Calling all emerald experts

[badabling]

I’ve been looking for an emerald for a while and think I might have found the one. I loved Elle’s esme and wanted an emerald with similar color and glow.

I was looking for a cushion, minor oil, Colombian emerald with a bluish tint and that lit from inside glow. I don’t mind if it’s a little lighter than AAA+ (I don’t have the budget for that!) and don’t mind a little inclusion as long as the stone is vivid and glows.

Calling on all colored stone experts for advice on this stone. Does it check all the boxes? Did I miss anything? Is it worth the $4500+ per carat price?

Can someone please tell me how to add a video on this thread?

 

[badabling]

I hope this works! Please let me know if you can see a video of the stone.

https://imgur.com/a/liOzHly

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

I'm no expert, but I personally love the color. It's beautiful.

It looks decently sized as well, and the clarity is very good. I can't speak to PPC as I don't know the weight, origin or treatment level.

 

[Rfisher]

Not an expert either!
Can’t really tell - but I get the impression of an off center keel that’ll be making a tilt window more noticeable from one direction. Harder to tell if it’d be annoying or forgiveable when set/worn.

Forgiving on cut parameter like this for lovely glow, color, minor oil and size - I’d understand!

As been said, hard to give opinion on that price per carat without knowing at least ballpark carat the stone is.

 

[minousbijoux]

I love the color and glow!

 

[musicloveranthony]

The color and clarity looks nice, but the cut looks poor (if that matters to you)

 

[badabling]

I'm no expert, but I personally love the color. It's beautiful.

It looks decently sized as well, and the clarity is very good. I can't speak to PPC as I don't know the weight, origin or treatment level.

Thank you everyone for your response!

I loved the color and shape too. It is 3.15 carat 9.7x8.7mm face up which I thought was quite small. The vendor says it is minor oil only. I don’t know anything about the cut but I will ask the vendor about it. I’m not sure if the cut bothers me as much as color or vividness. Does the price $4900@carat sound reasonable?

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

Again, no expert, so I hope others who are more familiar with buying chime in, but personally a would say it's going retail.
Is it some great deal? No, but good luck finding one unless you know what you're doing. I don't.
I'm assuming it's the clarity that's driving it. I could be wrong, though.
It's hard to say without having it in hand. They behave differently on film. Nuance is lost. Emeralds are incredibly price fickle.
I would like a better cut, but I can forgive for such a beautiful color/clarity.
It also helps to get a video on the hand if you can to get a closer look at the stone and color.

Another retail vendor, check out JR and peruse to get a feel at their pricing/color grading. Always good to get comparisons.

3.81 Carat 10x8.5 Muzo Green Natural Loose Colombian Emerald- Emerald Cut

Stone: EmeraldWeight: 3.81-caratsShape: Emerald Cut Clarity: Transparent Luster: Very GoodColor: Muzo GreenMeasurements: 9.97mm x 8.66mm x 6.90mmGeographic Origin: ColombiaTreatment: Natural, OilingComments: Due to their growth conditions in nature and recovery methods, most emeralds contain...

jrcolombianemeralds.com

 

[Neptune]

I haven't followed pricing for a few years but $4500-$4900/ct seems high for this size, tone, and saturation, no?!

Minor Oil is defined by which lab?

 

[badabling]

I haven't followed pricing for a few years but $4500-$4900/ct seems high for this size, tone, and saturation, no?!

Minor Oil is defined by which lab?

Lab is GRS. Honestly I don’t know about prices because they seem to be all over the place and as a newbie I can’t tell what is driving the price up or down because they all look pretty much the same in the pictures.

 

[badabling]

I have two more contenders for emeralds…the smaller cushion is 2.26 and the bigger emerald cut stone is 2.79. Both minor oil and both muzo. Which of the two is better?

https://imgur.com/user/qzyt2hq5tc360

 

[badabling]

Again, no expert, so I hope others who are more familiar with buying chime in, but personally a would say it's going retail.
Is it some great deal? No, but good luck finding one unless you know what you're doing. I don't.
I'm assuming it's the clarity that's driving it. I could be wrong, though.
It's hard to say without having it in hand. They behave differently on film. Nuance is lost. Emeralds are incredibly price fickle.
I would like a better cut, but I can forgive for such a beautiful color/clarity.
It also helps to get a video on the hand if you can to get a closer look at the stone and color.

Another retail vendor, check out JR and peruse to get a feel at their pricing/color grading. Always good to get comparisons.

3.81 Carat 10x8.5 Muzo Green Natural Loose Colombian Emerald- Emerald Cut

Stone: EmeraldWeight: 3.81-caratsShape: Emerald Cut Clarity: Transparent Luster: Very GoodColor: Muzo GreenMeasurements: 9.97mm x 8.66mm x 6.90mmGeographic Origin: ColombiaTreatment: Natural, OilingComments: Due to their growth conditions in nature and recovery methods, most emeralds contain...

jrcolombianemeralds.com

Thank you and I have checked out both jrcolombianemeralds and George from
Muzo emeralds but they both seem much higher end. Of course they probably have better quality stones too.

I don’t expect to get a bargain just a fair retail price. I don’t have a huge budget and as a newbie I’m afraid to even go higher at this point. I just want the best stone within my budget.

 

[T L]

I think $4500/cr for a minor oil (GRS) and a 3-+ carat stone, of that color and clarity, seems reasonable. It’s not a steal, but I could easily see a retailer charging $8000/ct. Of course this is all based on photos, and if they’re accurate.

As for the stone being “small,” a 3+ carat emerald will face up quite large. It will look almost twice the size of a similar size sapphire, for example.

 

[Megan Hill]

I love the color!! The price seems fair for its quality. JR's 3.81 carat emerald looks good, but it has some visible black dots, which greatly lowers the value of the stone. in addition, they don`t specify the degree of treatment of the stone, which is also important.

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

I have two more contenders for emeralds…the smaller cushion is 2.26 and the bigger emerald cut stone is 2.79. Both minor oil and both muzo. Which of the two is better?

https://imgur.com/user/qzyt2hq5tc360

Could you repost those? It says no posts on Imgur.

 

[Autumn in New England]

I am in the minority along with @T L in thinking that the price per carat is within reason if the stone is as described. And if GRS certified it as minor oil, I'd feel comfortable. So, yes, I think it does tick all of your boxes. As a few others have pointed out, the cut isn't great, but it's not terrible either. Sometimes it's a give and take when buying, and you just have to decide what factors are important to you while staying on budget. Good luck!

 

[badabling]

Could you repost those? It says no posts on Imgur.

Hi…I’m sorry the link didn’t work. Here’s hoping it works

https://imgur.com/a/HcKAGtv

 

[badabling]

I found a couple others on JR Colombian emeralds but I’m worried if they would be too light IRL. I’ve realized I like the glow more than the deep green color of an old mine Muzo. Do the cuts in the JR stones look strange on the bottom? Also they seem more included than the first three stones.

6.64 Carat 12x10.5 Eye Clean Natural Loose Colombian Emerald- Chunky Emerald Cut

Stone: EmeraldWeight: 6.64-caratsShape: Emerald Cut Clarity: Transparent Luster: Very GoodColor: Medium GreenMeasurements: 12.33mm x 10.53mm x 7.40mmGeographic Origin: ColombiaTreatment: Natural, OilingComments: Due to their growth conditions in nature and recovery methods, most emeralds contain...

jrcolombianemeralds.com

4.24Carat 10.6x9 Bluish Green Natural Loose Colombian Emerald-Classic Emerald Cut

Stone: EmeraldWeight: 4.24-caratsShape: Emerald Cut Clarity: TransparentLuster: Very GoodColor: Bluish GreenMeasurements: 10.69mm x 9.23mm x 6.06mmGeographic Origin: ColombiaTreatment: Natural, OilingComments: Due to their growth conditions in nature and recovery methods, most emeralds contain...

jrcolombianemeralds.com

5.29 Carat Certified 10.5 x 9.7 Bluish Natural Loose Colombian Emerald-Cushion Cut

Stone: EmeraldWeight: 5.29-caratsShape: Cushion Cut Clarity: TransparentLuster: ExcellentColor: Bluish GreenMeasurements: 10.59mm x 9.70mm x 8.06mmGeographic Origin: ColombiaTreatment: Natural, Moderate OilComments: Due to their growth conditions in nature and recovery methods, most emeralds...

jrcolombianemeralds.com

I guess this one would be my ideal in terms of color, shape, size and glow but sadly the budget does not allow.

3.55 Carat 10x9 AAA+ Muzo Green Natural Loose Colombian Emerald-Cushion Cut

Stone: EmeraldWeight: 3.55-caratsShape: Cushion Cut Clarity: TransparentLuster: ExcellentColor: Muzo GreenMeasurements: 9.90mm x 8.87mm x 6.68mmGeographic Origin: ColombiaTreatment: Natural, OilingComments: Due to their growth conditions in nature and recovery methods, most emeralds contain...

jrcolombianemeralds.com

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

I still love the first emerald you showed best.

It has the best of everything for me at least as far as I can see in images. Do you know what their return policy is?

My rank of the other two would would be...
#2 smaller cushion looks very similar to the first in tone/color on my monitor. Not bad at all either!
#3 would be the emerald cut from same vendor. Also lovely.


The Jr's are nice, but they lack saturation and I don't know how pricing stacks up.

 

[T L]

I wish JR would state the amount of treatment in all their pricier listings. That makes a huge difference in price. The third JR listing is the only one that states the amount of treatment, which is moderate. This s why a 5+ carat stone is $16k and not $30k. I would prefer minor oil (and determined from a major lab).

 

[T L]

I still love the first emerald you showed best.

It has the best of everything for me at least as far as I can see in images. Do you know what their return policy is?

My rank of the other two would would be...
#2 smaller cushion looks very similar to the first in tone/color on my monitor. Not bad at all either!
#3 would be the emerald cut from same vendor. Also lovely.


The Jr's are nice, but they lack saturation and I don't know how pricing stacks up.

I find JR on the pricier side for the quality as of late, but JMO.

 

[badabling]

I still love the first emerald you showed best.

It has the best of everything for me at least as far as I can see in images. Do you know what their return policy is?

My rank of the other two would would be...
#2 smaller cushion looks very similar to the first in tone/color on my monitor. Not bad at all either!
#3 would be the emerald cut from same vendor. Also lovely.


The Jr's are nice, but they lack saturation and I don't know how pricing stacks up.

Thank you for your recommendations!! I agree the first is the best but it’s double the price of the other two. I was leaning toward the emerald just because it was cleaner and looked bigger but I so wanted a cushion cut…I’m not a fan of the sharp edges of an emerald cut especially since I want to set it in a vintage style.

JR’s are cheaper but I agree the stones are not as saturated or as clean. Also the moderate treatment is a big drawback.

 

[badabling]

I wish JR would state the amount of treatment in all their pricier listings. That makes a huge difference in price. The third JR listing is the only one that states the amount of treatment, which is moderate. This s why a 5+ carat stone is $16k and not $30k. I would prefer minor oil (and determined from a major lab).

Thank you for responding! I do agree on the minor oil treatment… it’s just that I wanted a big stone but I guess I’ll have to get that another day when the budget is bigger.

 

[Rfisher]

I agree with @ItsMainelyYou
The first one would be my pick within your parameters and what you’ve shown.

Have you seen the lab report - they have it or it’s what they expect?

 

[ItsMainelyYou]

Thank you for your recommendations!! I agree the first is the best but it’s double the price of the other two. I was leaning toward the emerald just because it was cleaner and looked bigger but I so wanted a cushion cut…I’m not a fan of the sharp edges of an emerald cut especially since I want to set it in a vintage style.

JR’s are cheaper but I agree the stones are not as saturated or as clean. Also the moderate treatment is a big drawback.

Well, then it's ruminating on what you want and what is most comfortable pricewise to you, because it has to both of those things.
The smaller cushion is very similar color wise and the jardin is pleasing, so a real contender if you don't want to spend boku bucks on the bigger stone.
Which one sings to you?

 

[elle_71125]

I personally like the color & saturation of the 1st emerald you showed best. I love the cushion shape too (it was what I was originally looking for when I found Esme). I’m certainly no expert, but the price seems fair. And of course, as other users have mentioned, the cut isn’t as good as one may like. One thing I’d recommend is getting video of the stone on someone’s fingers. It’s a really good way to gauge the stone’s cutting & if it has any overwhelming windowing.

 

[badabling]

I personally like the color & saturation of the 1st emerald you showed best. I love the cushion shape too (it was what I was originally looking for when I found Esme). I’m certainly no expert, but the price seems fair. And of course, as other users have mentioned, the cut isn’t as good as one may like. One thing I’d recommend is getting video of the stone on someone’s fingers. It’s a really good way to gauge the stone’s cutting & if it has any overwhelming windowing.

Hi…I’m so glad you responded!! I wrote to the vendor asking for a stone that had the same color and glow as your Esme!!! I love how it looks and that setting is to die for!!

 

[badabling]

Well, then it's ruminating on what you want and what is most comfortable pricewise to you, because it has to both of those things.
The smaller cushion is very similar color wise and the jardin is pleasing, so a real contender if you don't want to spend boku bucks on the bigger stone.
Which one sings to you?

I’m torn between all three!!! I’ve asked for a little time to think it over…maybe one will speak out louder to me.

Thank you everyone for your help!!! PS community’s honest feedback has been invaluable!!