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Perhaps you work from different definitions, but bruises are not deemed blemishes by GIA:gr8leo87|1456780155|3997483 said:Also bruise is a blemish and not an inclusion. Blemishes don't form part of the inclusion grade - they form part of the polish grade. Unless that blemish is an indented natural which is then considered an inclusion.
No I don't work from different definitions. How many times have you seen my definition different from what it actually is?MollyMalone said:Perhaps you work from different definitions, but bruises are not deemed blemishes by GIA:gr8leo87|1456780155|3997483 said:Also bruise is a blemish and not an inclusion. Blemishes don't form part of the inclusion grade - they form part of the polish grade. Unless that blemish is an indented natural which is then considered an inclusion.
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2013/diamond-blemishes-defined
Rather, as seen in this link diamondseeker supplied up-thread yesterday,
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2013/diamond-inclusions-defined
GIA categorizes bruises (more descriptively a/k/a percussion marks) as inclusions that stand apart from indented naturals, which GIA also plots differently than bruises:
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2015/gia-diamond-grading-reports-understanding-diamond-clarity-plotting-diagram
Also I never said indented natural was a bruise.MollyMalone said:Perhaps you work from different definitions, but bruises are not deemed blemishes by GIA:gr8leo87|1456780155|3997483 said:Also bruise is a blemish and not an inclusion. Blemishes don't form part of the inclusion grade - they form part of the polish grade. Unless that blemish is an indented natural which is then considered an inclusion.
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2013/diamond-blemishes-defined
Rather, as seen in this link diamondseeker supplied up-thread yesterday,
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2013/diamond-inclusions-defined
GIA categorizes bruises (more descriptively a/k/a percussion marks) as inclusions that stand apart from indented naturals, which GIA also plots differently than bruises:
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2015/gia-diamond-grading-reports-understanding-diamond-clarity-plotting-diagram
gr8leo87|1456784046|3997531 said:No I don't work from different definitions. How many times have you seen my definition different from what it actually is?MollyMalone said:Perhaps you work from different definitions, but bruises are not deemed blemishes by GIA:gr8leo87|1456780155|3997483 said:Also bruise is a blemish and not an inclusion. Blemishes don't form part of the inclusion grade - they form part of the polish grade. Unless that blemish is an indented natural which is then considered an inclusion.
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2013/diamond-blemishes-defined
Rather, as seen in this link diamondseeker supplied up-thread yesterday,
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2013/diamond-inclusions-defined
GIA categorizes bruises (more descriptively a/k/a percussion marks) as inclusions that stand apart from indented naturals, which GIA also plots differently than bruises:
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2015/gia-diamond-grading-reports-understanding-diamond-clarity-plotting-diagram
That's right a bruise is a surface reaching inclusion and not a blemish. Correction acknowledged. Thank you very much.
I would suppose what would set bruise apart from a nick is the surface breach. If it actually creates feathers and penetrate into a diamond it would have to be an inclusion no matter how small that might be. Please correct me.PS34one said:gr8leo87|1456784046|3997531 said:No I don't work from different definitions. How many times have you seen my definition different from what it actually is?MollyMalone said:Perhaps you work from different definitions, but bruises are not deemed blemishes by GIA:gr8leo87|1456780155|3997483 said:Also bruise is a blemish and not an inclusion. Blemishes don't form part of the inclusion grade - they form part of the polish grade. Unless that blemish is an indented natural which is then considered an inclusion.
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2013/diamond-blemishes-defined
Rather, as seen in this link diamondseeker supplied up-thread yesterday,
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2013/diamond-inclusions-defined
GIA categorizes bruises (more descriptively a/k/a percussion marks) as inclusions that stand apart from indented naturals, which GIA also plots differently than bruises:
http://4csblog.gia.edu/2015/gia-diamond-grading-reports-understanding-diamond-clarity-plotting-diagram
That's right a bruise is a surface reaching inclusion and not a blemish. Correction acknowledged. Thank you very much.
Great info. Just to clarify further why a bruise can be so tricky, technically a bruise on a high clarity is a little bit like a large nick. The size determines weather or not it is a blemish/polish feature (nick), or a clarity characteristic (bruise). If you see Bruise on something above a VS1 its so minor it was just barely larger than a nick but large enough to justify being called a clarity characteristic.
Absolutely.MollyMalone said:That's been my understanding as well, gr8leo87: that it warrants being labeled a bruise (and therefore an inclusion) if there are, borrowing GIA's descriptor, "very small, root-like feathers" below the surface. Similar to the crackles produced by a stone that happens to hit your car windshield just right, so to speak.
Hey you already said in your original post that you weren't worried about it - and that you just needed to know what is.bright ice said:Thanks for the input. So, they should be of no concern then as my main question?