Choose between Whiteflash selection

[Mjm8]

First time poster here, looking for a diamond. Narrowed the search down to Whiteflash. My girlfriend loves bling, so I know an upgrade will happen at least once. Their cut seems superior from what I've read as well.

The whole ring needs to come in under 7000. I have a setting my mom passed down and would like to use that. It's a simple Tiffany type 6 prong platinum, and while that isn't very "bling", I plan to go all out for the wedding band.

I'm looking at the following options. Have some concerns over diamond color, she prefers icy diamonds so I don't think H will cut it (maybe it will from Whiteflash, I don't really know). Have some concerns of the inclusions in these selections as well. Overall just looking for an expert or two to chime in on which angles are best in this bunch, which color should be my cutoff, and all of that.

Thank you all!

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3897565.htm G 0.91 SI1 eye clean

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3892616.htm F 0.94 SI1 eye clean

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2231267.htm F 0.92 VS2

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3934819.htm H 0.98 VS2

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3930753.htm G 1.0 VS2

 

[Todd Gray]

Hi MJM,

If your girlfriend prefers the icy-white look, then you're probably better off to stick with F-G color which most people find faces-up a crisp, bright white.

The higher degree of optical precision and cut quality certainly does affect our perception of diamond color by serving to distract our eyes from the body color of a diamond.

Icy-white tends to be more of a D-F color thing and G-color will get you there with the higher cut quality and thus I would consider that to be the middle ground.

You've done a great job of selecting diamonds that should deliver a high volume of light return and superior sparkle.

The only thing that distinguishes one from the other is the presence of green secondary brightness that is visible under the table facet of the 0.923 carat, F-color, VS-1 which is not present in the others.

There is also a little more play in the hearts pattern exhibited by that diamond, focus on the heart in the four o'clock position as compared to the others.

Beyond that, I'd say that you're on an even playing field and any one of them should be spectacular.

 

[Mjm8]

Hi MJM,

If your girlfriend prefers the icy-white look, then you're probably better off to stick with F-G color which most people find faces-up a crisp, bright white.

The higher degree of optical precision and cut quality certainly does affect our perception of diamond color by serving to distract our eyes from the body color of a diamond.

Icy-white tends to be more of a D-F color thing and G-color will get you there with the higher cut quality and thus I would consider that to be the middle ground.

You've done a great job of selecting diamonds that should deliver a high volume of light return and superior sparkle.

The only thing that distinguishes one from the other is the presence of green secondary brightness that is visible under the table facet of the 0.923 carat, F-color, VS-1 which is not present in the others.

There is also a little more play in the hearts pattern exhibited by that diamond, focus on the heart in the four o'clock position as compared to the others.

Beyond that, I'd say that you're on an even playing field and any one of them should be spectacular.

Thank you for your response! What does the secondary brightness mean? Is it less desirable? Also the hearts... again a less than perfect characteristic? I know the nuances matter, I just cannot discern them myself so I appreciate the help very much.

Is it possible Whiteflash may also get more diamonds in after the holidays? Do they typically restock frequently?

 

[Mjm8]

Any concern about the SI inclusions? I can see them on magnification pictures and videos but do they make a difference in the performance?

 

[tyty333]

You cant go wrong with a Whiteflash ACA...they are AGS000 (which means they have Ideal light return) as well as H&A. You can see
from all the images they provide that they are well performing stones. They do have the best trade up policy in the business (that
I've seen) plus they are just really nice people to boot!

I dont need high colors (I actually have a D pear and honestly, I feel it is too white:roll). I think G color is still very white (while not
paying extra for high color). Of course my choice would be the 1.01 G but that depends on your budget. Since the 1.01 G is only
$200 more than the H, I would eliminate the H.

My second choice would probably be the .935 F (even though I dont need an F) but if I was trying to save $ the .9 G/SI1 would be a deal.
Not sure what your priority is as far as budget. I see the 2 Fs are cheaper than some of the other Gs in about the same size.

 

[Mjm8]

You cant go wrong with a Whiteflash ACA...they are AGS000 (which means they have Ideal light return) as well as H&A. You can see
from all the images they provide that they are well performing stones. They do have the best trade up policy in the business (that
I've seen) plus they are just really nice people to boot!

I dont need high colors (I actually have a D pear and honestly, I feel it is too white:roll). I think G color is still very white (while not
paying extra for high color). Of course my choice would be the 1.01 G but that depends on your budget. Since the 1.01 G is only
$200 more than the H, I would eliminate the H.

My second choice would probably be the .935 F (even though I dont need an F) but if I was trying to save $ the .9 G/SI1 would be a deal.
Not sure what your priority is as far as budget. I see the 2 Fs are cheaper than some of the other Gs in about the same size.

Thank you! So I will stick with G or higher. Why would the Fs be cheaper, Is there possibly anything wrong with them?

 

[Dancing Fire]

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3930753.htm G 1.0 VS2

I'll take this one. Good crown height with a small table..

 

[valeria101]

Why would the Fs be cheaper, Is there possibly anything wrong with them?

The F / VS2 is not carying the WF Household brand (A Cut Above - ACA) - it is merely one of their 'Expert Selection' - likely due to a very minor miss-alignment of a single pavilion facet (that green splotch) ...

Is the F / SI1 discounted ? Not seeing anything to mention, then again, it does carry the 'A Cut Above' brand - I never find anything to mention about these - the diamonds seem very consistent & darn' precise !

Both a great, IHMO.


Not sure if having the ACA designation makes some difference in some other way - for the upgrade policy etc.

 

[Todd Gray]

Thank you for your response! What does the secondary brightness mean? Is it less desirable? Also the hearts... again a less than perfect characteristic? I know the nuances matter, I just cannot discern them myself so I appreciate the help very much.

Is it possible Whiteflash may also get more diamonds in after the holidays? Do they typically restock frequently?

The more consistent the pattern of hearts appears to be in terms of size, shape, and spacing, the higher the degree of optical precision, which in turn, produces better light performance and sparkle factor.

In a perfect world, you'd want all the hearts to look identical, but that is not realistic nor possible because these diamonds are hand-turned on the wheel.

The decision to buy SI-1 or VS-2 depends largely on your ability to see inclusions within a diamond that is going to face-up around the size of the eraser on a standard #2 yellow pencil, which is 6.5 millimeters in diameter.

I've always been able to find the inclusions within SI-1 clarity diamonds pretty easily with just my eyes and a little bit of scrutiny, especially if I know where and what to look for. At the same time, most people don't have the experience to know what they're looking for and thus they might have a more difficult time finding the inclusions.

I chose a 2.25 carat, I-color, SI-2 clarity, super ideal cut diamond for my wedding ring. I was able to find the inclusion, which was a feather located right over one of the pavilion main facets which create the arrows pattern, pretty easily with just my eyes.

But, I must have handed that ring to a couple thousand people throughout the years and nobody else ever seemed to be about to find it without a great deal of coaching. The inclusion was a white feather and I think that most people thought that it was a reflection of the pavilion main...

New diamonds come off the wheel every day, so there will always be new choices to consider, usually in 4-6 week cycles of production.

 

[rockysalamander]

#1. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3897565.htm G 0.91 SI1 eye clean {I would eliminate. I don't like the black inclusions even if technichnically eye-clean. Once seen, will not be easy to unsee}

#2. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3892616.htm F 0.94 SI1 eye clean {6.28 mm; 57% table, 34.6 crown}

#3. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2231267.htm F 0.92 VS1 {you had this listed as a VS2, but its a VS1. 6.24 mm, 56.5 table, 34.8 crown}

#4. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3934819.htm H 0.98 VS2 {eliminate for color as PP stated}

#5. https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3930753.htm G 1.0 VS2 {largest of the bunch at 6.41 mm; table 55.7, crown 34.3}

Of these, I would select #5 (largest, clean and bright G color) then #3 for better angles over #2.

Another option that is on par in quality and performance with a slightly better policy with lifetime buyback at 80% of cost. I slightly prefer HPD cut over WF, but as many PS member prefer WF.

#6. https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD7997 .93 SI1 G, 6.25 mm, 56.4 table, 34.4 crown.

If added to your list, I would choose #5, #6, #3 -- in order of prefrence according to your brief. If you like these, put them on hold ASAP! Diamonds move fast.

 

[valeria101]

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I'd want to see the crystal under the table of the HPD; the twinning whisps - I would like to see - it is a nice landscape ,-) .., but would not expect much to show up to below 10X.

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