Comments on this GOG chunky cushion

[kweet]

Hi there! I am looking for a chunky cushion and have seen this one on GOG:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5954/
The link contains an ASET and the specs but just in case it doesn''t work, I have set out its specs at the bottom of my post.

My question is: would you rate this as a good buy? I am very impressed with the weight at 2.46 carat, but I am concerned at the L colour. I had always intended to sacrifice a D-F diamond in favour of some extra weight, but I had hoped to get a H - I colour. However, I am very tempted by the prospect of a 2.46 carat giant!!! I have been emailing Sarah at GOG who is extremely helpful and professional and Sarah has said that the diamond is not a "typical" L and I am getting the impression that it would pass for a whiter diamond, perhaps due to the slight fluorescence...All I''m really concerned about is that it doesn''t look yellowish/brownish if it is put in a platinum setting. I don''t mind (and in fact am interested in) the "warmth" discussed by other posters in relation to OMCs.

Also, I see that there is no info on the GIA cert in relation to the classification of cut. Is this something which can be ascertained from other factors on the cert? I would like something sparkly....

As always, I would be most grateful and appreciative to hear your views and I would really value your opinion. I''m in awe of the informed and helpful advice provided on PS by fellow members such as Lorelei and Jet2ks and Ellen and Chrono (sorry if I''ve forgotten anyone!).

Warmest regards
Kweet


Shape: Old Mine Cushion
Carat Weight: 2.46ct
Color: L
Clarity: VS2
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Good
Fluorescence: Faint
Lab Report: GIA
Lab Report #: 5101739025
In House: Yes
Width: 7.90mm
Length: 8.13mm
Depth: 5.21mm
Table Percentage: 51.10%
Depth Percentage: 65.91%
Crown ∠: 39.83°
Pavilion ∠: 38.34°
Policy: Lifetime Guarantee

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/7/2009 8:50:14 AM
Author:kweet
Hi there! I am looking for a chunky cushion and have seen this one on GOG:

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5954/
The link contains an ASET and the specs but just in case it doesn't work, I have set out its specs at the bottom of my post.

My question is: would you rate this as a good buy? I am very impressed with the weight at 2.46 carat, but I am concerned at the L colour. I had always intended to sacrifice a D-F diamond in favour of some extra weight, but I had hoped to get a H - I colour. However, I am very tempted by the prospect of a 2.46 carat giant!!! I have been emailing Sarah at GOG who is extremely helpful and professional and Sarah has said that the diamond is not a 'typical' L and I am getting the impression that it would pass for a whiter diamond, perhaps due to the slight fluorescence...All I'm really concerned about is that it doesn't look yellowish/brownish if it is put in a platinum setting. I don't mind (and in fact am interested in) the 'warmth' discussed by other posters in relation to OMCs.

Also, I see that there is no info on the GIA cert in relation to the classification of cut. Is this something which can be ascertained from other factors on the cert? I would like something sparkly....

As always, I would be most grateful and appreciative to hear your views and I would really value your opinion. I'm in awe of the informed and helpful advice provided on PS by fellow members such as Lorelei and Jet2ks and Ellen and Chrono (sorry if I've forgotten anyone!).

Warmest regards
Kweet


Shape: Old Mine Cushion
Carat Weight: 2.46ct
Color: L
Clarity: VS2
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Good
Fluorescence: Faint
Lab Report: GIA
Lab Report #: 5101739025
In House: Yes
Width: 7.90mm
Length: 8.13mm
Depth: 5.21mm
Table Percentage: 51.10%
Depth Percentage: 65.91%
Crown ∠: 39.83°
Pavilion ∠: 38.34°
Policy: Lifetime Guarantee

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5954/

Its a lovely diamond but you will see some tint with an L of that size, I have a sizeable L colour round myself, to me it adds to the charm but if you want a whiter diamond then I would see what is available in a higher colour. As for the cut, GIA doesn't grade fancy shapes for cut and these are pretty groundbreaking from Jon for cut!

This thread might help, bear in mind photos don't depict colour or lack of accurately and this is a big stone which might show more warmth, this is AJ's new beauty from Jon which is an L colour - enjoy!!!

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/ajs-ering-downgrade-to-a-gog-omc.119094/

Thanks for your very kind words too, we have a great team here!!!

 

[kweet]

Lorelei thank you so much, as ever. ArjunaJane''s ring is just stunning and has allayed my fears about the colour. Also, I am already so impressed with GOG and after hearing AJ''s experience, I want to give them my business as I feel that they are good people dedicated to their craft and to excellent customer service.

 

[jet2ks]

Oh, THAT chunky cushion! kweet, if you are OK with the color and that is the stone that "speaks" to you, it would be a great choice. There have been many PSers drooling over that one since Jon''s video first came out.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/7/2009 9:09:25 AM
Author: kweet
Lorelei thank you so much, as ever. ArjunaJane''s ring is just stunning and has allayed my fears about the colour. Also, I am already so impressed with GOG and after hearing AJ''s experience, I want to give them my business as I feel that they are good people dedicated to their craft and to excellent customer service.

Most welcome Kweet and you are absolutely right about GOG, they are great vendors and great people!

 

[vintagelover229]

The stone is beautiful! I just want to throw it out there as an FYI if you dont already know...you may want to reserve the stone. The new chunky cushions are going fast, most being spoken for before even being cut. That is a beautiful stone, that is over 2 carats, for under 10k...and a lurker might snatch that baby up!

If you do get it...you MUST post pics

 

[Kasey3]

Hi Kweet

I had the opportunity to spend about a half hour with this stone, looking at it in various conditions-and it it a beautiful stone! IMO it has the perfect cushion shape, and culet, and it throws off beautiful rainbows-but it does show some warmth. I compared it to my J cushion and the L was definately warmer. That said, when I looked at the diamond on Jonathan''s finger away from my J my fist reaction was "wow" it''s a gorgeous stone, not "wow" look at the warmth. If you are color sensitive then you might want to find a cushion in the G-H range. Don''t feel presure for fear that all of the new cushions are spoken for-just call Jonathan and see if you can order one in a size and color range that will fit your needs.

 

[DiamondFlame]

Well said, Kasey.

I think for many people, cut speaks louder than color. I'll wager that the first thing you'll notice about that 2.46 ct L is its broad, chunky flashes and its hefty presence. And only in more subdued ambient lighting will you notice its warmth, it's ivory whiteness and realise that hey, you don't mind it at all! That's when your upgrade possibilities get much more interesting.

In any case I always feel KLM and lower colors flatter the cushion better the whiter colors D-H.

 

[CPF0RY0U]

Why do all of them seem to have a fairly huge culet? Is this by design?

 

[stone-cold11]

Date: 7/9/2009 10:50:05 AM
Author: CPF0RY0U
Why do all of them seem to have a fairly huge culet? Is this by design?

Yap, by design.

 

[jet2ks]

Date: 7/9/2009 10:50:05 AM
Author: CPF0RY0U
Why do all of them seem to have a fairly huge culet? Is this by design?

The large open culet is typical of an original OMC. Jon''s diamonds are based on those antique cut ones, just with better optics.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/9/2009 10:50:05 AM
Author: CPF0RY0U
Why do all of them seem to have a fairly huge culet? Is this by design?

This is often a typical feature of this type of vintage diamond which Jon has incorporated into his designs.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/9/2009 11:05:21 AM
Author: jet2ks

Date: 7/9/2009 10:50:05 AM
Author: CPF0RY0U
Why do all of them seem to have a fairly huge culet? Is this by design?

The large open culet is typical of an original OMC. Jon''s diamonds are based on those antique cut ones, just with better optics.

Right. And I can attest to the optics part, at least from looking at videos of his new cushions, which are a fairly good representation, compared to my real OMC. Though if anything, in person they will look even better, as we have 2 "eyes" and the camers only has one, so it "sees" less than we do. My OMC doesn''t perform anywhere near as well as Jon''s stones seem to.

Here''s a pic of it, over a hundred years old. I chose a picture that really shows the culet, but it doesn''t look like this in real life. (the camera causes it to really show up, it''s blocking light from it) My eyes are older and my stone is smaller than yours. I don''t even see the culet really in real life, but it absolutely wouldn''t bother me if I did. These stones are so charming!

 

[CPF0RY0U]

I guess for me, it''s hard to get over it, because the culet shows in the IdealScope as white leakage.

Maybe I will have to fly over to NY one of these days to take a look at it.

 

[kweet]

Thanks for all your comments girls and guys. Ellen your stone is beautiful. Clearly a D color RB looks just amazing, but I think that the allure of these old and old-style diamonds is different - they look "softer" that they have a lot of personality - as you said Lorelei, they don''t just sit there and be white! No doubt I''ll be on to you guys again when I get closer to my purchase!

 

[chrono]

I have a 1.64 L GOG OMC and yes, it does show warmth but it isn’t yellow or brown. Comparing a DEF to JKL is like the comparison between cold fluorescent and the warm soft white light bulb. You will see the difference but I am accepting of warm colours in old cut stones so it does not bother me. In fact, I am so wowed by the sparkle that it is difficult to see the true body colour. As for the culet, that is part of the charm of old cut stones. All old cuts like OMCs and OECs have a culet. In person, I find it difficult to see though. In fact, I wish mine is a tad larger.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 7/10/2009 8:59:52 AM
Author: Chrono
I have a 1.64 L GOG OMC and yes, it does show warmth but it isn’t yellow or brown. Comparing a DEF to JKL is like the comparison between cold fluorescent and the warm soft white light bulb. You will see the difference but I am accepting of warm colours in old cut stones so it does not bother me. In fact, I am so wowed by the sparkle that it is difficult to see the true body colour. As for the culet, that is part of the charm of old cut stones. All old cuts like OMCs and OECs have a culet. In person, I find it difficult to see though. In fact, I wish mine is a tad larger.

ditto C on all accounts.
Mine is am M, but all the colours and lights it picks up from the surrounds,
makes it difficult to detect the body colour at all.
I also agree about the culet, it wouldn't be the same without them. It does not to my eye
cause any detrimental type of leakage - just an extra facet basically. And in normal viewing conditions (ie. admiring on your hand), isn't even visible at all.

Here's a pic to show what the culet looks like up reeeally close, and also the colours
you can expect to see reflected:

 

[DiamondFlame]

I feel an OMC is not an OMC without that visible culet. And without it, I don''t think you''d get the Kozibe effect either... am I right?

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/10/2009 10:59:48 AM
Author: DiamondFlame
I feel an OMC is not an OMC without that visible culet. And without it, I don''t think you''d get the Kozibe effect either... am I right?

You are! However, some don''t like that either. Just a matter of taste.

 

[audball]

So, I have been drooling over this stone and noticed today that it is no longer listed! ....did you buy it??

 

[jstarfireb]

Date: 7/10/2009 11:36:41 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 7/10/2009 10:59:48 AM

Author: DiamondFlame

I feel an OMC is not an OMC without that visible culet. And without it, I don''t think you''d get the Kozibe effect either... am I right?

You are! However, some don''t like that either. Just a matter of taste.

Yup, FWIW I love a cute little open culet but prefer minimal to no Kozibe. And kweet, the stone is gorgeous!

 

[audball]

*bump!

Did you buy it???? I can''t wait to see more pictures...

 

[kweet]

Hi Aud
No I didn''t, think that a lurker got to it before me. I wasn''t meant to be. Timing is everything!

 

[kweet]

Just in case I sounded very disappointed in my previous post, I''m fine about it - I mean I hadn''t totally made up my mind on it so I didn''t put it aside. It must not have been The One! (or if it is, it will be returned to GOG by the purchaser!)

 

[audball]

Oh no!!! I was SOOO hoping a PSer got it so I could drool a little more...

Maybe the lurker will realize L color isn''t their cup of tea and return it so you can buy it

 

[Rock_of_Love]

I bet a PSer probably did...that 2.46 L chunky cushion has been drooled over quite a bit on these threads!!

 

[iota]

Well... to whoever bought it out there, we want pictures!!!

 

[audball]

Date: 7/22/2009 5:27:37 PM
Author: iota
Well... to whoever bought it out there, we want pictures!!!

Big DITTO!

 

[joelly]

Date: 7/22/2009 7:42:44 AM
Author: kweet
Just in case I sounded very disappointed in my previous post, I''m fine about it - I mean I hadn''t totally made up my mind on it so I didn''t put it aside. It must not have been The One! (or if it is, it will be returned to GOG by the purchaser!)

kweet, how about the other one, 1.64ct?

 

[kweet]

I have some time, so I think I''m going to hold out for a little longer to get something a little bit larger. Any idea when GOG is getting more cushions in?