Could This Be The One?

[OvertakenUndertaker]

Hello once again!

I think I have found a great diamond based on the detailed information I have learned from this website. Here are the stats:

Carat weight: 0.40 <----- About what I am looking for, I don't want to push past the .5 carats for the price hike.
Certificate: GIA
Color: J <---------- A little low, but the fluorescence helps out and still appears colorless.
Shape: Round
Clarity: VS2 <----- A little low, but appears eye clean.
Cut: Excellent
Depth %: 60.10
Girdle: Thin-Medium
Table %: 58.00
Culet: NN
Polish: Excellent
Crown ∠: 34.00
Symmetry: Excellent
Fluorescence: Medium <---I like the effect, so this isn't a bad point at all like some articles say.
Pavilion ∠: 40.60
L/W/D (mm): 4.80*4.79*2.88 <--- Pushing close to that 5mm mark
HCA: .6 (Excellent in every category) <--- Seems great!
Image:
(Is it just me, or do you see a small circle in the center of the diamond?)

PRICE: $620

What is your guys' view on this diamond? Worth the buy? I am looking to set it as a solitaire. With the setting, it will be well within budget. The clarity report on the GIA certificate says it has a feather and twinning wisp (just an FYI), but what I have read, at this size it shouldn't be a big deal.

I'm looking forward to your responses!

 

[04diamond<3]

Up to you. It seems that you've done your research and the numbers indicate that the stone will perform well. Do you have a copy of the certificate? or a link to the stone? I wouldn't worry about the inclusions because of the VS2 clarity (which is NOT low) and the size of the diamond.

 

[OvertakenUndertaker]

Up to you. It seems that you've done your research and the numbers indicate that the stone will perform well. Do you have a copy of the certificate? or a link to the stone? I wouldn't worry about the inclusions because of the VS2 clarity (which is NOT low) and the size of the diamond.

I can't get you a copy of the certificate or a link at the moment. I put it on hold, so it's off their site for now.

 

[04diamond<3]

Up to you. It seems that you've done your research and the numbers indicate that the stone will perform well. Do you have a copy of the certificate? or a link to the stone? I wouldn't worry about the inclusions because of the VS2 clarity (which is NOT low) and the size of the diamond.

I can't get you a copy of the certificate or a link at the moment. I put it on hold, so it's off their site for now.

Is this James Allen? If so, if you have the number of your diamond (stock number) you should be able to pull up the link with the certificate.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I can't recall, was your budget $1000 total? Plain setting? The stone looks fine.

 

[OvertakenUndertaker]

Up to you. It seems that you've done your research and the numbers indicate that the stone will perform well. Do you have a copy of the certificate? or a link to the stone? I wouldn't worry about the inclusions because of the VS2 clarity (which is NOT low) and the size of the diamond.

I can't get you a copy of the certificate or a link at the moment. I put it on hold, so it's off their site for now.

Is this James Allen? If so, if you have the number of your diamond (stock number) you should be able to pull up the link with the certificate.

Ahh, did what you said and got the link for you: http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.40-carat-J-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-189181

I can't recall, was your budget $1000 total? Plain setting? The stone looks fine.

Yeah, but from the hints I am getting from her, she wants something a little less spendy so she can plan a destination wedding. So lowering the budget to around $800. This diamond seems like a great size for the price. And yes, it will just be a plain solitaire setting.

 

[04diamond<3]

Up to you. It seems that you've done your research and the numbers indicate that the stone will perform well. Do you have a copy of the certificate? or a link to the stone? I wouldn't worry about the inclusions because of the VS2 clarity (which is NOT low) and the size of the diamond.

I can't get you a copy of the certificate or a link at the moment. I put it on hold, so it's off their site for now.

Is this James Allen? If so, if you have the number of your diamond (stock number) you should be able to pull up the link with the certificate.

Ahh, did what you said and got the link for you: http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/0.40-carat-J-color-VS2-clarity-Excellent-cut-sku-189181

I can't recall, was your budget $1000 total? Plain setting? The stone looks fine.

Yeah, but from the hints I am getting from her, she wants something a little less spendy so she can plan a destination wedding. So lowering the budget to around $800. This diamond seems like a great size for the price. And yes, it will just be a plain solitaire setting.

Honestly, for the price, I think you find a needle in the haystack! Go for it! You can put it in this setting and spend less than $800 on the whole thing! Is the price you posted after the discount JA gives PS members? If not, they do have that, so I'd check.

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/engagement-rings/solitaire/14k-white-gold-2mm-knife-edge-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-7115 (or they have a six prong) .

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I don't think you can do much better at this price point! Oh, and that diamond appears to have brown tint instead of yellow, which I like much better!

 

[OvertakenUndertaker]

Yep, that's the setting I was looking at as well. That is the price after the PS discount. Saved me $40! This site has offered great deals and information.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I would make SURE with them that that feather does not break the surface, because it or another inclusion is very near the surface of the table. And they said it is totally eyeclean, right?

 

[Cricketcat]

I have a .41, IF, F color, 40.8 pa, 34.0 ca, 58.0 table, 60.1 depth. I love my diamond, and haven't been able to upgrade to a bigger size because I like the diamond so much. It has a very distinct arrows pattern to it, and it often appears larger than it's size with incredible sparkle. Last year I purchased a branded hearts and arrows diamond but sent it back after I took the hearts and arrows viewer that came with that diamond and compared the branded hearts and arrows diamond with my .41 diamond. I know every diamond really has to be looked at individually, but I think those numbers look great. Good luck.

 

[OvertakenUndertaker]

I would make SURE with them that that feather does not break the surface, because it or another inclusion is very near the surface of the table. And they said it is totally eyeclean, right?

After reading your post, I went back to the link I posted above to look at it on the JA site. It looks like it might be along the top of the table...that kind of justifies the lower price. I may have to keep looking.

 

[04diamond<3]

I would make SURE with them that that feather does not break the surface, because it or another inclusion is very near the surface of the table. And they said it is totally eyeclean, right?

After reading your post, I went back to the link I posted above to look at it on the JA site. It looks like it might be along the top of the table...that kind of justifies the lower price. I may have to keep looking.

Check with the gemologist first!!!! I thought you had already talked to them and they told you it was eye clean...

 

[OvertakenUndertaker]

Will do. It just looked like it was clean from the pictures, but that little scar across the top is so noticeable now that I saw it.

 

[04diamond<3]

Will do. It just looked like it was clean from the pictures, but that little scar across the top is so noticeable now that I saw it.

You really need to keep in mind that you will not see that IRL! The video is zoomed in over 10x and it's hardly noticeable there....I wouldn't do anything rash until you talk to them. As you've noticed, it's really hard to find anything for the size, color, clarity and especially cut for $620!! Please keep us posted.

 

[OvertakenUndertaker]

I just contacted them and they said that they are confident they will not see the inclusion and that it is noticeable due to the pictures being 20x and 40x magnification. They also stated that when they ship it, the gemologist inspects it and looks for any problems, and if he has a concern, he will contact me before they ship it. They said they are confident it does not break the surface.

 

[04diamond<3]

I just contacted them and they said that they are confident they will not see the inclusion and that it is noticeable due to the pictures being 20x and 40x magnification. They also stated that when they ship it, the gemologist inspects it and looks for any problems, and if he has a concern, he will contact me before they ship it. They said they are confident it does not break the surface.

 

[OvertakenUndertaker]

Would you say that mark is the feather or the twinning wisp? Just curious is all.

 

[04diamond<3]

Would you say that mark is the feather or the twinning wisp? Just curious is all.

That's the feather...I think the twining whisp is in the center of the stone, but since it's not on the GIA report, this is something else you can verify with the gemologist when you talk to them.

 

[CharmyPoo]

Are you willing to go second hand?

 

[OvertakenUndertaker]

Are you willing to go second hand?

That would all depend on the diamonds stats and if it had its certificate.

 

[CharmyPoo]

Please don't take this the wrong way at all although I know it may sound bad.

I know your girlfriend doesn't want you to spend a lot so wouldn't she be happier if you got a great bargain with a second hand stone? I know I would be happy with this scenario. I would have loved my ring more knowing my hubby scored a bargain of a deal. Stones and settings can be had for half the price of retail (or even more off sometimes).

Honestly, I have diamonds in this size range and honestly and I wouldn't' care if it came with a cert of not. But I am also comfortable enough to judge color, cut and clarity with my own eyes and don't need a cert with it. I can always send a stone into EGL or GIA myself after. Over the past year, I have picked up a number of stones in the 0.4 to 0.8 ct range for $200-$300 but they were all old cuts which I like more.

 

[OvertakenUndertaker]

Please don't take this the wrong way at all although I know it may sound bad.

I know your girlfriend doesn't want you to spend a lot so wouldn't she be happier if you got a great bargain with a second hand stone? I know I would be happy with this scenario. I would have loved my ring more knowing my hubby scored a bargain of a deal. Stones and settings can be had for half the price of retail (or even more off sometimes).

Honestly, I have diamonds in this size range and honestly and I wouldn't' care if it came with a cert of not. But I am also comfortable enough to judge color, cut and clarity with my own eyes and don't need a cert with it. I can always send a stone into EGL or GIA myself after. Over the past year, I have picked up a number of stones in the 0.4 to 0.8 ct range for $200-$300 but they were all old cuts which I like more.

Sorry for the late response to your post. I do not plan to pop the question until mid summer, so I let the stress of searching for a ring fade in and out over time, rather than deal with it all at once.

I am not opposed to buying a ring and setting pre-made and already put together through any source. I actually think it would be much more efficient. I assume that the GIA cert, or any certificate for that matter, will not be with the ring when I buy it. I am one of those "show me the proof" kind of guys, or I won't take that situation or object into serious consideration.

I did receive a 40% discount certificate to Riddles Jewelry. I assume they marked up the ring prices at least 50% to make this affordable for them. What should I watch out for if buying through these guys? Or buying a complete ring (setting and diamond) all at once?

Thanks again for all of your guys' excellent advice!

 

[OvertakenUndertaker]

Also, if Riddles did not have anything that strikes my fancy, would it be crazy to take the 40% coupon offer to other local jewelers? As a way to get my business over the big chain getting the business? I don't want to look like a fool if it came down to that. haha!