Clueless man needs help for Engagement

lereveur · Nov 8, 2011

I need to find the perfect engagement ring for my girlfriend. She loves antique jewelry. She practically collects them.
My morale is low at this point. I haven't found the perfect one yet. She doesn't like plain white diamonds. I would like to have some color accents or a yellow diamond ring. She loves emeralds, sapphires, but not rubies.

Anyone have an suggestions? My price cap is at 8 grand. Recommendations would be great

missy · Nov 8, 2011

Hi and welcome to PS. I would recommend checking out some trusted and respected vendors including Erica Grace jewels, Old World Diamonds and Singlestone. Sometimes Dover has good ebay sales as well.

http://www.jewelsbyericagrace.com
www.singlestone.com
www.doverjewelry.com

Good luck and congrats on your upcoming proposal!

marymm · Nov 8, 2011

What about this ring from Lang Antiques? It definitely isn't a plain white diamond - it is an antique 1.20ct L-SI1 rose-cut diamond (over 100 hundred years old) that Lang set into a Art Deco style mounting custom-made for the stone... one-of-a-kind, under your budget, and just gorgeous in my opinion! Here's the web-page: http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-4410

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-a

diamondseeker2006 · Nov 8, 2011

This would be gorgeous in an antique style setting!!!

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7557/

http://www.singlestone.com/index.php?page=collections&catID=3&pID=798&startRow=7

I think this could be gorgeous if she would give you a 7 day unconditional return policy in writing (you'd have to call and ask):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-ART-DECO-1ct-DIAMOND-2-45ct-SAPPHIRE-RING-1930-/230491246230?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35aa594e96#ht_868wt_1270

chupiechow · Nov 8, 2011

I absolutely LOVE the ring from Langs....In fact I almost bought it! The only reason I didn't is because it doesn't look like it would be comfortable, especially for daily wear.

galeteia · Nov 8, 2011

lereveur|1320737631|3056665 said:
I need to find the perfect engagement ring for my girlfriend. She loves antique jewelry. She practically collects them.
My morale is low at this point. I haven't found the perfect one yet. She doesn't like plain white diamonds. I would like to have some color accents or a yellow diamond ring. She loves emeralds, sapphires, but not rubies.

Anyone have an suggestions? My price cap is at 8 grand. Recommendations would be great

If she has antique pieces now, can you sneak pictures of them, or even ask her to give you inspiration links?

Does she want a yellow diamond, a coloured gemstone, or simply a warm diamond like those in the lower ranges? Lower colour diamonds look AMAZING in an Old Cut. Does she antique cut diamonds? (such as Old European Cuts or Old Mine Cuts?) Or is she just not a diamond girl? Or is it that she doesn't like the white-white modern cuts?

You have an army of antique addicts waiting to help, but we need more info!

lereveur · Nov 8, 2011

Galateia|1320782278|3057139 said:
lereveur|1320737631|3056665 said:

I need to find the perfect engagement ring for my girlfriend. She loves antique jewelry. She practically collects them.
My morale is low at this point. I haven't found the perfect one yet. She doesn't like plain white diamonds. I would like to have some color accents or a yellow diamond ring. She loves emeralds, sapphires, but not rubies.

Anyone have an suggestions? My price cap is at 8 grand. Recommendations would be great

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If she has antique pieces now, can you sneak pictures of them, or even ask her to give you inspiration links?

Does she want a yellow diamond, a coloured gemstone, or simply a warm diamond like those in the lower ranges? Lower colour diamonds look AMAZING in an Old Cut. Does she antique cut diamonds? (such as Old European Cuts or Old Mine Cuts?) Or is she just not a diamond girl? Or is it that she doesn't like the white-white modern cuts?

You have an army of antique addicts waiting to help, but we need more info!

Haha sorry. I think it'd be too obvious to ask her for pictures of her rings. But I will probably ask one of her friends to sneak pictures for me.

She is a diamond girl, she just doesn't like the "white-white modern cuts" as you put it

She loves yellow diamonds and she also does love old european cuts. She only likes white gold and platinum. I know this because I've heard her on the phone while she was shopping around for a new ring lol

What I am hoping to find (with help

)
A yellow diamond ring in my price range with sides stones
OR a white diamond ring with emerald or sapphire accents
OR a yellow, blue, or blue green sapphire with diamond side stones

I found The Natural Sapphire Company online for sapphires but I'm not sure about them because I have read not so good reviews.

stci · Nov 8, 2011

My opinion is search for art deco ring.

Examples:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ESTATE-ART-D...945?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3efd817c39

I think your lady is like me. We have the same taste in matter of jewelry. Take a look at Mels Antique or Israel Rose on the web, you will find treasures!

lereveur · Nov 8, 2011

stci|1320807751|3057503 said:
My opinion is search for art deco ring.

Examples:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ESTATE-ART-D...945?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3efd817c39

I think your lady is like me. We have the same taste in matter of jewelry. Take a look at Mels Antique or Israel Rose on the web, you will find treasures!

YES ART DECO! That is what I was looking for. I just couldn't think of the term

The rings you posted are very much what I am looking for. I think I like emerald one better but I'm not sure about the onyx

And you're the closest one to her taste so far. I think you definitely have the same taste. Thank you so much

Loves Vintage · Nov 8, 2011

Have you looked at Singlestone? This photo will probably be very small, but it's a lovely vintage ring. Not sure if this page link will work, but the ring with sapphires is also very nice! http://singlestone.com/index.php?page=collections&catID=14&startRow=13

Cluless · Nov 9, 2011

This is a beauty!

http://www.rubylane.com/item/514555-rl-754/2-16-Carat-Diamond-Sapphire

yennyfire · Nov 9, 2011

I love this one and it's way under your budget. It has everything (I think) that you're looking for.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Art-deco-Antique-Estate-european-Diamond-sapphire-platinum-ring-/110758155695?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9b355af

Here's another one with a sapphire as the star....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Art-deco-Antique-Estate-european-Diamond-sapphire-platinum-ring-/110758155695?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9b355af

With emerald accents....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-ART-DECO-1-50ct-DIAMOND-EMERALD-ENGAGEMENT-RING-/250926230724?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6c5e6cc4

If I'm in the ballpark, let me know and I'll keep looking!

lereveur · Nov 9, 2011

yennyfire|1320881221|3058153 said:
I love this one and it's way under your budget. It has everything (I think) that you're looking for.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Art-deco-Antique-Estate-european-Diamond-sapphire-platinum-ring-/110758155695?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9b355af

Here's another one with a sapphire as the star....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Art-deco-Antique-Estate-european-Diamond-sapphire-platinum-ring-/110758155695?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c9b355af

With emerald accents....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-ART-DECO-1-50ct-DIAMOND-EMERALD-ENGAGEMENT-RING-/250926230724?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6c5e6cc4

If I'm in the ballpark, let me know and I'll keep looking!

Definitely in the ballpark. I like the sapphire one

vintagelover229 · Nov 10, 2011

stci · Nov 10, 2011

What a find Vintagelover!

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/Jewelry/Rings-Antique-diamonds/1ct-Old-European-Cut-Diamond/17507528_HQ4kt5#1335812199_FJtfqxH

Really fantastic! Wow!

lereveur · Nov 10, 2011

Thank you for your help everyone! I think I'm now narrowing down my favorites with her friends. I will post again, and please help me decide down to one when I do!

Cluless · Nov 12, 2011

Very beautiful also and under budget!

http://www.berganza.com/jewellery_ref_16249.htm?page_num=0&page_size=0

backwardsandinheels · Nov 16, 2011

Saturn Designs in NYC specializes in Art Deco and Edwardian styles (Edwardian is the period 15 years before Art Deco during Prince Edward's reign). They are gorgeous and the workmanship is excellent. Just make sure of your most preferred shape because once you start looking at all of their beauties it will confuse the crap out of you

They have much more in house then they post online. Can't wait, she's gonna love it with all of these great leads for you.

pregcurious · Dec 2, 2011

Does Saturn Designs (www.saturnjewels.com) have a brick and mortar store in NYC?! If so, what is the address? I thought that only partial selections of their line were carried by retailers.

lereveur · Feb 23, 2012

I'M BACK with more questions

From this post you will see that I have not yet proposed to my girlfriend. I did not have the chance to find the perfect ring before I left so now I'm back with more information to share. I hope you guys and ladies can still help me. She knows it is inevitable that I will propose so she's been hinting, and I have asked her friends to help me out and ask her.

What I found out...
1. She said she "loves loves loves" Edwardian and Art deco pieces. (In the saturnjewels.com intro she loved the piece by Peter Williams.)
2. She does not like plain bands, and would prefer smaller diamonds on the band.
3. Loves the halo style, diamonds surrounding center stone
4. Loves vintage/antique jewelry because of the history and craftsmanship
5. Platinum is the ideal metal but will like white gold. No yellow or rose gold
6. Does not like round cut. Likes Cushion, Radiant, Emerald
7. Does not like plain white diamond rings. Would prefer yellow diamond or a diamond center stone with emerald or sapphire side stones.
8. She doesn't want me to spend more than 7 grand but I still say my price cap is 8 grand
9. The center stone should be around 1ct.

Something like this would be great if it was not round...
http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.com/Jewelry/Rings-Antique-Vintage/1ct-Old-European-Cut-Diamond/17507528_HQ4kt5#!i=1335812199&k=FJtfqxH

I'm hoping to find something with all these qualities. A long shot?

LibbyLA · Feb 24, 2012

Perhaps you could convince her that an old European cut isn't the same as a plain old round

Amys Bling · Feb 24, 2012

That is a stunning ring. Maybe you could check Dover Jewelry? Keep in mind that sometimes their appraisals are a little off - but maybe they have something you are looking for and you can negotiate good terms

lereveur · Feb 24, 2012

LibbyLA|1330092136|3133244 said:
Perhaps you could convince her that an old European cut isn't the same as a plain old round ? That's a beautiful ring!

Round OEC stone, but in a hexagonal setting, way under budget:

http://www.rubylane.com/item/726095-JWL158/Stunning-Art-Deco-Platinum-Diamond

Yellow transitional round, ruby halo, way under budget:

http://www.rubylane.com/item/490404-ADRubyYellow/Spectacular-Art-Deco-Platinum-1

Probably not what you are looking for, but...

http://www.rubylane.com/item/700271-lgv1341/Superb-Art-Deco-Platinum-1

http://www.rubylane.com/item/449282-5806/Platinum-Diamond-engagement-ring-stunning

round, but four prong makes it look more squarish:

http://www.rubylane.com/item/449282-5804/Platinum-Diamond-Art-Deco-engagement

http://www.rubylane.com/item/571649-130-00222/Art-Deco-Platinum-Diamond-Engagement

http://www.rubylane.com/item/514555-rl-866/1-52-Carat-European-Diamond

http://www.rubylane.com/item/514555-rl-859/1-20-Carat-Diamond-Sapphire

round, out of budget, larger than you wanted, but very blingy!

http://www.rubylane.com/item/514555-rl-764/1-80-Carat-European-Cut

http://www.rubylane.com/item/510967-KAx20Artx20Decox20Ringx2032/Art-Deco-Platinum-Diamond-Ring

WAY out of budget, but the first cushion I found:

http://www.rubylane.com/item/518197-RGC11344G/Vintage-Art-Deco-Ruby-Diamond

round smaller center, but interesting:

http://www.rubylane.com/item/571649-100-00522/Platinum-Art-Deco-Illusion-set

I searched all Ruby Lane stores for "platinum engagement ring". Didn't look for white gold but there may be even more of those. Anyway, I think you will be able to find something lovely for your budget if these links are any indication, although finding a non-round could be a challenge.

I'm looking forward to seeing what you find!

liz

Thank you for the suggestions. I really like the first link you posted but the hand that models them looks like it is suffocating

purplesilk · Feb 25, 2012

purplesilk · Feb 25, 2012

Too simple? Too round?
http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-4081
http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-3938
http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-3844

purplesilk · Feb 25, 2012

Rose cut:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-VINTAGE-ROSE-CUT-DIAMOND-FILIGREE-ENGAGEMENT-RING-PLATINUM-D-1-00CT-/170778089097?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item27c32ad689

European and old mine:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-D-1-20CT-H-I-SI1-SIZE-5-75-UK-L-PLATINUM-ESTATE-/170776029194?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item27c30b680a
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-D-1-51CT-I-J-VS2-SIZE-6-5-UK-M1-2-PLATINUM-MOUNT-/190636041816?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item2c62cb2658

Cushion:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-00CT-CUSHION-CUT-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-BAND-/200719159165?pt=Wedding_Sets&hash=item2ebbcb4f7d

Yellow:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-D-1-47-SIZE-7-UK-N1-2-CANARY-IRRADIATED-VS-2-/180820739366?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item2a19c18526
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-20CT-CUSHION-CUT-FANCY-YELLOW-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-RADGEMENT-RING-CFY2-/190637223499?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item2c62dd2e4b

I'd choose a bunch of rings and ask the experts' opinions on the RockyTalky forum.

lereveur · Feb 25, 2012

purplesilk|1330160745|3134036 said:
Rose cut:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-VINTAGE-ROSE-CUT-DIAMOND-FILIGREE-ENGAGEMENT-RING-PLATINUM-D-1-00CT-/170778089097?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item27c32ad689

European and old mine:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-D-1-20CT-H-I-SI1-SIZE-5-75-UK-L-PLATINUM-ESTATE-/170776029194?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item27c30b680a
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-D-1-51CT-I-J-VS2-SIZE-6-5-UK-M1-2-PLATINUM-MOUNT-/190636041816?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item2c62cb2658

Cushion:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-00CT-CUSHION-CUT-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-BAND-/200719159165?pt=Wedding_Sets&hash=item2ebbcb4f7d

Yellow:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-D-1-47-SIZE-7-UK-N1-2-CANARY-IRRADIATED-VS-2-/180820739366?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item2a19c18526
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-20CT-CUSHION-CUT-FANCY-YELLOW-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-RADGEMENT-RING-CFY2-/190637223499?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item2c62dd2e4b

I'd choose a bunch of rings and ask the experts' opinions on the RockyTalky forum.

Thank you for all the help purplesilk. I do really like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-D-1-51CT-I-J-VS2-SIZE-6-5-UK-M1-2-PLATINUM-MOUNT-/190636041816?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_with_Accents&hash=item2c62cb2658#ht_1871wt_952

I think with the options everyone has shown me, we have narrowed it down to 10 choices

I'll ask the RockyTalky forum. Hopefully they won't mind me posting almost a dozen ring stats.

ariel144 · Mar 25, 2012

Well, my idea is a little over budget but found this amazing SQUARE cushion INTENSE YELLOW GIA SI2 diamond for $8k ...the cut is perfect for a nice cushion...mid 60's depth and mid 50's table. INTENSE YELLOW is very highly desirable and the square cushions are very sought after. The resale on a cushion is so much better than a radiant cut diamond...I KNOW because i just sold my radiant cut 2c diamond and could have gotten 3 times the price if it had been a cushion cut diamond (according to the dealer).

You could have it set in a plain 14k white gold setting and then let her pick an antique setting or design one herself.
Oh, and this stone has medium blue florescence so in some lighting it might look green, which would be a color change diamond...another highly desirable feature of this stone. It would be amazing set with blue sapphire side stones.

Ronni is the owner of buydiamonddirect and I purchased my 2c radiant from him 6 years ago. He is great to deal with. There are cheaper cushions but this one looks amazing and the only GIA intense yellow with great numbers and EX/VG

You only do this once and she wants a colored stone.

33313149 1.71 Fancy Intense Yellow SI2 GIA 66.3 56 Slightly Thick-Very Thick None Excellent Very Good Medium Blue 6.68x6.68x4.43 1:1.00 $8,156.70

http://buydiamonddirect.com/details/detailGIA.asp?ITEM=33313149

Our Item Number Is 33313149
Price Is $ $8,156.70

Weight 1.71

Shape Cushion Modified
Measurements 6.68x6.68x4.43

Proportions
Depth 66.3
Table 56
Girdle Slightly Thick-Very Thick
Culet None

Finish
Polish Excellent
Symmetry Very Good

Clarity Grade SI2

Color Grade Fancy Intense Yellow

Fluorescence Medium Blue

Here are some cheaper fancy yellow cushions, you can do a search at the site and find the links;
33914226 1.31 Fancy Yellow VS1 GIA 65.7 60 Thin-Thick None Excellent Good None 6.06x6.00x3.94 1.01:1.00 $5,969.59
34423525 1.50 Fancy Yellow VVS2 GIA 65.8 60 Very Thick-Extr. Thick Very Good Good None 6.69x6.12x4.03 1.09:1.00 $6,678.00
33907832 1.57 Fancy Yellow SI1 GIA 66.6 57 Thin-Thick None Very Good Good None 6.84x6.38x4.25 1.07:1.00 $7,072.85
33914227 1.51 Fancy Light Yellow VS1 GIA 67.0 55 Medium-Very Thick None Very Good Very Good Faint 6.56x6.37x4.27 1.03:1.00 $7,041.04
32974125 1.58 Fancy Yellow SI2 GIA 63.1 54 Thick Very Good Good Faint 6.90x6.32x3.99 1.09:1.00 $6,699.20

Here are some settings on ebay that might work for a square cushion cut diamond.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170806424136?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251012501600?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/14K-GOLD-HALO-PAVE-ROUND-DIAMOND-WEDDING-RING-SETTING-/251012483542?_trksid=m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7242389746573291308

Lots to think about...good luck!

PS: that setting posted above is awesome:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-00CT-CUSHION-CUT-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-BAND-/200719159165?pt=Wedding_Sets&hash=item2ebbcb4f7d

ariel144 · Mar 25, 2012

OH, wow, as you can see from these prices of fancy green diamonds they are very rare and EXPENSIVE, and the cuts are not very good for a cushion. But check out those prices!

32634158 1.70 Fancy Green I1 GIA 54.5 67 Medium-Extr. Thin None Good Good Faint 7.48x7.25x3.95 1.03:1.00 $90,100.00
32645369 1.79 Fancy Intense Green SI1 GIA 63.3 71 Extr. Thick None Good Good Very Strong Green 7.20x6.54x4.14 1.1:1.00 $106,254.40

Does anyone one know the effect of blue florescence on a yellow diamond???
Does it make the diamond look green in certain lighting????

yellow + blue makes green when mixed, but don't know if it would have that same effect in a diamond.

lereveur · Apr 17, 2012

I apologize for bouncing in and out of pricescope. My hectic life seems to give me no time to myself. But now it is crunch time for me to find this perfect ring

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