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allikatac

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My boyfriend and I have already decided on a setting from the local jeweler. Today we went to look at loose diamonds and I can''t say that I was blown away. We only viewed 4 round brilliant and the one that I liked the most was .81 ct, good cut, G, SI2, no flor., good symmetry and polish, and I can''t remember the depth or table. It was eye clean and it looked nice. It is GIA cert. The price is 2,673.

We decided to do some comparison shopping on blue nile and we have come across a few comparable diamonds that I think may be better, but I wanted a few other opinions... here is the specs on one from blue nile. GIA cert....It cost 2,462.


Stock number: LD00428289

Carat weight: 0.84
Cut: Ideal
Color: G
Clarity: SI2
Depth %: 60.9%
Table %: 59%
Symmetry: Very good
Polish: Very good
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.08x6.11x3.71 mm

If someone could give some advice it would greatly appreciated. We''re a little nervous about purchasing a diamond sight unseen. Also, we''re not sure how the local jeweler will feel about it.
 
i would be hesitant to buy something site unseen as well. bluenile drop ships the majority of their diamonds, so they haven''t seen them either. i would only buy online from a vendor that provides enough information about the stone to make a good judgement about it. best of luck to you!
 
we have been doing quite a bit of comparison shopping for a few months now. Most have been at "maul" jewelery stores to get an idea of what we wanted, but most of their quality is awful. I''m pretty sure that first ring had a table of 61%. I am still not sure though what the tables or depths should be?
 
Inventory can be limited at local jewelers, but they can sometimes bring in stones for you if they know what you want. You can click on knowledge at the top of this page to learn a ton about diamond cut and other valuable information. Online vendors are a good source for checking out a variety of well cut diamonds.
 
Thanks.. we had the local jeweler bring in a few diamonds and we have ordered more to look at. I have been doing a lot of research on the 4 c''s and many other things on pricescope the last month as well as my bf, we just hope to make the right decision!
 
Get yourself an Idealscope and a light table. The link is under "Tools" in the upper right...

That way you can look at a local jewers diamonds and see if they have good light return or not. The jeweler can also see what you are doing - and the better ones will know how to bring in diamonds that will have good idealscope images.

My purchasing of the idealscope (and associated things) is the best investment I ever made. It saved me far more than its cost - and will save a lot more in the future.

By and large - blue nile has no clue on this as almost all of their diamonds are in ''virtual'' inventory and they have never seen them (and never will).

I have no problem with you shopping a decent local jeweler. The pricing is a bit higher - but they can provide a level of service and comfort that an internet jeweler cannot.

Perry
 
For me personally, if I am going to go the internet route I wouldn't buy a diamond from blue nile because of their lack of information on most stones (straight drop ship for most stones, as said before). There are better choices that keep getting talked about on this forum and elsewhere for online. It's like you're getting the worst of both worlds--blue nile prices are pretty high for online and you nor *THEY* have seen it when you buy it.
 
Date: 2/18/2006 9:10:34 PM
Author: Garysax
For me personally, if I am going to go the internet route I wouldn''t buy a diamond from blue nile because of their lack of information on most stones (straight drop ship for most stones, as said before). There are better choices that keep getting talked about on this forum and elsewhere for online. It''s like you''re getting the worst of both worlds--blue nile prices are pretty high for online and you nor *THEY* have seen it when you buy it.
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What about Blue Nile''s "Signature Ideal" rings? Claims an average of F & VVS2 over 5 stones in 950 platinum and I can seem to beat the price if I select individual diamonds. Link
 
Date: 2/18/2006 9:45:34 PM
Author: trexmgd
Date: 2/18/2006 9:10:34 PM

Author: Garysax

For me personally, if I am going to go the internet route I wouldn't buy a diamond from blue nile because of their lack of information on most stones (straight drop ship for most stones, as said before). There are better choices that keep getting talked about on this forum and elsewhere for online. It's like you're getting the worst of both worlds--blue nile prices are pretty high for online and you nor *THEY* have seen it when you buy it.
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What about Blue Nile's 'Signature Ideal' rings? Claims an average of F & VVS2 over 5 stones in 950 platinum and I can seem to beat the price if I select individual diamonds. Link
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Your link sends me to microsoft.com, but that might be my browser. Those are all their in house stones, right? I'm sure they have info on those... I was talking more about stones they're getting at other suppliers in their search engine, I don't think they bring those in for Idealscope or to eye them for you to see if they're good stones. That's a pretty big deal for me if I'm buying a fancy. I'm definitely not saying they don't sell nice stones and aren't a reputable dealer.

I didn't buy anything through them so correct me if I'm wrong. I just found when doing searches that blue nile stones are consistently more expensive than, say, James Allen or Whiteflash and it's harder to get info on them (their non in-house stones).
 
Bluenile signature stones are probably better than your average diamonds - I agree.

Want more information: Just ask BlueNile for a Idealscope (or similar) picture, or enough specs to enter into the HCA (under tools), or a sarin report, etc....

When I asked about those about 1.5 years ago I was told that BlueNile did not "need" to use such tecnology to select diamonds for their ''signature collection'' and did not have any of it available....

I also asked about dropping in and previewing the signature collection diamonds and was told that they did not have or allow customers to view their diamonds in house.

In the end you have to decide what you are comfortable with at what price.

Best of luck.

Perry
 
You said you did not know what the measurements should be, so I''ll give you some that I found somewhere on this site, I think.

AGS-0 Ideal

Table width 52.4-57.5%

Crown Angle 33.7-35.8

Pavilion Depth 40.15-41.2

Girdle Thickness Thin, Medium, or Sl. Thick

Culet size none, pointed, very small, medium

(Total Depth 59-61.8)

AGS-1 Excellent

Table width 51.4-52.3% or 57.6-59.5

Crown Angle 32.7-33.6 or 35.9-36.3


Pavilion Depth 43.9-44.3%


Girdle Thickness Very Thin (I personally would avoid this because of the possibility of chipping)


Culet size slightly large


(Total Depth 61.8)

These are measurements for the two top grades. I would stick to these. If you like the Blue Nile site, then I''d switch over to James Allen where the prices are better in most cases that I have found. Many of the GIA certified diamonds (which are fine) do not give you all those measurements,though. You''ll get table width and total depth at least and it will tell you if the stone is Ideal or Premium cut. You are fine with very good or better polish and symmetry.



 
Date: 2/19/2006 4:34:40 AM
Author: perry
Bluenile signature stones are probably better than your average diamonds - I agree.


Want more information: Just ask BlueNile for a Idealscope (or similar) picture, or enough specs to enter into the HCA (under tools), or a sarin report, etc....


When I asked about those about 1.5 years ago I was told that BlueNile did not ''need'' to use such tecnology to select diamonds for their ''signature collection'' and did not have any of it available....


I also asked about dropping in and previewing the signature collection diamonds and was told that they did not have or allow customers to view their diamonds in house.


In the end you have to decide what you are comfortable with at what price.


Best of luck.


Perry
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Right, their signature stones are a different ballgame. They have them inhouse and can give you more info on them, I think.
 
I found out some more of the measurements from the GIA report on the .81 from the local jeweler.

Depth -63
Table-60
Girlde-medium
no cutlet

If anyone has anymore advice on these measurements I would greatly appreciate it once again! Thanks!
 
Just remember though, that number are just that.......numbers. A table of 59% can still be quite beautiful. My diamond is considered 60/60, where its table is 59% and its depth is 59.8%. It''s GIA graded so I don''t know the crown/pavilion angles. But,it''s a stunning stone. While my stones numbers may not put it in the ideal range, it''s beauty certainly does.

The point I''m making is there are a lot of factors that determine the beauty of a diamond. Knowing the numbers is good. Seeing the stone or using the eyes of someone you can trust is better.

JMHO..........
 
Garysax;

I believe you missed the point of my post on the Signature Series... as of 1.5 years ago Bluenile was not willing to give you more information - except of course the general criteria that they use for selecting what a "Signature" diamond is...

Now perhaps they have changed since then - someone will have to ask and find out.

Perry
 
Date: 2/20/2006 8:12:43 PM
Author: perry
Garysax;


I believe you missed the point of my post on the Signature Series... as of 1.5 years ago Bluenile was not willing to give you more information - except of course the general criteria that they use for selecting what a ''Signature'' diamond is...


Now perhaps they have changed since then - someone will have to ask and find out.


Perry
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Reading it again, I think I did miss the point and misread your post... sorry!
 
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