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grlnxtdoor

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hi all!

I am very close to purchasing a stone, but I am very confused. The diamond rates a 1.9 HCA, which from what I read and researched, this is good. However, I am concern about the feather and cloud on the table. Do you think this will be an issue since it is on the table?

Are the ratios okay? I read the table should ideally be 55-57%. Please help, I am so confused.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.90-carat-g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-663096

SHAPE: Round
CARAT WEIGHT: 1.90
COLOR: G
CLARITY: SI1
CUT: Excellent
POLISH: Excellent
SYMMETRY: Excellent
FLUORESCENCE: None
L/W/D (MM): 7.96*8.02*4.84

L/W RATIO: 1.01
DEPTH %: 60.50
GIRDLE: Slightly Thick
TABLE %: 60.00
CULET: None
CERTIFICATE: GIA
 

Gypsy

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Re: close to buying a diamond, but so confused. help please!

That's because most people on these boards prefer Tolk style MRB to 60/60 style MRB.

60/60 will favor white light over colored and fire. And generally, like the one you have, they are spreadier. It's just a different style of stone.

Here's more information on both:
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/tolkowsky-ideal-cut-diamond
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/60-60-proportioned-diamond

Also this on table size:
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-table-size

I personally prefer my 60/60 stones to have a pavilion angle of 40.6-40.8, not 41 like that one, but it is within acceptable range (41.2 is the line for a 60/60) for good performance.

60/60 stones are also discounted by the trade. So if you are looking to maximize budget they can be a great way to save money and eek out more size, as long as you stay within the parameters for acceptable performance.

Ask JA if they can get you an idealscope image of that. Personally, I would not buy a stone with a 41 degree pavilion angle without an IS. But that may be a risk you are willing to take. This explains what an IS is and does (idealscope or firescope): https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/firescope-idealscope
 

grlnxtdoor

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Re: close to buying a diamond, but so confused. help please!

Gypsy|1453791985|3981604 said:
That's because most people on these boards prefer Tolk style MRB to 60/60 style MRB.

60/60 will favor white light over colored and fire. And generally, like the one you have, they are spreadier. It's just a different style of stone.

Here's more information on both:
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/tolkowsky-ideal-cut-diamond
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/60-60-proportioned-diamond

Also this on table size:
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-table-size

I personally prefer my 60/60 stones to have a pavilion angle of 40.6-40.8, not 41 like that one, but it is within acceptable range (41.2 is the line for a 60/60) for good performance.

60/60 stones are also discounted by the trade. So if you are looking to maximize budget they can be a great way to save money and eek out more size, as long as you stay within the parameters for acceptable performance.

Ask JA if they can get you an idealscope image of that. Personally, I would not buy a stone with a 41 degree pavilion angle without an IS. But that may be a risk you are willing to take. This explains what an IS is and does (idealscope or firescope): https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/firescope-idealscope
Thank you so much for your input, I really appreciate it!! JA is going to send me an Ideal Scope- I will post it as soon as they do.

What are your thoughts on this stone?
GIA REPORT NUMBER
5176375934


ROUND BRILLIANT

Measurements
7.92 - 7.95 x 4.93 mm
Carat Weight
1.92 carat
Color Grade
G
Clarity Grade
SI1
Cut Grade
Excellent
PROPORTIONS

Depth
62.1 %
Table
58 %
Crown Angle
35.0°
Crown Height
15.0%
Pavilion Angle
41.2°
Pavilion Depth
43.5%
Star Length
50%
Lower Half
80%
Girdle
Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 4.0%
Culet
None
 

Gypsy

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Re: close to buying a diamond, but so confused. help please!

It's a straight no for me on that one.
 

grlnxtdoor

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Re: close to buying a diamond, but so confused. help please!

grlnxtdoor|1453845388|3981969 said:
Gypsy|1453844710|3981958 said:
It's a straight no for me on that one.
Thanks Gypsy!
Hi Gypsy!

JA just sent me the IS report and I think it looks good. I appreciate your thoughts and expertise.

Thanks! 663096.jpg
 

grlnxtdoor

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Re: close to buying a diamond, but so confused. help please!

Gypsy|1453844710|3981958 said:
It's a straight no for me on that one.
Hi Gypsy! Was hoping to get your expertise on this IS report. Thank you so much!
 

Gypsy

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Re: close to buying a diamond, but so confused. help please!

Which stone is that. What are the crown and pavilion angles?
 

Gypsy

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Re: close to buying a diamond, but so confused. help please!

It's very good for a large budget stone. It's a 60'/60 style with TINY bit of leakage, nothing that is going to be visually material. And considering 60/60's are discounted by the trade and it's just under 2 carats with 8mm spread, I'd say it's a great find and a fantastic value.

I'd buy it.
 

grlnxtdoor

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Re: close to buying a diamond, but so confused. help please!

Gypsy|1454655336|3987080 said:
It's very good for a large budget stone. It's a 60'/60 style with TINY bit of leakage, nothing that is going to be visually material. And considering 60/60's are discounted by the trade and it's just under 2 carats with 8mm spread, I'd say it's a great find and a fantastic value.

I'd buy it.

Thanks so much for your time and expertise!!
 
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