Choice of 3 diamonds

[Postie]

Hi all,

Been looking around again and have come across 3 candidates:

Diamond 1
Table - 54
Depth - 62.3
Crown Angle - 34.5
Pavilion Angle - 40.8
Girdle - MED to Slightly Thick 3.5%
Culet - None
HCA Score - 1.4
GIA Cut - EX
Clarity - VS2
Colour - E
Carat - 0.75

Diamond 2
Table - 56
Depth - 62.8
Crown Angle - 36.5
Pavilion Angle - 39.8
Girdle - MED to Slightly Thick
Culet - None
HCA Score - 1.2
GIA Cut - VG
Clarity - SI2 (Eyeclean)
Colour - D
Carat - 0.81

Diamond 3
Table - 54
Depth - 62.4
Crown Angle - 35.5
Pavilion Angle - 40.8
Girdle - Thin to Med 3%
Culet - None
HCA Score - 2.7 (Right on the line for AGS 0 Candidate)
GIA Cut - EX
Clarity - SI2 (Eyeclean)
Colour - D
Carat - 0.76

Diamond 1 is 15% more expensive than the other 2.

Diamond 2 if off the HCA Map for AGS 0 Candidates and GIA Ex, but is graded GIA EX anyhow.

Your opinions welcomed

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/20/2010 10:10:56 AM
Author:Postie
Hi all,

Been looking around again and have come across 3 candidates:

Diamond 1
Table - 54
Depth - 62.3
Crown Angle - 34.5
Pavilion Angle - 40.8
Girdle - MED to Slightly Thick
Culet - None
HCA Score - 1.4
GIA Cut - EX
Clarity - VS2
Colour - E
Carat - 0.75

Diamond 2
Table - 56
Depth - 62.8
Crown Angle - 36.5
Pavilion Angle - 39.8
Girdle - MED to Slightly Thick
Culet - None
HCA Score - 1.2
GIA Cut - VG
Clarity - SI2 (Eyeclean)
Colour - D
Carat - 0.81

Diamond 3
Table - 54
Depth - 62.4
Crown Angle - 35.5
Pavilion Angle - 40.8
Girdle - Thin to Med
Culet - None
HCA Score - 2.7 (Right on the line for AGS 0 Candidate)
GIA Cut - EX
Clarity - SI2 (Eyeclean)
Colour - D
Carat - 0.76

Diamond 1 is 15% more expensive than the other 2.

Diamond 2 if off the HCA Map for AGS 0 Candidates and GIA Ex, but is graded GIA EX anyhow.

Your opinions welcomed

Hi Postie, good to see you!

Diamond 1 looks the best from the basic info followed by 2, I would avoid the third as it isn''t well cut. Which seller has these? Is it Blue Nile?

 

[Postie]

Hiya L

It''s been a while!

Yes, Blue nile, all held.

I was thinking the same about Diamond 1, but 3 is intriguing in that it''s right on the AGS 0 candidate line (also bigger and 15% cheaper).

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/20/2010 10:33:04 AM
Author: Postie
Hiya L

It's been a while!

Yes, Blue nile, all held.

I was thinking the same about Diamond 1, but 3 is intriguing in that it's right on the AGS 0 candidate line (also bigger and 15% cheaper).

I am glad to see you, yes it has been a while!!

If it were me, I would lean towards the first due to the angle combo being a bit ' safer' than the last, especially as we won't be able to get Idealscope images. But you could order and see what you think, I seem to remember you did that before?

 

[Postie]

Yeah, last time the sent me a set "eyeclean" that had a feather right on the edge of the table that couldn''t be pronged due to them not wanting to chip it. We concluded that if it wasn''t strong enough to prong, it wasn''t strong enough period. GIA EX/EX/EX SI1 btw.

BN are usually very helpful, just got a very unhelpful one one the line thought when I asked about diamond 1 to be checked from side profile: "It''s very likely that even in a VS2 there would be inclusions visible from the side. If you''re concerned about this, I would recommend a diamond of at least VVS1 clarity."

 

[Postie]

I did buy one of these from BN which was very nice though: http://www.bluenile.co.uk/diamond-bracelet-white-gold_7389

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/20/2010 10:39:51 AM
Author: Postie
Yeah, last time the sent me a set ''eyeclean'' that had a feather right on the edge of the table that couldn''t be pronged due to them not wanting to chip it. We concluded that if it wasn''t strong enough to prong, it wasn''t strong enough period. GIA EX/EX/EX SI1 btw.

BN are usually very helpful, just got a very unhelpful one one the line thought when I asked about diamond 1 to be checked from side profile: ''It''s very likely that even in a VS2 there would be inclusions visible from the side. If you''re concerned about this, I would recommend a diamond of at least VVS1 clarity.''

Thats '' cover the wagons'' advice there, yes the rep has a point but there are VS2 out there that are completely eyeclean. You have put a lot into finding the right diamond Postie and you WILL!! I admire the work and time you have put into this!

 

[Postie]

Cheers L. The one that I had to return was otherwise stunning.

Can''t see why it would be an unreasonable request to ask if it is eyeclean from side profile (diamond 1)?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/20/2010 10:48:31 AM
Author: Postie
Cheers L. The one that I had to return was otherwise stunning.

Can''t see why it would be an unreasonable request to ask if it is eyeclean from side profile (diamond 1)?

It is NOT an unreasonable request at all, in fact it is a question that knowledgeable and informed consumers should ask. Stick to your guns!!!

 

[Postie]

I will wait until Brittany is working on Monday as she seems very helpful, Davidj on the other hand isn''t

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/20/2010 10:56:59 AM
Author: Postie
I will wait until Brittany is working on Monday as she seems very helpful, Davidj on the other hand isn't

That sounds like a plan, it often happens that you connect with one person more than another so it might be best to wait for her.

 

[Dreamer_D]

I too like the first diamond. I think that since you have already had issues with one SI2 diamond and eye cleanliness (from this vendor?) then it is safer to go up in clarity. E color will be indistinguishable form D. It is worth the extra money not to have to send another stone back, to me when I think about it. But of course, it is your money

 

[Bella_mezzo]

i like the first as well

 

[Postie]

Have ordered Diamond 1

Thanks all, especially L, help very much appreciated.

Will update with pics with it arrives next week.

 

[Postie]

I was told that it didn''t need an inspection and would be eyeclean from all angles, top, bottom and side, being a VS2.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/22/2010 2:04:47 PM
Author: Postie
Have ordered Diamond 1

Thanks all, especially L, help very much appreciated.

Will update with pics with it arrives next week.

Its my pleasure Postie, you are most welcome!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/22/2010 2:05:38 PM
Author: Postie
I was told that it didn''t need an inspection and would be eyeclean from all angles, top, bottom and side, being a VS2.

I wouldn''t rely on that, ask them to make sure for you.

 

[Postie]

Oh well, can always send it back. I did ask and this was the reply:

"There isnt a need for it, VS2 is the grade where the inclusions become completely invisible to the naked eye, even when turned on all sides "

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 3/22/2010 4:15:03 PM
Author: Postie
Oh well, can always send it back. I did ask and this was the reply:

''There isnt a need for it, VS2 is the grade where the inclusions become completely invisible to the naked eye, even when turned on all sides ''

Thats not the best advice you were given in my opinion as there can be exceptions. Individual eyesights can vary as well as other factors and I have seen cases here where VS2 has not been eyeclean to the buyer.

But lets hope your diamond IS completely eyeclean!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 3/22/2010 4:21:48 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 3/22/2010 4:15:03 PM
Author: Postie
Oh well, can always send it back. I did ask and this was the reply:

''There isnt a need for it, VS2 is the grade where the inclusions become completely invisible to the naked eye, even when turned on all sides ''

Thats not the best advice you were given in my opinion as there can be exceptions. Individual eyesights can vary as well as other factors and I have seen cases here where VS2 has not been eyeclean to the buyer.

But lets hope your diamond IS completely eyeclean!

I agree, we have had cases on VS2 that were not eye clean around these parts.