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Can I get some input on this princess ASET image please :)

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db3737

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I would appreciate some input on this princess cut, my main concern is the light leakage in the ASET. Im not too concerned with the medium blue Fluorescence since thats actually a trait we are looking for. if it appears to be milky/hazy when it comes in I can always return it. Im looking for around a 1 carat IF-VS, D-G princess with a budget around 5000 so this one looked pretty good to me. and the fluoro is a trait im looking for thats a little harder to come by, not to mention this stone has pretty perfect proportions It just seems to me that the ASET is lacking. Do you think that this is about as good as im going to get for my price range?

Carat weight: 1.00
Cut: Very Good
Color: G
Clarity: VVS2
Price: 4,867.08 (4721 bank wire)
Lab: GIA
Depth: 72.80
Table: 68.00
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Girdle: thick to slightly thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence : Medium Blue
L/W ratio: 1.00
Dimension: 5.47 x 5.47 x 3.98

Thanks!

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Re: Can I get some input on this princess ASET image please

I'm not an expert, but I'm sure that others will chime in. I think the stone looks to have a lot of leakage too. I think that you can find better. I'd recommend looking in the G range VS, it will give you the best value for your budget and may even allow you to go up in ct weight if that's important to you.
 
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Thank you Christina you have been very helpful to me. I agree on the color we decided we can even go down to an H color or possibly lower if it has fluorescense since it could help out with face up color. After looking at some diamonds i decided vs clarity is my limit but the hard part for me has been trying to find a stone with fluorescense with good proportions (lower table to depth ratio, decent length to width ratio, very good+ symmetry/polish, Thin to slightly thick girdle ect) i may just have to give up on finding a diamond with faint-medium blue fluorescense.... Its not really something that we really need in the characteristics but something we want :). If i were to cut the "want" of faint-medium fluorescense out of the filter there are a number of stones from james allen i could start working on narrowing down to 3 thrn request aset images, but im trying not to give up on finding the exact stone i want just yet!
 
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Hi there! I wouldn't say no, but I wouldn't say yes either - yet. I think is has pretty good potential, but the ASET is captured in a way which is hard to compare. Typically an ASET is photographed against a black opaque background, not a clear one like an IdealScope. This would make leakage look black or very dark green, where as your ASET shows a fair amount of white. So all that said, I think it could be a very nice diamond. If the vendor has a good return policy and the price right then you can't go wrong. Whiteflash and Good Old Gold have lots of ASET images for you to browse through for comparison. Also, check out this article. It explains the value of seeing both an ASET and IdealScope image. Good Luck!

https://www.pricescope.com/journal/aset-–-diamond-evaluation-tool
 
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If you have a little time on your hands then I wouldn't stop looking yet. I'm happy to hear that you'd be willing to go to an H, I think that will open up some more options for you as well. I'll take a look and see if I can find something. Based on this stone, I'm assuming that you budget is around $5k?
 
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wow your right, there isn't much out there with fluor.! I did find this one on JA when I extended your parameters, it has faint fluor. but it's an I VVS2, the table is a bit larger than I prefer, but it might be worth an ASET. JA does seem to have some very nice cuts within your parameters but like you said....no flourescence. :((

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VVS2-Excellent-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1498527.asp

no images but faint fluorescence.
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1506854.asp

whiteflash had a couple in their virtual inventory as well, so if you haven't looked there, you may want to expand your parameters just a bit and see what comes up. I'll keep looking and post if I see something interesting, hopefully someone else will have spotted something too.
 
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I love fluorescence too and am disappointed at the lack of fluorescent diamonds among ideal-cut princesses. I do know that Crafted by Infinity cuts a lot of fluorescent stones, so you could check with Wink Jones, Nice Ice, or DimendScaasi, which are Infinity vendors. Those are some of the most beautiful princesses around, but unfortunately they come with a price premium. GOG may carry some signature princesses with fluor. Unfortunately, Whiteflash's ACA parameters don't allow for fluor, and I don't think the BGD blue line includes princesses, but I could be wrong.

As for the one you picked out, I actually think the ASET is pretty darn good, and it will be a nice sparkly stone with a perfect square ratio at a fantastic price. I think the pic is taken in an odd way, and it might be easier to compare if it were taken against a black background instead of white. I'm not sure if the vendor can give you more pics or not. It actually looks like one of the computer-generated ASETs that comes on the AGS document because it's a bit pixelated. The one from BN looks great based on the computer ASET as well.
 
 
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Thanks for the recommendations! I also noticed those 2 at james allen with faint fluoro. After looking through the GOG website and talking to sarah on prices I found 3 that I REALLY like! 2 of them are solasfera a little under a carat but i think i can deal with the slightly smaller size :bigsmile:


here is the number 1 pick :love: it even has faint fluoro! the only thing i dont like as much is the K color
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9233/

close second place (also a solasfera but a little higher in price and no fluoro)
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9416/

and in 3rd place :)
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9489/

I may end up asking GOG to compare these 3 side by side for me and pick my favorite among the 3 :bigsmile:
 
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thank you all for your help!

jstarfireb: thats what it seemed like to me aswell, Im not shure I could get better pictures since the vendor doesent have it in house, After looking at some of the solasferas on GOG Im starting to really like them more than my first pick though

Christina: I like those recommendations as well, I will have to check with "ERD" to see if I can get some pictures and ASET images

EB: that is a really nice pick aswell, the ASET looks very good! I would have never seen that stone since I had been filtering out Very good and up cuts and that one is listed on blue nile as "good" .... really shows a good example of how some stones can be misrepresented as lower quality just due to certain grades given

hopefully by the end of the week I could pick something out, That .94 K color VVS solasfera really has my eye especially with the price and the fact that it has faint fluorescense. from doing some searching it seems like the bigger stones display the K color more while the smaller 1 carat and under stones dont show their color as good, especially something like that solasfera which is going to be very flashy and the faint fluoresence may help hide the color aswell
 
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I have been looking at these videos that GOG have up comparing color and cuts to give me a good idea on what to expect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYb0egO4jFg&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx5CT8Cs2vs

and this thread on K colored stones

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-k-colored-diamonds.112476/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-k-colored-diamonds.112476/[/URL]
 
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db3737|1342585996|3235912 said:
hopefully by the end of the week I could pick something out, That .94 K color VVS solasfera really has my eye especially with the price and the fact that it has faint fluorescense. from doing some searching it seems like the bigger stones display the K color more while the smaller 1 carat and under stones dont show their color as good, especially something like that solasfera which is going to be very flashy and the faint fluoresence may help hide the color aswell
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From what I've read, faint fluorescence doesn't have much of an impact in normal lighting conditions, if any at all, so if you're looking to 'hide color,' maybe the 'I' Solasfera would be a better choice? Or something with strong blue fluor.
 
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E B|1342609714|3235986 said:
db3737|1342585996|3235912 said:
hopefully by the end of the week I could pick something out, That .94 K color VVS solasfera really has my eye especially with the price and the fact that it has faint fluorescense. from doing some searching it seems like the bigger stones display the K color more while the smaller 1 carat and under stones dont show their color as good, especially something like that solasfera which is going to be very flashy and the faint fluoresence may help hide the color aswell
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From what I've read, faint fluorescence doesn't have much of an impact in normal lighting conditions, if any at all, so if you're looking to 'hide color,' maybe the 'I' Solasfera would be a better choice? Or something with strong blue fluor.
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I think your right since Im very color sensitive I may be better with the I or higher, im thinking to ask GOG if they can take some comparison pictures of the 3 side by side
 
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db3737|1342614744|3236009 said:
E B|1342609714|3235986 said:
db3737|1342585996|3235912 said:
hopefully by the end of the week I could pick something out, That .94 K color VVS solasfera really has my eye especially with the price and the fact that it has faint fluorescense. from doing some searching it seems like the bigger stones display the K color more while the smaller 1 carat and under stones dont show their color as good, especially something like that solasfera which is going to be very flashy and the faint fluoresence may help hide the color aswell
Click to expand...

From what I've read, faint fluorescence doesn't have much of an impact in normal lighting conditions, if any at all, so if you're looking to 'hide color,' maybe the 'I' Solasfera would be a better choice? Or something with strong blue fluor.
Click to expand...


I think your right since Im very color sensitive I may be better with the I or higher, im thinking to ask GOG if they can take some comparison pictures of the 3 side by side
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Princess cuts will hold more body color in the corners of the stone, so if your color sensitive you may not like that. I think most people start to begin to see color at H or I. I had an I colored asscher and it faced up very white but I could see a bit of body color through the pavilion of the stone, it didn't bother me at all, but it was there. I agree that the faint fluor. isn't going to have a significant impact on the K color stone. I haven't seen a solasfera in person but I imagine the amazing cutting will help mask some of the body color. I'd ask for a side by side comparison of the K and the I.
 
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Ok guys it seems as though I have narrowed it down to 2 stones :appl:

the first is my original top pick .84 carat solasfera G VS1 with medium blue Fluorescence and the second is a .91 princess of hearts J VS2 with strong blue Fluorescence :naughty: I was getting ready to cave in and get the above solasfera till I started searching around the GOG site and when i found that princess of hearts I REALLY liked it... they are both beautiful stones and my fiancee likes them both but at the moment im leaning more towards the solasfera and I think that it may just be the one. however, as much as I like the solasfera something keeps bringing me back to that princess of hearts! its just so pretty! I just dont know what kind of setting I would get for it if I did go that route

anyways If you all could help me out I would greatly appreciate it! what do you think would be a good setting for the solasfera? we were originally thinking a 2.5mm princess cut channel setting but now im thinking maybe solitaire to showcase the stone??? I dont want to go above 2.5mm(closer to 2mm would be better) as I want the main stone to be the center of attention what do you think? I was also thinking maybe a channel setting with round diamonds for the solasfera instead of princess cuts might look good since the solasfera has more of a round table but im not too shure, since in the end the stone is still square. my fiancee has left all of this to me now as she says I am on the right track and that she does not wanna know anything else about the ring or diamond till i give it to her :cheeky: im really getting very anxious lately with all this research and searching :errrr:

I appreciate all the help you all have been giving me below is the 2 final picks and the channel setting for the solasfera

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Well, you can't go wrong with either (knowing your girlfriend likes them both!). I think they'd both look great in a solitaire.

What is your setting budget?
 
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trying to stay under 1000 but the lower the better... the good thing is the plain solitaires tend to be very reasonably prices the above setting from b2c jewels is 640 and is 2.5mm thick....below are some from james allen I am considering as well do you think 2mm would look better than a 2.5mm? my fiancee has a petite hand/fingers, obviously the smaller mm will showcase the stone better but wouldn't want to go too small/skinny

this is available in 2mm and 2.5mm
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/14k-White-Gold-2-5mm-Knife-Edge-Solitaire-11002w14.html

this halo is very nice as well! even though I prefer solitaires/channel sets more
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-pave-halo-diamond-engagement-ring-17303w14.html

and a pave set
http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-thin-french-cut-pave-set-diamond-engagement-ring-17158w14.html

from whiteflash 4-prong tiffany style
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/4-prong-tiffany-style-solitaire-engagement-ring-for-princess-8.htm
 
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GOG can get you most of those settings too (or very similar), and it'd be easier through them since you're buying the diamond there too. What other kind of jewelry does your girlfriend wear?
 
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I would choose the G Solasfera since you mentioned you're color-sensitive. I'm not very color-sensitive and am just starting to be bothered by the color in my I princess. I would not recommend going past I if you're color-sensitive.
 
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yes that is what im thinking aswell, thank you! i think the solasfera might be the one I go with too, sarah at GOG offered to get them both side by side in a comparison for me but Im not shure if Im going to need it since this video gives me a very good idea of a comparison between the 2. at the end of the video they compare the colors and I can see the difference very clearly in F and J which im guessing would be very similar to what the comparison would look like between the G and J

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBqy47eJjuI

I just found a setting that i absolutelly fell in love with :love:

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/legato-sleek-line-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-422.htm

it just seems so perferct to me... A solitaire is a little bland for my taste but the other settings with diamonds I have looked at seemed like they took away from showcasing the center stone while this one has small diamonds just enough to give it some extra bling and I like how it tapers from top to bottom to give the center diamond more room to really shine :love:
 
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