Cushion confusion!!

[nomissjane]

Hi All,
This is my first post, so I''m hoping I get it right.
I''ve been snooping around this terrific site for a few months now and have been trying to educate myself on cushion cut ''sparklers''....
I understand from the responses on other posts that specs for cushions vary and they don''t have specific ideal dimensions...but I''m hoping to get some feedback on some specs for a stone my boyf has sent to me....
I had been told that a depth of 63 - 68 and a table in the high 50''s is a safe bet, but I''m not sure of some of the other critical areas to look out for....
Unfortunately (for the purposes of buying a cushion, but lucky for me cause it''s gorgeous here!!), I live in Sydney and have found that Cushions are not as easily sourced here as they seem to be in NYC/USA, and harder to track down.....
I had fallen in love with a 3.8ct Daniel K ring, with a beautiful cushion, but it''s way out of our price range - however it seems that he does source gorgeous cushions.
I''m hoping that if I post some stats that some good soul might have a quick look and give me some advice....

Here goes....

EGL Certificate
2.03cts
G S12
7.81 - 7.27 x 4.96 mm
Depth - 68.2%
Table width - 62%
Crown Height - 14%
Pavillion depth - 49%
Girdle thickness - Slightly Thick, Faceted
Polish - Very Good
Symmetry - Very Good
Culet - None
Flourescence - None
Graining - Nil

Thanks in advance for your help....

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/29/2006 12:16:51 AM
Author:nomissjane
Hi All,
This is my first post, so I''m hoping I get it right.
I''ve been snooping around this terrific site for a few months now and have been trying to educate myself on cushion cut ''sparklers''....
I understand from the responses on other posts that specs for cushions vary and they don''t have specific ideal dimensions...but I''m hoping to get some feedback on some specs for a stone my boyf has sent to me....
I had been told that a depth of 63 - 68 and a table in the high 50''s is a safe bet, but I''m not sure of some of the other critical areas to look out for....
Unfortunately (for the purposes of buying a cushion, but lucky for me cause it''s gorgeous here!!), I live in Sydney and have found that Cushions are not as easily sourced here as they seem to be in NYC/USA, and harder to track down.....
I had fallen in love with a 3.8ct Daniel K ring, with a beautiful cushion, but it''s way out of our price range - however it seems that he does source gorgeous cushions.
I''m hoping that if I post some stats that some good soul might have a quick look and give me some advice....

Here goes....

EGL Certificate
2.03cts
G S12
7.81 - 7.27 x 4.96 mm
Depth - 68.2%
Table width - 62%
Crown Height - 14%
Pavillion depth - 49%
Girdle thickness - Slightly Thick, Faceted
Polish - Very Good
Symmetry - Very Good
Culet - None
Flourescence - None
Graining - Nil

Thanks in advance for your help....

well I *have* to comment because I feel sorry for you on the cushion quest thing! LOL No matter what diamond shape you like there''s a ton to learn and when it comes to rounds there''s a TON of info... and there''s lots of info you can get on princess and emerald and asscher and even ovals and radiants... but boy when you decide you like a cushion one of the first thing that comes along and whallops you (or sometimes it waits a while and leaves you a limbo''d confusion for quite some time) is that there is more than one type of cushion and very little info out there on what the different cuts mean for performance LOL! There are three main types and all of those have a ton of variations and unlike the round variations - these don''t have NAMES except for h&a squares, OMC and a few others... but the vast majority of "cushions" are just thrown into a pile with the other cushions and left for you to sort through them. I have been looking for an OMC cushion and literally found ONE stuck in the pile like a needle in a haystack... I swear it was stuck in there just for me - or at least I hope it was! lol So... do you like crushed ice pinflashes, medium flashes, or chunky flashes? And how brilliant do you want it? Because from what I''ve seen the crushed ice stones are most brilliant... oh wait, did I say too much and scare you off? LOL! It''s a wormhole for sure!!

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/29/2006 12:16:51 AM
Author:nomissjane
Hi All,
This is my first post, so I''m hoping I get it right.
I''ve been snooping around this terrific site for a few months now and have been trying to educate myself on cushion cut ''sparklers''....
I understand from the responses on other posts that specs for cushions vary and they don''t have specific ideal dimensions...but I''m hoping to get some feedback on some specs for a stone my boyf has sent to me....
I had been told that a depth of 63 - 68 and a table in the high 50''s is a safe bet, but I''m not sure of some of the other critical areas to look out for....
Unfortunately (for the purposes of buying a cushion, but lucky for me cause it''s gorgeous here!!), I live in Sydney and have found that Cushions are not as easily sourced here as they seem to be in NYC/USA, and harder to track down.....
I had fallen in love with a 3.8ct Daniel K ring, with a beautiful cushion, but it''s way out of our price range - however it seems that he does source gorgeous cushions.
I''m hoping that if I post some stats that some good soul might have a quick look and give me some advice....

Here goes....

EGL Certificate
2.03cts
G S12
7.81 - 7.27 x 4.96 mm
Depth - 68.2%
Table width - 62%
Crown Height - 14%
Pavillion depth - 49%
Girdle thickness - Slightly Thick, Faceted
Polish - Very Good
Symmetry - Very Good
Culet - None
Flourescence - None
Graining - Nil

Thanks in advance for your help....

oh and ftr - I have no idea if that''s a good stone... I have yet for someone to tell me what a good cushion looks like. In fact I hear people say utterly conflicting things. My best guess though is if you want fire seek a highish crown... the crown height you listed here is low, the pav depth is high for total depth especially, the table is very large which some people prefer and I have absolutely no idea how this stone will perform. But then again if those numbers are actually correct you have an over 5% girdle which seems really really thick... but what do I know? Not much! lol

 

[nomissjane]

Your so right.....and I thought finding the perfect partner was tricky!! LOL....however, he is perfect for me....
Having lurked around this site for some months now I''ve seen some of the OMC cushions and the more ''crushed ice'' cushions, which I''m sure look fabulous in the right settings, but if this makes any sense at all....I want a more modern sparkle than an OMC, but don''t love the look of the ''crushed ice'' cushion (I''m hoping I don''t offend anyone, it''s such a personal taste/choice).
I''ve read and reread some of reena''s and moremoremore''s posts....and I still feel like a bit of a twit when it comes to all of the stats....I guess it''s the result of not having so many to be able to see in person...
My partner and I will be able to view a few of the cushions, but I''m trying to narrow the selection down by knowing some of the more glaringly obvious cushion no-no''s....
thanks....

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/29/2006 1:44:22 AM
Author: nomissjane
Your so right.....and I thought finding the perfect partner was tricky!! LOL....however, he is perfect for me....
Having lurked around this site for some months now I''ve seen some of the OMC cushions and the more ''crushed ice'' cushions, which I''m sure look fabulous in the right settings, but if this makes any sense at all....I want a more modern sparkle than an OMC, but don''t love the look of the ''crushed ice'' cushion (I''m hoping I don''t offend anyone, it''s such a personal taste/choice).
I''ve read and reread some of reena''s and moremoremore''s posts....and I still feel like a bit of a twit when it comes to all of the stats....I guess it''s the result of not having so many to be able to see in person...
My partner and I will be able to view a few of the cushions, but I''m trying to narrow the selection down by knowing some of the more glaringly obvious cushion no-no''s....
thanks....

well... this would be my advice... for whatever it''s worth... go to the james allen site and punch in cushion and don''t put any other parameters up... and the right side of the list it will say "cert" and "pics" and if you look at the certs, look at the facet plot diagrams, then look at the pictures and you''ll see a pattern develop... the pattern that is very popular here that you might really like is the one I call the x - it has no name that I know of... but from the culet there are only 4 pavillion mains... then 16 upper pavillion facets... the "crushed ice" one also has four pavillion mains and then a row of 16 and another row of 8. And there are SO many different facet patterns... but if you focus on the certs that also have a "camera'' photo image you can compare what the facet plot is compared to what the stone looks like... won''t help you where light return is concerned but it''s a start!

 

[nomissjane]

Thanks for your help and advice....I''ll check out the site.....
I''ll have to let my partner know about this stone soon...but at least I''ll have more of an idea of what is a good cushion....

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/29/2006 2:15:34 AM
Author: nomissjane
Thanks for your help and advice....I''ll check out the site.....
I''ll have to let my partner know about this stone soon...but at least I''ll have more of an idea of what is a good cushion....

I don''t know if that stone is good or not... I just have no idea and it''s likely you''ll have someone saying it''s too deep and another saying it''s just right or even shallow LOL Also, it depends on what you''re looking for... I do wish you lots of luck! Have fun

 

[Stone Hunter]

Everything Cehra said was GREAT!

I too am looking for a cushion and wanted to lend you moral support. I had read that a depth and table of 60-65 % was good for cushions. I''m finding that I like stones outside of that range. So stats may not help, except to get rid of really way off stones.

Do what Cehra said and look at the cert plots. You will have one/two you prefer! Also try to look at some cushions in person they can look very different from each other. Of course your local stores won''t have any/many so check out the photos of cushions on PS too.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/29/2006 1:29:43 PM
Author: Stone Hunter
Everything Cehra said was GREAT!

I too am looking for a cushion and wanted to lend you moral support. I had read that a depth and table of 60-65 % was good for cushions. I''m finding that I like stones outside of that range. So stats may not help, except to get rid of really way off stones.

Do what Cehra said and look at the cert plots. You will have one/two you prefer! Also try to look at some cushions in person they can look very different from each other. Of course your local stores won''t have any/many so check out the photos of cushions on PS too.

see... I read that about the depth table like you said and go well this stone I just bought is 66% deep with a 53% table and then I remind myself well duh sara, you''re buying an OMC and typically they''re even deeper with even smaller tables and that''s what you like! and then I think well maybe my stone isn''t deep enough and that a 50% table would be better.... oh the number headgames! LOL SH I''m still waiting to hear more about what YOU''RE looking for too! https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/fancy-gurus-please.47678/ that is one of my early threads... it starts off like I''m talking about fancies in general but really the thread is about cushions!