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Date: 3/2/2010 4:13:08 PM
Author: kenny
IMHO we should all forget about losing weight.


Eat right and exercise and your body will be whatever size it is supposed to be.


Ignore the media messages.

They just want to convince you that what is impossible is possible so they can sell you stuff.

Kenny, I thought it was the other way around. That they convince you, after making you try out lots of different diets and exercise regimens, that it''s impossible to achieve the body you want. That''s always the first assumption in all those infomercials. But THIS product is different. Bleh.

It is totally possible to not be overweight. Too bad that''s becoming the norm.
 
Date: 3/2/2010 6:55:07 PM
Author: Alistra

Was it hard to make your own tofu? I love fresh tofu (some of the Asian restaurants in our area make their own on site) but I have never tried to make it.
It was actually pretty easy! We have a soy milk making machine, so I just:
1. made a couple batches of soy milk (2 cups soybeans before soaking)
2. put it on the stove at medium heat
3. mixed 1.5 tsp nigari (magnesium chloride) into 1/2 cup of lukewarm water
4. added the nigari mixture to the milk, stirred for a couple minutes, turned heat to low, let sit for 15 minutes
5. pour into tofu mold lined with cheesecloth (you can buy one or make your own from tupperware), weight down to press out water, done in another 15 minutes!

If you look up "how to make tofu" you''ll find some guides that will tell you how to make it from scratch, even without the soy milk making machine - though I find this cut down a lot of time and effort. You can also make it without the mold, though you''ll have round tofu instead of a neat block. I made mine when I got home from work, and it was ready in time to make dinner.

Kitcha - I call it suburban sustainability
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. We''re smack-dab in the middle of suburbia, on a lot that''s 1/10 of an acre. We both work full-time, have a kid, a cat, and a dog, so we focus on things that require a minimal time investment.
 
Date: 3/2/2010 7:22:46 PM
Author: Aloros
Date: 3/2/2010 6:55:07 PM

Author: Alistra


Was it hard to make your own tofu? I love fresh tofu (some of the Asian restaurants in our area make their own on site) but I have never tried to make it.

It was actually pretty easy! We have a soy milk making machine, so I just:

1. made a couple batches of soy milk (2 cups soybeans before soaking)

2. put it on the stove at medium heat

3. mixed 1.5 tsp nigari (magnesium chloride) into 1/2 cup of lukewarm water

4. added the nigari mixture to the milk, stirred for a couple minutes, turned heat to low, let sit for 15 minutes

5. pour into tofu mold lined with cheesecloth (you can buy one or make your own from tupperware), weight down to press out water, done in another 15 minutes!


If you look up ''how to make tofu'' you''ll find some guides that will tell you how to make it from scratch, even without the soy milk making machine - though I find this cut down a lot of time and effort. You can also make it without the mold, though you''ll have round tofu instead of a neat block. I made mine when I got home from work, and it was ready in time to make dinner.


Kitcha - I call it suburban sustainability
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. We''re smack-dab in the middle of suburbia, on a lot that''s 1/10 of an acre. We both work full-time, have a kid, a cat, and a dog, so we focus on things that require a minimal time investment.


Thank you Aloros! That doesn''t look too intimidating!
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My husband and I are both vegetarians, and we eat a lot of tofu. I will have to give this a try!
 
I didn''t read the article but will say I did eat entirely whole non-processed foods for 6 weeks. Not once did I deviate from the diet. It was crazy the amount of *cravings* I had. Literally going through withdrawal. When I''d go into the grocery store, the sugary bakery could be smelled from all the way across the place!
 
But here''s the thing---I like processed food. I really really like it. I do not want to live in a universe without cheetohs.
 
As I''m reading this article with a bar of chocolate (hey - at least it''s dark?) in front of me, I guess I''m with lulu on this one
 
I would rather shoot myself in the foot, than live without my favourite British sweeties
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If I did this, I thin my diet would consist entirely of rice and dried seaweed. I can''t cook real food
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Date: 3/2/2010 8:13:51 PM
Author: lulu
But here''s the thing---I like processed food. I really really like it. I do not want to live in a universe without cheetohs.

Yeah, I think it''s a really good idea to limit processed foods,I definitely feel better physically when I do.. but I just don''t think I could give them up entirely...I really enjoy a good meal in a restaurant once in a while, and I can''t imagine a world without ice cream.
 
Date: 3/2/2010 7:22:29 PM
Author: onvacation
Date: 3/2/2010 4:13:08 PM
Author: kenny

IMHO we should all forget about losing weight.
Eat right and exercise and your body will be whatever size it is supposed to be.
Ignore the media messages.
They just want to convince you that what is impossible is possible so they can sell you stuff.
Kenny, I thought it was the other way around. That they convince you, after making you try out lots of different diets and exercise regimens, that it''s impossible to achieve the body you want. That''s always the first assumption in all those infomercials. But THIS product is different. Bleh.
It is totally possible to not be overweight. Too bad that''s becoming the norm.

By "what is impossible" I mean that everyone can be skinny - if you just buy product X.
 
I tried something similar- though I allowed myself a bread type product once a day, with limited dairy. I lost weight like MAD... 4-5lbs a week. Then I stopped. Gained it back.

I''ve been thinking about doing this again. At first I CRAVED chips, cheese.. CHOCOLATE... but then within a few weeks I only wanted a juicy hamburger, veggies and fruit. Hold the extra crap. I want to get back to craving fresh fruit and veggies instead of chocolate.

I really like pasta though
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That''s my vice. And chocolate. And ice cream.
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My follow up question is: Do you know where your "real" foods come from? If you''re buying packaged chicken at the grocery store, well, it might do you well to investigate where it''s coming from.

We try to eat only whole, real food at home. We also try to buy food that''s been ethically raised.
 
Date: 3/2/2010 4:53:24 PM
Author: LitigatorChick
I am constantly astonished at the junk people put in their bodies. I thought I ate healthy, but as soon as you get the real information and make it a priority, you make dramatic changes.

Eat clean for a couple months, then try a big greasy pizza or steak - you will be sick, guaranteed. Your body is no longer being subjected to abuse and won't take it anymore.

Ok for the life of me I can't figure out how to highlight right now. I wanted to point out in your statement that steak is a real food. There is substantial evidence to point out our evolutionary ancestors ate a all forms of steak and meat.

I would mention this caveat that there is a huge difference between a pastured, grass-fed or naturally fed animal, humanely slaughtered (yes, I know some ppl won't agree this can be humane) is very nutrient dense.

Here's where I shill for Joel Salatin who runs Polyface Farms. He's written some books on the subject of farming and providing nutrient dense, real food to his customers. One is titled "Everything I want to do is Illegal"
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Also, the movie Food, Inc which features Joel Salatin has some great points about our food industry, not all of which I agree with in terms of what direction they want to steer it but as Kenny mentioned its too political to discuss on PS.
 
Hmmm I would love to be better about this. And I definitely am moving in the right direction, it''s just hard to get started. One of my problems is I like to stick with recipes I already know how to make. I''m trying to make myself try more new recipes though. I also wish I could buy more organic fruits and veggies but we honestly can''t afford them right now as SO is still in school and I''m a recent grad with an entry level job.

I''d love to have a garden and some chickens but we''re currently in a rental and planning to move elsewhere. Someday.

Also I don''t think I could ever give up chocolate or a few other processed things, but my goal is just to reduce.
 
I''m sure I could. But why would I want to? This is a dare to people who''ve not found their place in the food world, I would say. It sounds like the Martha Stewart mentality applied to all things food. Well, first I tilled the soil, and then I grew the tomatoes, and then I harvested, blanched, diced, and CANNED them. Then I bought bulk olives and SQUOZE them myself, and... Give me a break.

The definition of "real" in that article is a bit too restrictive for my tastes. My husband and I are serious foodies, and I''m not giving up the imported Italian pasta based on the definition that it isn''t "real". Pish posh. I have a pasta machine and could make my own - I have many times. I pay the premium for the labor involved. We shop the edges of the market as much as possible, we do the organic stuff at the farmers'' market (there are very few of them in this benighted state - Whole Foods and its ilk see us as too unedumacated and backwerds and narrow-minded to want high-quality when we can have cheap
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), and we buy our meat from a local meat shop that''s family owned and known for quality. Given our choices, and time constraints, it''s the best we can do. I''ll take up grinding my own wheat when I become unemployed.

What shocks me more than anything is the sheer number of people who cannot or will not actually cook, regardless of whether the ingredients are "real" or not.
 
Date: 3/3/2010 1:32:59 AM
Author: Haven
My follow up question is: Do you know where your ''real'' foods come from? If you''re buying packaged chicken at the grocery store, well, it might do you well to investigate where it''s coming from.

We try to eat only whole, real food at home. We also try to buy food that''s been ethically raised.
This is what I do -DH finds it hysterical when I hunt down the local cage free eggs or only order meat if it''s been grassfed or local.
 
Oh jeez, I think I''m having a good day when I manage a big salad and some fruit! I will say though, that I completely cut soda from my diet, and it made a noticeable difference in how I felt. And for you people who don''t eat dairy - how are you getting calcium?
 
Since having our daughter, we''ve definitely made organic food a priority. But completely nixing all processed food is a bit trickier.

We don''t buy soda, our chicken and meats are untreated, my daughter drinks soy milk. But we do buy our favorite cheese from Vermont and we buy cane sugar for our tea (is Raw brand sugar considered ok?) and we do buy store bought whole grain bread.

We eat lots of raw organic fruits and vegetables. Very interesting article!
 
Date: 3/3/2010 9:12:02 AM
Author: ksinger
I''m sure I could. But why would I want to? This is a dare to people who''ve not found their place in the food world, I would say. It sounds like the Martha Stewart mentality applied to all things food. Well, first I tilled the soil, and then I grew the tomatoes, and then I harvested, blanched, diced, and CANNED them. Then I bought bulk olives and SQUOZE them myself, and... Give me a break.

The definition of ''real'' in that article is a bit too restrictive for my tastes. My husband and I are serious foodies, and I''m not giving up the imported Italian pasta based on the definition that it isn''t ''real''. Pish posh. I have a pasta machine and could make my own - I have many times. I pay the premium for the labor involved. We shop the edges of the market as much as possible, we do the organic stuff at the farmers'' market (there are very few of them in this benighted state - Whole Foods and its ilk see us as too unedumacated and backwerds and narrow-minded to want high-quality when we can have cheap
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), and we buy our meat from a local meat shop that''s family owned and known for quality. Given our choices, and time constraints, it''s the best we can do. I''ll take up grinding my own wheat when I become unemployed.

What shocks me more than anything is the sheer number of people who cannot or will not actually cook, regardless of whether the ingredients are ''real'' or not.
Oh yes, I heartily agree with your entire post.

I only added a follow-up question in my last response because I couldn''t articulate quite what I was thinking in response to the original question. Thank goodness I waited, for now I can easily "ditto" you, ksinger.

We eat a lot of whole foods, but we buy processed foods such as pastas and breads and teas and canned tomatoes. (Oh, I would not be happy without my San Marzano tomatoes, I truly wouldn''t. Last an entire winter without tomatoes in my cooking? Can''t do it.)

We avoid certain ingredients in our foods, such as chemicals and hydrogenated oils and high fructose corn syrup, but we''re very happy with our freshly baked eight ingredient bread from the local bakery, thankyouverymuch.

I will admit that we started to grind our own meat for a while, but that was only until we found a good local place that we trusted to do it for us. And thank goodness, that wasn''t a pleasant chore.

I think it''s one thing to be conscious of what you are eating and where your food comes from and what it contains, but to believe that "processed" and "quality" are mutually exclusive is quite a mistake.
 
Does anyone who eats "real" food/healthy/whatever, have a BF/FI/DH that doesn't? My FI would never go for this type of stuff. He's a very skinny guy, but he loooves processed and junk foods. The produce section is not one we're very familiar with, least of all him
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But, he doesn't know how to cook, I do all of the cooking. And I just don't see how this would work out with one person doing the cooking ..
 
Date: 3/3/2010 11:18:52 AM
Author: lilyfoot
Does anyone who eats ''real'' food/healthy/whatever, have a BF/FI/DH that doesn''t? My FI would never go for this type of stuff. He''s a very skinny guy, but he loooves processed and junk foods. The produce section is not one we''re very familiar with, least of all him
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But, he doesn''t know how to cook, I do all of the cooking. And I just don''t see how this would work out with one person doing the cooking ..
One person does the shopping!

BF and I made a commitment to each other to cook more and eat more healthy foods. We work at eating actual food and not food product - that said, we do buy bread, pasta, sugar, and things like that. We just try to get closest to the raw forms of things, and try to shop the perimeter as much as possible. We have our splurges (I love Honey Bunches of Oats, I just do), but what we''re eating now is amazing compared to what we were eating - frozen meals, Lean Pockets, ramen, mac & cheese, etc. I''m not a great cook, but I''m getting better.

The other thing we did was just stop shopping at massive grocery stores. We do a solid 95% of our shopping at Trader Joes, and even that will be decreasing since I''ve finally found the farmer''s market! We''ve found that by avoiding places with HFCS and other additives we feel better. Our general rule of thumb is if you can''t pronounce the ingredients, you shouldn''t eat it. My favourite pasta has this as the ingredient list: semolina flour, tomatoes, bell peppers, and onions.

That doesn''t mean that we don''t buy Girl Scout cookies or eat peanut butter - but by focusing on what''s in our food, we''ve been a lot happier. I also try to cook a big meal on Sundays to bring for lunch - last week was a red pepper risotto with chicken. This Sunday I''m making paella. Little things like that make it a lot easier to eat this way.
 
Date: 3/3/2010 1:32:59 AM
Author: annadragon

Date: 3/2/2010 4:53:24 PM
Author: LitigatorChick
I am constantly astonished at the junk people put in their bodies. I thought I ate healthy, but as soon as you get the real information and make it a priority, you make dramatic changes.

Eat clean for a couple months, then try a big greasy pizza or steak - you will be sick, guaranteed. Your body is no longer being subjected to abuse and won''t take it anymore.

Ok for the life of me I can''t figure out how to highlight right now. I wanted to point out in your statement that steak is a real food. There is substantial evidence to point out our evolutionary ancestors ate a all forms of steak and meat.

I would mention this caveat that there is a huge difference between a pastured, grass-fed or naturally fed animal, humanely slaughtered (yes, I know some ppl won''t agree this can be humane) is very nutrient dense.

Here''s where I shill for Joel Salatin who runs Polyface Farms. He''s written some books on the subject of farming and providing nutrient dense, real food to his customers. One is titled ''Everything I want to do is Illegal''
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Also, the movie Food, Inc which features Joel Salatin has some great points about our food industry, not all of which I agree with in terms of what direction they want to steer it but as Kenny mentioned its too political to discuss on PS.
I agree that the article called beef "real food" - I don''t consider it to be. While our ancestors did chow down on animal products, they didn''t live very long!!! I don''t really want to aspire to the life of ancient man! Also, there is a lot of information indicating that our bodies were designed to process vegtables and not meat - it takes 72 hours to digest meat while it goes nasty and rancid in our toasty warm bodies!!
 
Date: 3/3/2010 11:41:45 AM
Author: LitigatorChick

Date: 3/3/2010 1:32:59 AM
Author: annadragon


Date: 3/2/2010 4:53:24 PM
Author: LitigatorChick
I am constantly astonished at the junk people put in their bodies. I thought I ate healthy, but as soon as you get the real information and make it a priority, you make dramatic changes.

Eat clean for a couple months, then try a big greasy pizza or steak - you will be sick, guaranteed. Your body is no longer being subjected to abuse and won''t take it anymore.

Ok for the life of me I can''t figure out how to highlight right now. I wanted to point out in your statement that steak is a real food. There is substantial evidence to point out our evolutionary ancestors ate a all forms of steak and meat.

I would mention this caveat that there is a huge difference between a pastured, grass-fed or naturally fed animal, humanely slaughtered (yes, I know some ppl won''t agree this can be humane) is very nutrient dense.

Here''s where I shill for Joel Salatin who runs Polyface Farms. He''s written some books on the subject of farming and providing nutrient dense, real food to his customers. One is titled ''Everything I want to do is Illegal''
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Also, the movie Food, Inc which features Joel Salatin has some great points about our food industry, not all of which I agree with in terms of what direction they want to steer it but as Kenny mentioned its too political to discuss on PS.
I agree that the article called beef ''real food'' - I don''t consider it to be. While our ancestors did chow down on animal products, they didn''t live very long!!! I don''t really want to aspire to the life of ancient man! Also, there is a lot of information indicating that our bodies were designed to process vegtables and not meat - it takes 72 hours to digest meat while it goes nasty and rancid in our toasty warm bodies!!
... meat is why our ancient ancestors died?
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Date: 3/3/2010 11:47:00 AM
Author: elledizzy5


Date: 3/3/2010 11:41:45 AM
Author: LitigatorChick



Date: 3/3/2010 1:32:59 AM
Author: annadragon




Date: 3/2/2010 4:53:24 PM
Author: LitigatorChick
I am constantly astonished at the junk people put in their bodies. I thought I ate healthy, but as soon as you get the real information and make it a priority, you make dramatic changes.

Eat clean for a couple months, then try a big greasy pizza or steak - you will be sick, guaranteed. Your body is no longer being subjected to abuse and won't take it anymore.

Ok for the life of me I can't figure out how to highlight right now. I wanted to point out in your statement that steak is a real food. There is substantial evidence to point out our evolutionary ancestors ate a all forms of steak and meat.

I would mention this caveat that there is a huge difference between a pastured, grass-fed or naturally fed animal, humanely slaughtered (yes, I know some ppl won't agree this can be humane) is very nutrient dense.

Here's where I shill for Joel Salatin who runs Polyface Farms. He's written some books on the subject of farming and providing nutrient dense, real food to his customers. One is titled 'Everything I want to do is Illegal'
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Also, the movie Food, Inc which features Joel Salatin has some great points about our food industry, not all of which I agree with in terms of what direction they want to steer it but as Kenny mentioned its too political to discuss on PS.
I agree that the article called beef 'real food' - I don't consider it to be. While our ancestors did chow down on animal products, they didn't live very long!!! I don't really want to aspire to the life of ancient man! Also, there is a lot of information indicating that our bodies were designed to process vegtables and not meat - it takes 72 hours to digest meat while it goes nasty and rancid in our toasty warm bodies!!
... meat is why our ancient ancestors died?
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yup...no 'organic' chickens.

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The article and food blog challenge do seem to have incredibly strict constraints.

I think the point of the whole thing is education in the form of knowing where your food came from, how it got there, and if you can accept the processing treatments that are present.

Our shopping cart is always mostly produce. My husband has a garden in our backyard and we plan our meals around what''s currently growing well. Broccoli took off this last 2 weeks so I''ve been making everything I can with broccoli. We buy our meats from a butcher who buys from local farmers.

I think a secondary problem that is often overlooked is that the government has placed such ridiculous requirements on some of our favourite local farmers that they no longer can afford to produce the quality and end up shutting down. For example, we had a wonderful goat cheese producer here in the DFW area. He had one building for goats, and about 5 years ago, the gov''t required he build another building for milking the goats. As of this past spring, more gov''t mandates required that he build a separate building for processing the cheese. He couldn''t afford it and shut down shop. Just a sad state of affairs for people who try their best to buy fresh, and buy local.

My husband and I make pasta from scratch, but I draw the line at milling my own flour. Sure, that would be great for an experiment, but I''m doing well to cook dinner every night, let alone doing the experimental things I like to do like make vanilla extract from scratch (super easy, but not much pay off) and make my own cheese for Christmas presents and to stock in our fridge.
 
Date: 3/3/2010 11:47:00 AM
Author: elledizzy5

Date: 3/3/2010 11:41:45 AM
Author: LitigatorChick


Date: 3/3/2010 1:32:59 AM
Author: annadragon



Date: 3/2/2010 4:53:24 PM
Author: LitigatorChick
I am constantly astonished at the junk people put in their bodies. I thought I ate healthy, but as soon as you get the real information and make it a priority, you make dramatic changes.

Eat clean for a couple months, then try a big greasy pizza or steak - you will be sick, guaranteed. Your body is no longer being subjected to abuse and won''t take it anymore.

Ok for the life of me I can''t figure out how to highlight right now. I wanted to point out in your statement that steak is a real food. There is substantial evidence to point out our evolutionary ancestors ate a all forms of steak and meat.

I would mention this caveat that there is a huge difference between a pastured, grass-fed or naturally fed animal, humanely slaughtered (yes, I know some ppl won''t agree this can be humane) is very nutrient dense.

Here''s where I shill for Joel Salatin who runs Polyface Farms. He''s written some books on the subject of farming and providing nutrient dense, real food to his customers. One is titled ''Everything I want to do is Illegal''
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Also, the movie Food, Inc which features Joel Salatin has some great points about our food industry, not all of which I agree with in terms of what direction they want to steer it but as Kenny mentioned its too political to discuss on PS.
I agree that the article called beef ''real food'' - I don''t consider it to be. While our ancestors did chow down on animal products, they didn''t live very long!!! I don''t really want to aspire to the life of ancient man! Also, there is a lot of information indicating that our bodies were designed to process vegtables and not meat - it takes 72 hours to digest meat while it goes nasty and rancid in our toasty warm bodies!!
... meat is why our ancient ancestors died?
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I was simply responding the point that "our ancestors at all forms of steak and meat". The quick point is that I don''t really want to aspire to the life of a caveman - as I understand, life was short and unpleasant! I would rather emulate a more healthy lifestyle! The real point was the second one in my post, which takes far too long to go into - but that our bodies are designed for veggies and our ancestors were primarily vegetarians (though opportunistic carnivores).
 
Yeah, to some extent I just don''t see why milling your own flour is fine but paying someone else to mill it isn''t? We are lucky to have a local mill that makes excellent flours, grains, etc. and it''s all organic and unbleached, etc. I think it''s ridiculous to say that taking the time to do it yourself makes it more real.

Same with bread and cheese. Obviously white bread and American cheese are bad for you, but buying artisan local bread and cheese is not.

Granted, we are lucky to live in a part of the country that has these luxuries available, but still.
 
I wrote a long post but it got eaten. The main thing I was going to say, is that I am all for people eating healthier diets. However this particular challenge seems a bit subjective, and may actually turn people off of trying to eat healthier diets. They are conflating processed with healthy and free of additives. Yogurt is more processed than plain milk but has additional health benefits. Same thing for other fermented foods. Grains that are ground and baked into bread are more digestible and have more nutition available than raw unground grains. I''m not going to keep livestock in my kitchen so I can kill and process it myself. Neither will I give up dried pasta, plum tomatoes in cans or garbanzo beans in cans
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. I guess I have the question when I read these posts, is why can''t Americans be sensible about food? It seems common sense that food is meant to sustain you, and the difference between real food and treats, etc. But it seems Americans can only be on the extremes.
 
"these root vegetables - parsnips and carrots - were covered in a maple glaze"

she's not even following her own rules. Maple syrup - dude it doesn't come out of the tree looking like that!
 
Date: 3/3/2010 11:41:45 AM
Author: LitigatorChick

Date: 3/3/2010 1:32:59 AM
Author: annadragon


Date: 3/2/2010 4:53:24 PM
Author: LitigatorChick
I am constantly astonished at the junk people put in their bodies. I thought I ate healthy, but as soon as you get the real information and make it a priority, you make dramatic changes.

Eat clean for a couple months, then try a big greasy pizza or steak - you will be sick, guaranteed. Your body is no longer being subjected to abuse and won''t take it anymore.

Ok for the life of me I can''t figure out how to highlight right now. I wanted to point out in your statement that steak is a real food. There is substantial evidence to point out our evolutionary ancestors ate a all forms of steak and meat.

I would mention this caveat that there is a huge difference between a pastured, grass-fed or naturally fed animal, humanely slaughtered (yes, I know some ppl won''t agree this can be humane) is very nutrient dense.

Here''s where I shill for Joel Salatin who runs Polyface Farms. He''s written some books on the subject of farming and providing nutrient dense, real food to his customers. One is titled ''Everything I want to do is Illegal''
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Also, the movie Food, Inc which features Joel Salatin has some great points about our food industry, not all of which I agree with in terms of what direction they want to steer it but as Kenny mentioned its too political to discuss on PS.
I agree that the article called beef ''real food'' - I don''t consider it to be. While our ancestors did chow down on animal products, they didn''t live very long!!! I don''t really want to aspire to the life of ancient man! Also, there is a lot of information indicating that our bodies were designed to process vegtables and not meat - it takes 72 hours to digest meat while it goes nasty and rancid in our toasty warm bodies!!
Do you take a daily or weekly vitamin supplement?
 
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