Cushion Brilliant or modified or______??

[diagem]

I have been talking to some friends in the industry, and they all inform me that in the cutting centers there are a lot of confusing regarding to Cushion faceting paterns or arrangements.

Some like the regular brilliant cut (like the rounds but adapted to the cushion outline.)
Some prefer the more lively Radiant type pavilion facet structure.
Some prefer the princess pavilion type facets.
and some like the "fancy color" type faceting structure.
Some only want the Anitque type cushions.

Me personaly, i prefer the plain brilliant cut.

The next question was: what shape??? rounded square vs. rounded elongated.

I would like to find out from PS''users what their preferences are, if it is posible?

 

[KristyDarling]

I don''t know much about cushions except that I love them.

I prefer elongated cushion shapes with big, pillowy facets. Cut like in the old days.

 

[Defender]

This is similar to the thread I recently posted. I have been looking at Cushion variations too.

In my own broad terms, the difference seems to be the faceted depthand elegance of the Cushion Brilliant, versus the so called glimmery "crushed ice" look of Cushion Modified Brilliants. Because of cut variations I have also seen some pictures that fall somewhere in between. The l/w ratio, shaping, and corner contours also vary a great deal on both styles of Cushions, so there are many many looks and variations available...It can be somewhat daunting.

 

[mrssalvo]

I prefer the rounded square..

this threadis in the FAQ and has pics that might help some to see the difference DiaGem is talking about.

 

[fatafelice]

I, personally, like the older cut (and new "oldies"). Chunky facets and open culets are my bag, baby.

I think that brilliants are beautiful as well, but I''m not really drawn to many of the "modified" cut stones -- but I don''t really like radiants or princesses either. If they are going to be a modern cut, they better have good light performance, and a lot of the
"modified" stones don''t seem as brilliant to me. (same prob. with radiants)

I also prefer cushions that are more square, under a 1.07 or so, with nice rounded corners -- but they have to look like a cushion and not a deformed round (lol). I also like extremely elongated cushions, but I think they look better in larger sizes and/or fancy colors.

Bottom line, I think that it takes all kinds. There is room in the market for several different types of cushions. My problem is that there needs to be a change or two in the naming of the cuts so that they are easier to distinguish from one another, especially if you are searching online and can''t see the stone without calling it in. What consumers seem to want (based on posts around here -- not exactly a representative sample

) is not all one type of cushion, but to be able to easily locate and choose from the different varieties.

 

[fatafelice]

I think this is my least favorite type of cushion. Interestingly enough, this actually says "cushion brilliant" on the cert, but I consider this to be a modifed kind. Is it just me, or are GIA a bunch of inconsistent bastards who like to mess with our heads?

 

[diagem]

Date: 5/2/2006 5:16:07 PM
Author: fatafelice
I think this is my least favorite type of cushion. Interestingly enough, this actually says ''cushion brilliant'' on the cert, but I consider this to be a modifed kind. Is it just me, or are GIA a bunch of inconsistent bastards who like to mess with our heads?

You are right, the GIA has major problems with their plots (sketches), just like the diamond manufacturers have major problems because there are so many different variations of Cushion facet arrangements, the GIA has the same problem fitting the right plots to the right cushion faceting arrangements and shape.

the GIA seems to work according to parameters, and if for example you have 3 out of 4 parameters on a stone, they will call it according to that parameter...
The stone could be a completely different stone, but they decided differently!!!

I guess when you THINK your the no. 1 authority on gemological info., you think you can affort to do anything, including making these kind of unprofessional decisions and think that you can get away with it.

The problem starts when we and the consumers let them feel that they are so important, but that is for another thread..., lets keep concentrating on CUSHIONS.

I like what i am reading so far, keep the information coming...

 

[Modified Brilliant]

Looks like a cushion brilliant to me AND YES they are inconsistent.

www.metrojewelryappraisers.com

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 5/2/2006 4:38:01 PM
Author: fatafelice

Bottom line, I think that it takes all kinds. There is room in the market for several different types of cushions. My problem is that there needs to be a change or two in the naming of the cuts so that they are easier to distinguish from one another, especially if you are searching online and can''t see the stone without calling it in. What consumers seem to want (based on posts around here -- not exactly a representative sample

) is not all one type of cushion, but to be able to easily locate and choose from the different varieties.

I know this is an old thread ::bump:: but I could NOT agree more with what you''ve said here!!! It seems like *everyone* would win if there were more standards on cushion cuts.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 5/2/2006 11:37:38 AM
Author:DiaGem
I have been talking to some friends in the industry, and they all inform me that in the cutting centers there are a lot of confusing regarding to Cushion faceting paterns or arrangements.

Some like the regular brilliant cut (like the rounds but adapted to the cushion outline.)
Some prefer the more lively Radiant type pavilion facet structure.
Some prefer the princess pavilion type facets.
and some like the ''fancy color'' type faceting structure.
Some only want the Anitque type cushions.

Me personaly, i prefer the plain brilliant cut.

The next question was: what shape??? rounded square vs. rounded elongated.

I would like to find out from PS''users what their preferences are, if it is posible?


The "busier" the facets, the less I like it. I couldn''t tell you what I want exactly, because it either doesn''t exist or there''s no freaking *name* for it so I can''t narrow it down to that... based on what little I *do* know, I''d say I prefer older cuts. As for length/width ratio... I tend to like the longer ones... but I can see appeal in the square ones as well. I thought I wanted 1.20-1.30 but 1.10 to 1.20 is nice too. The L/W ratio is becoming less important to me. I just want the right *cut* and... I want it chunky!

 

[lizz]

I like the antique cushions that are elongated. I like the chunky facets, which looks more unique to me than the brilliants. Otherwise, if you''re going to get a cushion brilliant, you may as well get a round.

Really, what I''m getting at, is that I love mine the best!

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 7/15/2006 10:00:53 AM
Author: lizz
I like the antique cushions that are elongated. I like the chunky facets, which looks more unique to me than the brilliants. Otherwise, if you''re going to get a cushion brilliant, you may as well get a round.

Really, what I''m getting at, is that I love mine the best!

And I hope I love mine as much - I''m sure I will if I''ve plopped the money down on it!! Now all I need is lady luck''s help