for a smaller stone what do you guys think? I probably won't get an F VS1 or the G VS1 1.545 for 2k more. So it really comes down to the below

1) The 1.558 carat WF one (Diamond #1 above)
2) http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2231140.htm

significantly cheaper than all the others only SLIGHTLY smaller and 2 inclusions (but in table)

3) http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/9029/

What do you guys think?

I will just take a poll
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G VS1...you don't need to worry about VS1 inclusions
 
Sorry but the first two stones are VS2 but eye. Lean. You're saying I should go with the smaller cheaper VS1?
 
ejc317|1329029967|3124511 said:
Sorry but the first two stones are VS2 but eye. Lean. You're saying I should go with the smaller cheaper VS1?
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I would because it is cheaper. but I don't think you have a 'bad' choice.
 
Out I'd the smaller stones you linked, I'd go with the G VS I from WF.
 
ejc317|1329028361|3124498 said:
That is all fair points however, the WF quoted prices are way more flexible than the GOG listed prices.
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Just curious, what do you mean by this? Have you called both and asked about pricing on specific stones?
 
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