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ksto432

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Hello All,

I am a first time poster, so forgive me for not knowing everything right away.

I am trying to decide between two oval diamonds. They are both James Allen jewels and their sku #s are 525464 and 324356. Their ASET images are attached. 324356.jpg525464.jpg 324365 is the one with the clear bow tie effect.

My question is, which one has better light performance? The sales associate at James Allen informed me her favorite was 525464, as it has no bow tie, and has a crushed ice effect that makes it sparkle. Since I have the images, I wanted some second opinions on these two diamond from others not associated with James Allen, and from those who are more experienced at deciphering ASET images.

A quick search on this website also revealed a 1.54 carat J-VS2 diamond around my price budget from solomon brothers, which is local to me. The GIA report for that one is attached as well. solomon_bros.png but I am much more hesitant to make a purchase without an ASET image, especially when the only way I can view the solomon bros. diamond is in their brick and mortar store under bright lights that will make anything look incredible.

Please advise and help! The two James Allen jewels will only be held for 24 hours so please reply quickly!

Thanks again.
 
Okay nevermind, I had the sku's switched with the ASET. The 1st one is actually more similar to mine. The 'bow tie' does not show up dark IRL, and is very pretty! TBH I wouldn't pay for D IF, but it is really pretty.
 
Telephone89,

Did you post something before this one? It seems I'm missing some information.
 
I like the shape of the second stone better, but it would be good to post the links so we can see the actual stones. Ovals simply are not as brilliant as some other stones, so you rarely see a great ASET on an oval.

If one stone is D IF and you are considering a J from Solomon brothers, I think I would recommend narrowing down your color range a bit. I would never buy a D IF when I could get a larger G VS1-VS2. I also wouldn't buy a J in an oval because color might be concentrated in some areas. I really need the links to the stones to see the diameter measurements and how the stones actually look. You'll get more comments if you do.
 
Sorry, I thought the sku numbers would be enough. The links are posted below.


http://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.21-carat-i-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-525464


http://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.23-carat-j-color-vs1-clarity-sku-324356

Again, the second link is the one with the bow tie in the ASET image. As you can see, I am not considering a D-IF stone. I am trying to maximize carat size without compromising color or clarity within my budget (around 6k for a loose diamond), and figured an I color stone was acceptable to me (but I'm open to criticizem on that). Both stones are similar in color, clariaty, and carat weight (at least to me, who is inexperienced). The salesperson at James Allen reported that their gemologist said the J colored stone faces up more like an I and that both are eye clean. She also said her favorite was 525464, as it sparkels from all angles and has a slight crushed ice feel, as can be seen in the imaging.

Thanks again!
 
ksto432|1439435482|3913955 said:
Telephone89,

Did you post something before this one? It seems I'm missing some information.
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I had, but I deleted it haha.

I entered in the sku for one of them, and it came up as a 1ct D IF??? Very weird. Anyways, between the 2 links you have - the J actually shows less colour IMO than the I. I don't love either. The random D IF that came up shows a white/grey bow tie which is what I prefer if there will be any bow tie at all. Do you like either of them? If it were me, I'd keep looking.

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I like the cut on the J better but I'm not liking the shoulders on the J (the outline of the stone).

I'm not too fond of the faceting pattern on the "I" but it does have a nice shape.

I dont know if I would pick either of them for the reasons above. If I did, it would probably be the "J".
 
I would keep looking.
 
Thank you all.

Are there any oval diamonds around my price range (6-6.5k) with simillare specs that any of you would recommend? I don't want to go below I color and VS2 clarity (or at lease eye clean).

I've been looking for one for what seems like forever and James Allen was the only supplier I found that would give me ASET images before actually making a purchase. They also have the specific type of ring I'm looking for, and my girlfriend is not a diamond expert by any means. She just wants something that sparkles and is a nice balance between quality and value. Any continued help will be greatly appreciated!
 
Looks like James Allen added another one in my price range. Here is the link.


http://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.21-carat-i-color-vs1-clarity-sku-583657

I am considering this or the 525464, pictured above. I really like how 525464 is cut, it seems to really sparkle. I've requested an ASET of the one in the link, 583657, but have to wait 3-5 business days, and during that time someone could buy 525464. Just looking at the links, which one would have the better light performance? I'm just worried the rotating pics on James Allen are blasted with light and don't want to get a diamond that looks dull in reality. Based on the ASET above for 525464, does it have great real world light performance and brilliance? If it does I might just pull the trigger on that one. I wouldn't want to loose that one while waiting on an image for the other.
 
I like the cut of the latest one you just linked to but am concerned the bowtie will be quite large.
 
Chrono|1439560810|3914459 said:
I like the cut of the latest one you just linked to but am concerned the bowtie will be quite large.
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If that's the case then would you see any objection to buying 525474? Or is the light performance on it no good? I'm not great at reading imaging so I'm asking.
 
telephone89|1439569905|3914513 said:
ksto432|1439567777|3914499 said:
I also just found this stone


http://www.jamesallen.com/mobile/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/1.21-carat-i-color-si1-clarity-sku-394094

And if this one is eye clean it looks like it has a minimal bow tie effect. What do you think?
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I like this one! Just check to make sure it's eye clean/you can live with the inclusions if its not.
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I talked with a rep through live chat about this stone and he claimed it is indeed eye clean! It is not a very dark inclusion, and I have to remember that these images are blown up very large. I'm sure the normal person cant detect that inclusion.

Thanks, I think I'll get this one!
 
ksto432|1439561221|3914460 said:
If that's the case then would you see any objection to buying 525474? Or is the light performance on it no good? I'm not great at reading imaging so I'm asking.
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You meant 525464, right? I like the new one posted a lot. Any chance of getting an ASET for it too? Ask JA's reps to compare your choices and explain why they would pick one over the other.
 
Chrono|1439571018|3914519 said:
ksto432|1439561221|3914460 said:
If that's the case then would you see any objection to buying 525474? Or is the light performance on it no good? I'm not great at reading imaging so I'm asking.
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You meant 525464, right? I like the new one posted a lot. Any chance of getting an ASET for it too? Ask JA's reps to compare your choices and explain why they would pick one over the other.
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Yes I did, mistyped, sorry. I could get an image, but I think I'll just go ahead and get this one now. It looks great, everyone on this board has liked it so far. It is 1K cheaper then 525464 and I like it better. If you think I should still get an image I can, but these seems to be the perfect stone for me.
 
Sometimes the ASET can catch things that I missed in the video, so I use the ASET as a backup to make sure it jives with what I see in the video.
 
Well turns out that specific stone 394094 isn't avialiable for imaging. They have to be in house and that one isn't. I will go ahead and purchase and request an ASET image and gemologist review when they set the stone to confirm it is eye clean. I'll review it and post it here, and if there is anything glaring, I can always return it for a full refund. Thanks for your help all.
 
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