Can''t tell from pics how this would look IRL

[mani5ha]

Hi guys,

I quite like this setting from WF but I don''t know what this type of stone setting is called around the halo (i.e. bead set, pave? micropave?) or what it would look like in real life. WF have sent me one hand pic but its very small and far away. Has anyone got any idea what this is and what it would look like.. i.e. hand pics of a similar style of how the smaller melee is set???

Hope this makes sense...

Manisha

 

[jet2ks]

Which setting is that?

My best suggestion is to use the settting style name in the search function and limit it to the Show Me The Ring subforum to see what other pics are out there on PS.

 

[mani5ha]

its a custom setting that i spotted somewhere else,i saw some other pics and it looked like there was a lot of metal as opposed to the micropave style that i''m looking for.. so i''m not sure what this is called!!?

 

[Laila619]

It looks bead set to me, but hard to tell. If you want less metal showing, I'd ask for mushroom pave or v cut pave. Shared prong also has less metal.

 

[Laila619]

Check out dboy10's halo...it has cut outs around the melee so less metal shows around the center stone and on the shank.

 

[mani5ha]

Date: 1/25/2010 10:00:37 AM
Author: Laila619
It looks bead set to me, but hard to tell. If you want less metal showing, I''d ask for mushroom pave or v cut pave. Shared prong also has less metal.

Lol - i''ve emailed WF and told them i want it to look like "Leon Mege" style. I''ll see what they say. I assume the quote would go up for this.

Do WF do mushroom cut pave though? and if so woul they set it by hand?! Me and BF have decided we''re definetly going with WF because their prices are great, so now just need to figure out how to get the setting i really want.

I basically want the guinevere setting, but i dont want a bead-set halo i want a mushoom pave one. I will await WF''s response...

 

[JeBri31508]

If they give you pics and/or if you find pics of what you''re looking for could you let me know? I am wanting something very similar to the guinevere setting as well, but am wanting to do a custom 3 stone project to resemble the Tacori 2623..but I like a bigger halo than the tacori. I, like you, do not want a ton of metal around the halo, so let me know what you find out!

 

[septembergirl]

WOW that is a gorgeous setting! It''s making me rethink my Ritani setting.....

 

[mani5ha]

here are all the pics they sent me of the ring i want it with a plain band though and i''ll be asking that theres as less metal showing as is possible...

here goes:

 

[mani5ha]

lots of metal showing??? am i just being picky? lol

 

[mani5ha]

side views...

 

[mani5ha]

frontal!!

 

[mani5ha]

more viewss...

 

[mani5ha]

hand pic.. which is handy but it''s tiny so its very hard to tell!!!

 

[Bella_mezzo]

I think it''d be gorgeous!!!

 

[Allison D.]

Mani5ha, one of the most important things to keep in mind when you consider pave is durability.

The less metal that holds stones in place, the more easily the metal can be dislodged, leading to potential loss of stones.

Very delicate pave settings are more high maintenance than more durable settings; it''s like owning a fine cashmere sweater. You can''t just throw it in the regular wash cycle with regular detergent and other clothes; you have to handwash it in delicate soap and lay it flat to dry.

Similarly, pave ring styles with very little metal are considerably more fragile. Their prongs can wear more quickly or be pushed off stones more easily than settings with stronger metal presence. It''s important to know this going in. If having that look is worth the extra maintenance effort and cost, no worries, but if you think it will be upsetting or cumbersome to bear these extra efforts, you may want to consider beefing up the metal a bit.

 

[Dreamer_D]

In real life I don''t think you would see much metal on that setting. Remember that is magnified like 40x!

 

[CharmyPoo]

While I am sure WF does great work, if you want Leon Mege style then get a Leon Mege setting. I still regret not going to him first and thinking I can get his quality else where. I honestly believe no one can do pave like him. Ask appraisers who have seen rings from all the top custom jewelers.

There is a difference between hand made rings versus casted rings.

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 1/25/2010 7:21:37 PM
Author: CharmyPoo
While I am sure WF does great work, if you want Leon Mege style then get a Leon Mege setting. I still regret not going to him first and thinking I can get his quality else where. I honestly believe no one can do pave like him. Ask appraisers who have seen rings from all the top custom jewelers.


There is a difference between hand made rings versus casted rings.

ditto!

 

[Laila619]

Date: 1/25/2010 7:21:37 PM
Author: CharmyPoo
While I am sure WF does great work, if you want Leon Mege style then get a Leon Mege setting. I still regret not going to him first and thinking I can get his quality else where. I honestly believe no one can do pave like him. Ask appraisers who have seen rings from all the top custom jewelers.

There is a difference between hand made rings versus casted rings.

Also agree.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 1/25/2010 7:21:37 PM
Author: CharmyPoo
While I am sure WF does great work, if you want Leon Mege style then get a Leon Mege setting. I still regret not going to him first and thinking I can get his quality else where. I honestly believe no one can do pave like him. Ask appraisers who have seen rings from all the top custom jewelers.

There is a difference between hand made rings versus casted rings.

Yes, sometimes you just need to shell out the money for the top tier.

If you want something and cannot afford it, then I recommend saving the pennies rather than trying to find a copy. It will save you money and heartache in the long run. Just ask D&T

 

[mani5ha]

Date: 1/26/2010 1:41:53 AM
Author: dreamer_dachsie

Date: 1/25/2010 7:21:37 PM

Author: CharmyPoo

While I am sure WF does great work, if you want Leon Mege style then get a Leon Mege setting. I still regret not going to him first and thinking I can get his quality else where. I honestly believe no one can do pave like him. Ask appraisers who have seen rings from all the top custom jewelers.


There is a difference between hand made rings versus casted rings.

Yes, sometimes you just need to shell out the money for the top tier.


If you want something and cannot afford it, then I recommend saving the pennies rather than trying to find a copy. It will save you money and heartache in the long run. Just ask D&T

Thanks for the advice. I asked for a quote from Leon, he suoted me nearly double!!

my bf said he''s too expensive.

i think i''d rather have more metal then, i dont want stones falling out, particularly as i''m in UK!!!!

 

[mani5ha]

Date: 1/25/2010 7:21:34 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie
In real life I don''t think you would see much metal on that setting. Remember that is magnified like 40x!

Oh yeh, hehe.

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 1/25/2010 6:04:42 PM
Author: mani5ha
here are all the pics they sent me of the ring i want it with a plain band though and i'll be asking that theres as less metal showing as is possible...

here goes:

Regarding the comments about durability and maintenance requiring larger prongs, while in general this is theoretically correct in practice the maintenance and durability is no different between a Leon or Ocean piece and the much bulkier WF pieces. I have heard that comment too many times from Jewelers who simply cannot produce the smaller prongs nor are their setters skilled enough to set the diamonds so close together. There are duarbility issues with thinner bands(ie. bands <2.5mm etc) and poorly set stones or claw prongs that stick out but otherwise with a skilled settor even much smaller prongs are just as durable. If you want confirmation of this ask Leon or Ocean how often their customers have to replace melee stones, it is quite rare. A skilled setter and well formed pave work is an art and the most durable pieces are still done by hand by the finest of settors, but you have to pay extra for their work as it often takes twice as long as a cad/cam designer to create the piece.

Iin real life you will not notice the size of the prongs as much, however those magnified pictures from WF show a clear metal edge on the outside of the halo and when you shine light on that edge it will reflect light in a different way than diamonds do. This is very noticeable and bulky looking. See the attached picture for another example of that edge.

I would get a quote from Ocean if you want more delicate pave work. She is cheaper than Leon especially if you want the ring done in 18K White Gold but you are still looking at at least $500 - 1500 more for the ring design you are considering than a CAD/CAM designer like WF would charge.

Good-Luck,

CCL

 

[mani5ha]

Date: 1/26/2010 4:38:09 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover

Date: 1/25/2010 6:04:42 PM
Author: mani5ha
here are all the pics they sent me of the ring i want it with a plain band though and i''ll be asking that theres as less metal showing as is possible...

here goes:

Regarding the comments about durability and maintenance requiring larger prongs, while in general this is theoretically correct in practice the maintenance and durability is no different between a Leon or Ocean piece and the much bulkier WF pieces. I have heard that comment too many times from Jewelers who simply cannot produce the smaller prongs nor are their setters skilled enough to set the diamonds so close together. There are duarbility issues with thinner bands(ie. bands <2.5mm etc) and poorly set stones or claw prongs that stick out but otherwise with a skilled settor even much smaller prongs are just as durable. If you want confirmation of this ask Leon or Ocean how often their customers have to replace melee stones, it is quite rare. A skilled setter and well formed pave work is an art and the most durable pieces are still done by hand by the finest of settors, but you have to pay extra for their work as it often takes twice as long as a cad/cam designer to create the piece.

Iin real life you will not notice the size of the prongs as much, however those magnified pictures from WF show a clear metal edge on the outside of the halo and when you shine light on that edge it will reflect light in a different way than diamonds do. This is very noticeable and bulky looking. See the attached picture for another example of that edge.

I would get a quote from Ocean if you want more delicate pave work. She is cheaper than Leon especially if you want the ring done in 18K White Gold but you are still looking at at least $500 - 1500 more for the ring design you are considering than a CAD/CAM designer like WF would charge.

Good-Luck,

CCL

Thankyou CCL, this is really helpful. And Allison, thanks for the warning. I am thinking I just need to let WF do what they have to do to make sure the ring is structurally safe as i def do not want stones to come out, in our culture if a diamond comes out its "bad luck" to wear the ring and i''ll end up ringless for a while!!!!

The setting on the left with a more obvious border / metal work seems fine to me. Can someone else comment on whether in their opinion, this is how my ring willl turn out? Maybe i should send these pics to WF?

 

[mani5ha]

Date: 1/25/2010 7:21:37 PM
Author: CharmyPoo
While I am sure WF does great work, if you want Leon Mege style then get a Leon Mege setting. I still regret not going to him first and thinking I can get his quality else where. I honestly believe no one can do pave like him. Ask appraisers who have seen rings from all the top custom jewelers.

There is a difference between hand made rings versus casted rings.

CharmyPoo - who did you end up going with then? I really wish I could go with Leon but he''s too pricey and i''d rather spend more on the diamond... also i''m pretty sure i''d want to make too many changes to

I know there is a difference between hand-made and casted rings, i was just wondering what this would look like, as i''m finding it hard to visualise the pictures!

A lot of people have suggested some people to go with for handmade rings but i''m not sure how comfortable I am with letting someone design ring without any pictures / cads of what it will look like..........???

 

[CharmyPoo]

Date: 1/26/2010 9:53:13 AM
Author: mani5ha

CharmyPoo - who did you end up going with then? I really wish I could go with Leon but he''s too pricey and i''d rather spend more on the diamond... also i''m pretty sure i''d want to make too many changes to

I know there is a difference between hand-made and casted rings, i was just wondering what this would look like, as i''m finding it hard to visualise the pictures!

A lot of people have suggested some people to go with for handmade rings but i''m not sure how comfortable I am with letting someone design ring without any pictures / cads of what it will look like..........???

I used Maytal Hannah who has a great rep here. She does good work and good pave - don''t get me wrong - I didn''t mean to imply she doesn''t. But Leon Mege is in a league of his own. I am having my new e-ring made by him.