Can anyone in Long Island have a look at some stones for me?

[kkaramacoska]

Hi there fellow PS!
This is a HUGE ask and I know it may not is possible.
I am in Australia (remote north west) and I have been dealing with since1910.com for my engagement ring.
They have been great!, really wonderful infact!
As you know, its very hard to pick a diamond without seeing it with your own eyes. Even though I do trust my consultant at this store I was wondering if there might be any chance anybody who lives near the area could possibly go there and have a look at the 4 stones we have narrowed it down to???
This is a big ask I realise, I know I may no get a response but I just thought Id try.
They do not have aset reports or idealscope images. Im sure I could get them if I needed to but that takes time and money im guessing and Im in a little bit of a rush.
I trust pricesope so much im willing to trust someone elses eyes! I am getting photos of the stones tomorrow so that will help.
Can anyone who has a little knowledge help me???? I just want something that looks completley eye clean from any angle and I really hate cloudyness!!!
One of the stones in particular which I want checked out is an Asscher, and I know with these you need to be careful (this is the one im really hoping to get incidently)
If i cant get help I will be basing my purchase purley on the images, the GIA report and the word of my Jewellery consultant at since1910.com
Oh i can just see all you experts out there screaming at me! "dont even think about getting a diamond without an idealscope image!"
If and when we narrow it down to 2 stones I more than likley will pursue the idealscope at the very least.
How do I get one? Im assuming the diamond has to leave the store for this? Are there people that can go to the store and do this? for a fee?
Help please! Im hoping to have the ring on my finger by March 5th!
The store is in garden city long island NY,159 Franklin St I think but I can confirm that if anyone responds.
Heres hoping!!!

 

[Bella_mezzo]

Can you just get the setting from since 1910 and get the stone from Good Old Gold? They have amazing asschers and tons of info on each stone. They''ll even shoot a side by side comparison video of diamonds that you are interested in...

 

[Dreamer_D]

I know that you feel like you have a relationship with your SA at since1910, but to be completely honest, if you are buying over the internet sight unseen you *need* to work with a vendor who can provide pictures, IS and/or ASET images, sarins, and even movies if possible. I think you should consider whether or not you want to work with one of the PS vendors who provides these things like GOG, WF, or JA.

 

[yssie]

Ditto dreamer - you either trust your SA and the establishment enough to buy sight/info unseen, or you don't - and you need to work with someone else who can cater to your need for more info and multiple knowledgeable opinions.



A bus of PSers going to look at stones in the store wouldn't tell you anything, because they'd all see things different ways, they'd all have different preferences, and since none of them would ultimately have any more impartial, unbiased info than you do now, it wouldn't help you at all!

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 1/18/2010 9:11:10 PM
Author: yssie
Ditto dreamer - you either trust your SA and the establishment enough to buy sight/info unseen, or you don''t - and you need to work with someone else who can cater to your need for more info and multiple knowledgeable opinions.



A bus of PSers going to look at stones in the store wouldn''t tell you anything, because they''d all see things different ways, they''d all have different preferences, and since none of them would ultimately have any more impartial, unbiased info than you do now, it wouldn''t help you at all!

Ditto. But will say if you work with www.goodoldgold.com they will do a video for you. I can''t say enough about them, have bought 2 stones from them. I am beyond thrilled with the stones and their level of customer service.

HTH, and good luck.

 

[Deelight]

Date: 1/18/2010 9:27:11 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/18/2010 9:11:10 PM

Author: yssie

Ditto dreamer - you either trust your SA and the establishment enough to buy sight/info unseen, or you don''t - and you need to work with someone else who can cater to your need for more info and multiple knowledgeable opinions.




A bus of PSers going to look at stones in the store wouldn''t tell you anything, because they''d all see things different ways, they''d all have different preferences, and since none of them would ultimately have any more impartial, unbiased info than you do now, it wouldn''t help you at all!

Ditto. But will say if you work with www.goodoldgold.com they will do a video for you. I can''t say enough about them, have bought 2 stones from them. I am beyond thrilled with the stones and their level of customer service.


HTH, and good luck.

Ditto as another Aussie I did this the video''s really help put your mind at ease, the other thing what you may like others may not and vice versa

GL

 

[Collee]

I am from LI and If you opt to purchase from GOG, I would be more than happy to take an impartial gander at the stone(s). Since I have a past and present working relationship with Jon, I would feel more at ease viewing the stones with him. Or as others have mentioned, ask him to shoot and post a vid.

I have heard great things about HL Gross/Since 1910 and would trust their opinions but since I do not have an established rapport or relationship with them, I would feel a bit uncomfortable with the viewing request . I hope you understand.

 

[kkaramacoska]

hello people!
ok! ok! hahaha! i get it! i need the aset.

its just that their stones seem to be so much cheaper than everyone else. I will have to email Christine and see what she says.
I feel bad since she has worked so hard for me (i am a very painful client!) but yes, if i cant get the pictures and aset report, i will look at GOG. And get the setting only from them.
I just feel that I should be loyal to her. AH! hopefully she can get me the stuff I need.
Thankyou for all of your suggestions! I really appriciate it and definatley no offense taken from anyone!, I knew it was a gamble anyway not seeing the stones.
well, Im emailing right now............

 

[pancake]

kkaramacoska, I am going through the same thing at the moment - another Aussie buying remotely I am also feeling a bit funny about "shafting" vendors who have been very helpful, but I think it is inevitable; different vendors have access to different stones and different technologies, and it''s all a lucrative business so I am sure they are used to being turned down even after doing a fantastic job.

(that said, my stomach is still churning at the idea of having to turn such helpful people down - obviously I''m a business pushover, lucky my line of work is COMPLETELY different!)

 

[kkaramacoska]

Im staring to become a little annoyed

. I havent had a reply from my consultant reguarding images and detailed proportions of the stones and Im getting impatiant..........
So what happens if I buy my setting form since1910.c0m and my stone from GOG? where will I get it set? If i get the setting sent to me in Australia I would then have to send it back to US to get it set (and that will take forever!), Is there an easier way? Will GOG set my stone if the setting is from another store? and if so , what do I do about an address for when I order the setting?
I feel lost and quite depressed. what started out as something wonderful and exciting is now just making me sad and confused.
Do I really need an ideal cut? every stone i have seen looks beautiful to me! Ive been checking out all my friends and clients rocks and i really cant see any difference in any of them.............. and some of them are quite cheap and im sure the cut standard is not great. Im just loosing my patience at this point. I want my ring!

I think Ive upset my consultant buy being so picky and annoying and thats why shes not returning my emails

I have some info on 1 stone if anyone cares to comment. I already know its not an ideal cut, the table is bordering too big so it will have slightly less fire but reflect more light, its a round briiliant, 0.70 carat, G colour, VS2 GIA certified #6117492763
depth 62%
table 59%
crown angle 36 degrees
crown height 15%
pavillion angle 41 degrees
pavillion depth 43.5%
star length 50%
girdle med to slightly thick, fasceted 3.5%
culet none
I have asked about getting the stone set here and all the jewellers have given me the same point blank answer : i can do it but i cant guarantee anything, if the stone breaks Im not liable. So in other words they just dont want to do it. it doesnt leave me feeling very confidant.
What do I do????????????

 

[mani5ha]

Date: 1/19/2010 5:55:54 PM
Author: kkaramacoska
Im staring to become a little annoyed

. I havent had a reply from my consultant reguarding images and detailed proportions of the stones and Im getting impatiant..........
So what happens if I buy my setting form since1910.c0m and my stone from GOG? where will I get it set? If i get the setting sent to me in Australia I would then have to send it back to US to get it set (and that will take forever!), Is there an easier way? Will GOG set my stone if the setting is from another store? and if so , what do I do about an address for when I order the setting?
I feel lost and quite depressed. what started out as something wonderful and exciting is now just making me sad and confused.
Do I really need an ideal cut? every stone i have seen looks beautiful to me! Ive been checking out all my friends and clients rocks and i really cant see any difference in any of them.............. and some of them are quite cheap and im sure the cut standard is not great. Im just loosing my patience at this point. I want my ring!

I think Ive upset my consultant buy being so picky and annoying and thats why shes not returning my emails

I have some info on 1 stone if anyone cares to comment. I already know its not an ideal cut, the table is bordering too big so it will have slightly less fire but reflect more light, its a round briiliant, 0.70 carat, G colour, VS2 GIA certified #6117492763
depth 62%
table 59%
crown angle 36 degrees
crown height 15%
pavillion angle 41 degrees
pavillion depth 43.5%
star length 50%
girdle med to slightly thick, fasceted 3.5%
culet none
I have asked about getting the stone set here and all the jewellers have given me the same point blank answer : i can do it but i cant guarantee anything, if the stone breaks Im not liable. So in other words they just dont want to do it. it doesnt leave me feeling very confidant.
What do I do????????????

I don''t know much about stones but i can say that it can be a frustrating and sad experience obessessing over diamonds! I think maybe it might be a good idea to give yourself a break from diamond shopping, there''s no rush is there? That''s what I''ve done, i''ve let my bf take over as i was becoming too obsessive and would sit on PS til 4 am everyday looking at SMTR threads!!!!!! lol

 

[pancake]

My understanding is that GOG has a range of setting brands that they can order in for you, and they will set the stone in it. Alternatively you could have the loose stone from GOG sent to another jeweller to be set after you''ve paid for the stone. In Australia you can''t insure a loose stone whereas in the US it is usually covered by the jeweller''s insurance whilst being set - which to my mind is one of the two biggest advantages to having it set in the States, with the other being that it''s much cheaper.

I would also suggest that you read Lestat''s thread about importing jewellery made overseas into Australia and the AUSFTA - it''s here in the first couple of pages of threads.

 

[kkaramacoska]

Thanks guys. I am kind of in a rush. I really want the ring on my finger before my birthday............... March 20th.The setting im after is a Scott Kay. since1910 seem to be the cheapest.
by the way.................I finally have some photos . they are not great. this is the RB I was just talking about.

 

[Dreamer_D]

I am not crazy about the numbers on that diamond, or the appearance.

If you buy the setting from since1910 then have them ship it to the vendor who is selling you the diamond, and they can set your diamond into the setting. There will be a setting fee for this most likely. You really want the diamond vendor to set the diamond because they will take responsibility for damage.

This is a very large purchase, take your time and relax.

Also, who knows why your SA has not gotten back to you, but it is *is* because you annoyed them then that is not your problem. But I doubt that is the case. There is no room for rejection sensitivity in diamond buying, or any other financial transaction in my opinion.

 

[mani5ha]

doesn''t look very symmetrical but looks nice. Do you have the stats i.e. angles and depth etc? Is there a link to this diamond on the since1910.com site???

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 1/19/2010 5:55:54 PM
Author: kkaramacoska
I have some info on 1 stone if anyone cares to comment. I already know its not an ideal cut, the table is bordering too big so it will have slightly less fire but reflect more light, its a round briiliant, 0.70 carat, G colour, VS2 GIA certified #6117492763
depth 62%
table 59%
crown angle 36 degrees
crown height 15%
pavillion angle 41 degrees
pavillion depth 43.5%
star length 50%
girdle med to slightly thick, fasceted 3.5%
culet none

This diamond scores a 5.9 on the HCA, which means that it is NOT going to be a good performer. Also, it is deep and steep and so I am willing to bet it wil lface up smaller than an ideal cut diamond. I bet you don''t want to have a diamond that looks smaller than it should, now do you?

 

[kkaramacoska]

Thanks again, and no............... I guess I dont want my stone to look smaller than it should

,
I have a pic of an asscher aswell, however i dont have all the relevant infomation to help

I only have the basic info, GIA certified .71 carat VVS1, F colour. depth 66.6%. Table 57%
Gurdle slightly thick, culet none.

 

[kkaramacoska]

AH! sorry, picture wont upload. It does look good though I think.
I have looked at GOG, their diamonds cost a fortune! i couldnt find anything less than $8000. WHoa! My budget is $2500 max! for the stone plus $1800 for the setting. Its a very tight budget. Im loosing hope. Maybe I should just accept the fact that I cant afford a perfect stone.

does that make a diifference now to anyone whos looked at my choices? I didnt mention my budget so you guys wernt to know.

 

[CharmyPoo]

Email Jon and tell him what you are looking for. They will be able to source it for you. I am a super picky customer and Jon put up with me - all with a smile too.

 

[kkaramacoska]

Thankyou Charmypoo!, I will do that. I have started to find some other stones also.
James Allen has 2 in particular im looking at and they are going to get back to me tomorrow as to wether they will set one of their stones in a setting from a different store. the 2 Im looking at both ideal cut ( i have seen the certs) one is hearts and arrows which i know is good. the item numbers are 1132167, and 1241714 if anyone wants to see. Im sorry, i dont know how to post links.

 

[Bella_mezzo]

KK-There are tons of options in your budget. it''s ok! What about any of these? (the GOG are at the bottom...)

https://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-2228589.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1467047.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-2228592.htm

AGS-1040381680042 Brian Gavin H&A 0.746 G SI1 57.2 61.6 5.79 5.81 3.57 $2,533.00
AGS-1040381680058 Brian Gavin H&A 0.734 G SI1 56.7 61.2 5.81 5.83 3.55 $2,499.00
AGS-1040381680059 Brian Gavin H&A 0.718 G SI2 56.6 61.6 5.73 5.75 3.54 $2,167.00
AGS-1040381680061 Brian Gavin H&A 0.703 G SI1 55.7 61.6 5.70 5.74 3.52 $2,396.00
AGS-1040381680048 Brian Gavin H&A 0.794 I VS2 56.3 61.5 5.93 5.96 3.66 $2,544.00

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6643/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6523/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6524/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6756/

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6755/

 

[kkaramacoska]

thankyou for the suggestions! gosh im such a pain. cant tell you how grateful i am to all of you!!! having a look at gog stones now....................
just thought id mention today i went locally and looked at some rb stones, i was able to pick the H colour from the f and the g. but couldnt really tell between the f and g unless i really looked hard. And 1 was a si2 the other vs1, couldnt tell between them so must have been cut well. tiny though, 0.51 and 0.54