Cushion Modified Brilliant - Opinions Please

[carrottop]

Does anyone have opinions on the following stone? I''d appreciate anything you could tell me/warn me about. I have asked for pictures, and if I like it from the pictures, I will ask to see the stone in person. I''ll post pictures when I get them.

Cushion Modified Brilliant
1.77 CT
8x7x4.1
57% depth
56% table
11.5% crown
37% pavillion
thin to very thick faceted girdle
culet: none
polich: good
symmetry: good
clarity: SI1
color: H

 

[carrottop]

i''m mainly worried about the depth/table/crown/pavillion because those are the specifications that i don''t know anything about. i''m trying to visualize this diamond but i suppose i''ll have to wait until i get the pictures on friday.

 

[Hest88]

I''m also worried that the shallow depth will create a flat stone without much life. However, I guess we won''t know until you see it.

 

[carrottop]

i''m guessing that even pictures won''t really give me a great concept of what life/brilliance/shine of the stone will be - but it''ll be better than nothing. and then i''ll ask to see it in person if the pictures make me think it''s worth the trouble.

 

[valeria101]

Pictures would at least show the shape and facet pattern... an IdealScope picture should give some idea of brilliance. To me, the 'stats' don't sound bad at all - I would have been allot more worried if the relatively low depth (it isn't that little, 57%, 50% would have been... to me) if the stone also had a large table and flat crown which is not the case. I can't tell how this may turn out in person down to small detail, but at least the 'numbers' seen reasonable.

The 'thin-very thick' description of the girdle may mean 'mostly thin' or 'mostly thick' - I wish it wasn't too thick all around the stone.


My 2c

 

[carrottop]

here is a picture i received. still can''t tell a great deal. think i will have them send it to me for review. anyone see anything interesting?

 

[SoonIHope]

I just want to put in a little note saying not to worry too much about the depth! My cushion is 55% depth and soooooo brilliant and sparkly, so I think it really just depends on the stone. That picture looks nice, but I agree that you can''t tell much about it. I would have them send it to you and see if it speaks to you!

 

[Lorelei]

Carrott, it might be a reflection but does it look to you as if there are some dark inclusions visible in the lower part of the diamond? It might just be the pic, what does the vendor say regarding if this diamond is eyeclean? Also it is hard to tell from a picture, it might be perfectly fine, just curious. Going by the measurements you posted is it an EGL USA certed diamond?

 

[carrottop]

yes, it is an EGL USA diamond, another reason i'm skeptical. their "H" might be more like an I or J from what i've read. thanks for the heads up on the dark spots - i'll investigate. the vendor says it's eyeclean and very sparkly.

 

[carrottop]

albi, i''ve seen your ring when we were doing our initial search to figure out what sort of diamond and setting my GF would like. she really loves your thin vera wang setting.

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/3/2006 10:34:45 AM
Author: carrottop
here is a picture i received. still can''t tell a great deal. think i will have them send it to me for review. anyone see anything interesting?

Its a bad position for relatively flat stone in a picture. You should ask for a Face-Up picture, then you might get a feeling!!!

The stats are fine, i know plenty of Cushions that look amazing at 57% T.D.

 

[SoonIHope]

Date: 2/3/2006 10:50:17 AM
Author: carrottop
albi, i''ve seen your ring when we were doing our initial search to figure out what sort of diamond and setting my GF would like. she really loves your thin vera wang setting.

Thanks!!!

I hope she loves hers as much as I love mine!

How are you planning to set it?

 

[Lorelei]

Carrot if the vendor says it is eyeclean, just check that it is at close view - eyeclean can mean no inclusions visible in normal light at a distance of 10 - 12 inches. If it is eyeclean ( just bear in mind the clarity grading in an EGL may be lower too) and you like this diamond then you could be good to go

 

[carrottop]

good advice everyone. thanks! i asked for more pictures and will post them here if/when i receive them.

albi - i am definitely going to do a very thin band - and am not sure whether i want to do one-sided pave, three sided pave, or shared prong tiny diamonds. probably 3/4 around or maybe eternity. i also really like the look of the prongs on your ring and so am considering that (doesn''t your setting have pave up the prongs?). probably will do something custom unless i find something perfect elsewhere.

GF style is very understated, so something simple with not too much "stuff" on it.

 

[SoonIHope]

Date: 2/3/2006 11:36:15 AM
Author: carrottop
good advice everyone. thanks! i asked for more pictures and will post them here if/when i receive them.

albi - i am definitely going to do a very thin band - and am not sure whether i want to do one-sided pave, three sided pave, or shared prong tiny diamonds. probably 3/4 around or maybe eternity. i also really like the look of the prongs on your ring and so am considering that (doesn''t your setting have pave up the prongs?). probably will do something custom unless i find something perfect elsewhere.

GF style is very understated, so something simple with not too much ''stuff'' on it.

Yes, mine has pave up the prongs, and 4 teeeeny tiny bezel set diamonds on the prong tips themselves. (I had thought beforehand that that might look too gaudy for me, but they really are SO tiny that you barely notice them and I love them to death now). Mine is 3/4 eternity and I really do feel safer knowing I can whack the bottom of it hard without having to worry at all about the stones.

One note on custom pave work though...I feel as though most of the people who have had problems with melee falling out have had custom pieces. My impression is that non-custom pieces are often more sturdily set because they make the same piece over and over again, whereas in a custom piece they have to try to guage sizes/distances/proportions etc all for the first time for that unique piece. Not sure if that''s something worth thinking about to you or not, but I know that I did feel a little safer knowing my pave was not custom and this setting has (so far, fingers crossed) been rock solid.

Another little note in favor of my setting...

...I cannot recommend it highly enough for all of the above reasons (and because it is about as thin as any jeweler is willing to go with pave), and because it really is so understated and elegant. When you just glance at it from afar, it looks basically like a solitaire with a bit of extra shimmer to it, but when you look up close it has all the gorgeous detail. I really love that it isn''t too blingy because I think I would be self-conscious with a shared prong or similar band with larger stones because they''re just so in your face. Just my opinion of course, and I certainly LOOOVE looking at everyone else''s more blingy settings.

In any case, I can already tell I''m going to love whatever you pick out for her and can''t wait to see what you decide!!!

 

[carrottop]

here''s the "from the top" picture they sent. it looks a bit asymmetrical to me (perimeter and facets).

 

[carrottop]

also, i can''t tell if it''s a cloudy picture or, perhaps, a cloudy diamond.

 

[diagem]

Date: 2/3/2006 2:40:55 PM
Author: carrottop
here''s the ''from the top'' picture they sent. it looks a bit asymmetrical to me (perimeter and facets).

Actually, looks pretty good for a 56% Total Depth...

Faceting arangement look esthetic, did you check for flo.?

Shape looks good to me...

 

[carrottop]

thanks for the input anon. btw: the EGL certificate says no flourescence.

 

[diagem]

It Looks Good!!!

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Date: 2/3/2006 2:40:55 PM
Author: carrottop
here''s the ''from the top'' picture they sent. it looks a bit asymmetrical to me (perimeter and facets).

The shape of the stone looks asymmetrical to me.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 2/3/2006 3:03:50 PM
Author: Tacori E-ring

Date: 2/3/2006 2:40:55 PM
Author: carrottop
here''s the ''from the top'' picture they sent. it looks a bit asymmetrical to me (perimeter and facets).

The shape of the stone looks asymmetrical to me.

It does to me too, curves out on the right of the diamond on the side and in on the left. The table looks a little off too but it might just be the picture.