I don't get waxed, I get sugared. Doens't hurt, it just feels like ripping off tape off of skin.. doesn't rip out skin. Never got an ingrown from it either. I suggest exfoliate the day before going.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/...oval-treatment-pain-what-is-it_n_7697128.html
Perhaps using a laser might be another option and yes that hurts like the Bezezus too.
Lol no!
I have never waxed or sugared or anything like that. I just keep it nicely groomed with a trimmer. And no thanks to going bare. There's a reason we have hair and I like mine thank you very much. But people vary and whatever works for you and your partner. It's all good when it comes to that.
Also the hair just becomes really coarse if you trim it down. I don't have this problem with leg hair though. Perhaps my hair down there is extra resilient or is this common?
I love natural body hair.
I hate men shaving body hair.
That's like burning 100 dollar bills because you've been convinced $100 bills are disgusting.
And why should women be held to a less-natural standard than men?
IMO this anti-hair thing is just more corporate American brainwashing so you'll feel like shit about your natural body so you'll buy their products and services to once again make you feel okay about yourself.
... same as the multi-billion-dollar BE SKINNY, OR ELSE! industry.
IOW
Rise above it.
Embrace your natural self.
The 'It's there for a reason' argument amuses me - if it grows, it must be for a reason? In that case, why do women remove body hair everywhere else? It should be one rule for all lol
Pubic hair helps your body in multiple ways
While in the grand scheme of things, humans have much less body hair than other animals, the hair we do have is not accidental ––and this goes for pubic hair, as well! According to Dr. Streicher, pubic hair exists to serve many purposes. "Biologically, there is a reason we have pubic hair," she says. "From a medical point of view, it decreases friction and lubrication."
We’re the only mammal to have long, coarse pubic hair, actually, so it’s likely to be there for a reason.
Pubic hair appears during puberty to work as a signal to potential mates that we’re ready to mate. It also acts as protection from friction during sex.
Hair down there acts as a cushion during intercourse and help men maintain an erection. "When you have two bodies that are rubbing together, pubic hair stops friction and decreases potential discomfort," she says. "It keeps the genitals warm ––and for a guy trying to maintain an erection, you have to have warm genitals.
It’s been theorised that the pubic hair removal trend correlates with an increase in gonorrhea, chlamydia, and HPV.
Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/17/heres-why-you-shouldnt-shave-your-pubes-5757915/#ixzz4hWN7fQEi
Who knew pubic hair was offered our bodies so many benefits?
there is no question the decision to remove one's pubic hair is a personal one if there ever was a personal decision to be made this is it. On that I am sure we agree.
I am in the camp that I am an adult woman and don't want to be bare and look like a prepubescent school girl but YMMV.
As you say, in the end it is (or should be) about personal choice and we should all respect each other's choicesShave don't shave, laser don't laser, sugar don't sugar. Let's not get all hairy about it.
Definitely
This does seem to be a response that one reads fairly often, but I don't think it's about that for the vast majority of people that have a preference for hair removal - the media obsession with paedophilia would have us believe that every man is a predator waiting to pounce, but what about lesbian relationships? Either way, in a mutually agreeable relationship between consenting Homo Sapiens (be it a 2-hour 'relationship' lol or one that lasts a lifetime) it's entirely possible that sexual practices won't consist solely of penetrative intercourse
So, while the points around physiological benefits of hair made in the clip linked to do have validity in theory (although I would dispute the need to keep Little Johnny warm ) I think that overcoming any alleged disbenefits is likely to form an enjoyable part of a mutual partnership lol
As you say, in the end it is (or should be) about personal choice and we should all respect each other's choices
Hi,+1 for sugaring - it pulls the hairs out in the direction of their growth so it's less painful than waxing, IIRC. It's also easier to clean up as it's basically just natural ingredients, the same way as rinsing sugary, sticky hands under a tap is quicker and easier than trying to scrub off wax-based substances.
There's also IPL, which is different to lasering. Both aim to reduce hair growth more permanently, though.
The 'It's there for a reason' argument amuses me - if it grows, it must be for a reason? In that case, why do women remove body hair everywhere else? It should be one rule for all lol
And anyway, it's not like we're roaming the plains of Pangaea and needing to keep warm / attract a mate from a couple of miles away Perhaps following WW3 we'll need to do such things, but we should cross that bridge when we come to it lol
The hair doesn't grow more coarsely, the hair follicle itself doesn't change. It's just that if you trim / shave it down, the naturally-grown hair shaft is thicker at the base than at the tip, which means that when it continues to grow, it's thick from base to tip and looks thicker. Think of trees - they start off growing as thin twigs and the trunk gets thicker as they grow. If you chop all the small branches off the top of the tree, you're only left with the fat trunk
Waxing regrowth looks less coarse because the trees are having to grow from the ground again lol
To quote something a greater man than I once said People vary.
It's fine if you're a bear of a man and have a thick, even, glossy coat but the majority of men are patchy at best. Why not just tidy up the patchy bits if nothing else?
Society has long been removing body hair in the name of aesthetics, religion and, presumably, sexual preferences. The Romans did it for sure, and IIRC the Muslim religion (that has been around for at least a couple of thousand years) states that one should remove body hair from the genital regions. Would Greco-Roman statues of both sexes look better with crazy mops of wire-y fuzz sticking out at all angles from the places the sun does not reach? I'm not so sure... lol
I love natural body hair.
I hate men shaving body hair.
That's like burning 100 dollar bills because you've been convinced $100 bills are disgusting.
And why should women be held to a less-natural standard than men?
IMO this anti-hair thing is just more corporate American brainwashing so you'll feel like shit about your natural body so you'll buy their products and services to once again make you feel okay about yourself.
... same as the multi-billion-dollar BE SKINNY, OR ELSE! industry.
IOW
Rise above it.
Embrace your natural self.
Hi,
I just had IPL done to my face and chest for redness. I can definitely tell you that this is a laser procedure.
So what's the difference between IPL and laser hair removal technology?
Unlike laser treatments, which have just one specific wavelength emitted from the diode depending on what you're targeting, IPL has multiple wavelengths (all between 500 and 1,200 nanometres) that scatter within the skin.
As with all light based treatments, IPL works by emitting a wavelength into the skin, which in the case of hair removal targets pigment. "It works in the same way black clothing absorbs heat on a hot day, versus white clothing which reflects it," explains laser specialist Debbie Thomas. "The light is absorbed by the pigment in the hair. It quickly turns to heat which then kills the growing cells that make the hair," Thomas adds.
How do IPL and laser hair removal work?
Unlike laser treatments, which emit a specific wavelength, IPL works like a flash-lamp, sending out scattered wavelengths of light, making IPL very targeted. That also means it affects the pigment in your skin too, so IPL only really works for those with fair skin and dark hair.
"It's now generally accepted that IPL is a good workhorse for treating blood vessels, but not a very good one for hair removal. The truth is, it's limited and quite uncomfortable," says Dr Patrick Bowler, laser expert, and director of Courthouse Clinics. "The great thing about laser is that you can specifically set them up, adapting the nanometre of the wavelengths to target an exact pigment. For example we know that brown hair is zapped at 800 nanometres."
The technology uses a high-powered, hand-held, computer-controlled flashgun to deliver an intense, visible, broad-spectrum pulse of light, generally in the visible spectral range of 400 to 1200 nm.
Various cutoff filters are commonly used to selectively filter out lower wavelengths, especially potentially damaging ultra violet light. The resulting light has a spectral range that targets specific structures and chromophores (e.g. melanin in hair, or oxyhemoglobin in blood vessels) that are heated to destruction and reabsorbed by the body.
IPL shares some similarities with laser treatments, in that they both use light to heat and destroy their targets. But unlike lasers that use a single wavelength (colour) of light which typically matches only one chromophore, and hence only one condition, IPL uses a broad spectrum that when used with filters, allows it to be used against several conditions.
I don't know about anyone else, but in the normal course of a day, people see my legs, and in the summer, possibly even my underarms, (that's why I remove the hair) but there's only one other person who sees my nether regions
I'm not sure I ever felt the need to ask my doctor if IPL was technically a laser treatment. Whenever you look up "IPL," it is referred to as the "IPL laser." When I was in the laser surgery room, the machine looked like all of the other laser machines. The action felt like the description of all of the other lasers. I just assumed that IPL as indeed a laser treatment.Hey House Cat,
May I ask if that is what your consultant told you?
In technical terms, IPL is not laser, although they work in a similar way, using energy in the form of light to affect a change.
Laser uses one wavelength that has been created through amplification, but IPL uses a wide range of wavelengths that haven't been amplified, which can be narrowed using filters to target specific requirements.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/beauty/skin/does-ipl-hair-removal-really-work/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intense_pulsed_light
I is just a bit geek when it comes to technology lolI'm not sure I ever felt the need to ask my doctor if IPL was technically a laser treatment. Whenever you look up "IPL," it is referred to as the "IPL laser." When I was in the laser surgery room, the machine looked like all of the other laser machines. The action felt like the description of all of the other lasers. I just assumed that IPL as indeed a laser treatment.
So, that being said, thank you. IPL isn't technically a laser treatment.
I think that is a problem that is difficult to overcome - AIUI both laser and IPL act by the melanin within the skin/hair roots absorbing the energy from the light, so if there's little melanin (like in blonde hair roots) there's nothing for it to work with.The hair on my face is very light and fine. I did not experience any loss of hair on my face due to the IPL. As a matter of fact, I had my treatment done by a very well respected dermatologist in town and the results for redness were poor at best. Next time I will do Vbeam.
But @kenny's point is that women shouldn't have separate standards to men - so if you want to go out with inch-long leg hair and under-arm hair and 4-weeks of moustache growth, you should feel able and happy to do so because society shouldn't judge you for it! It's a fair point when you think about it but I think there's a long way to go before we are so cerebral that external appearance really doesn't matter one bit lol
I don't it for anyone else. I do it for myself, I don't want hairy legs and armpits. My DH isn't hairy at all, never has been, I'm not attracted to hairy men, as I said, each to their own.
I don't it for anyone else @OoohShiny, I do it for myself, I don't want hairy legs and armpits.
But @kenny would ask why that is - have societal norms been engrained into you from birth, meaning you subconsciously feel it is the right thing to do and aren't as independent of mind as you think you are?I am the same way Austina. I shave my legs and under my arms for me and not as often as I used to because there isn't as much hair there anymore. LOL I never thought I'd miss it but I am sort of sad haha. I love the feeling of smoothly shaved legs. I just do and I do it for me and only me. Society doesn't dictate what to do for me either. We are independent thinking women. You go girl!
FWIW, and probably TMI lol, I'm not a particularly fuzzy chap in the first place but I, too, prefer to be 'tidy', although societal norms for the male of the species do make me somewhat self-conscious about it. That's a different discussion, though... lolMy DH isn't hairy at all, never has been, I'm not attracted to hairy men, as I said, each to their own.
To quote something a greater man than I once said People vary.
It's fine if you're a bear of a man and have a thick, even, glossy coat but the majority of men are patchy at best. Why not just tidy up the patchy bits if nothing else?
Society has long been removing body hair in the name of aesthetics, religion and, presumably, sexual preferences. The Romans did it for sure, and IIRC the Muslim religion (that has been around for at least a couple of thousand years) states that one should remove body hair from the genital regions. Would Greco-Roman statues of both sexes look better with crazy mops of wire-y fuzz sticking out at all angles from the places the sun does not reach? I'm not so sure... lol
Societal norms had nothing to do with my decision to defur. It was the decline in toilet paper quality. Can't find one that doesn't fall apart and leave tiny remnants stubbornly clinging to hair which I find intolerable gross.
This is encouraging to read. Thank you for this. I was wondering if I was a hard case and my redness was just *too much for IPL!*House Cat please feel free ignore my question if it is too personal but why are you getting the laser treatments? I know you said for redness but is it just for redness or other symptoms too? In the mid 2000's I had VBeam and KTP Laser and IPL. VBeam was the only thing that helped me but I did it for my flushing and burning. It helped me a lot but the down time was 6 weeks where my face was bruised and swollen. But it was worth it. Anyway just wanted to chime in if it could be of any help for you. I found IPL ineffective but as with many treatments the results can be and often are different for each individual. If I can be of any help please contact me. I am on loupe troop.
This is encouraging to read. Thank you for this. I was wondering if I was a hard case and my redness was just *too much for IPL!*
I did IPL strictly for redness. I am getting redder as the years pass. They say it's sun damage. I had my chest and face done. They made it sound as though all of my redness worries would be over but I see very little change.
I will definitely do the Vbeam next. Did you have to make yourself flush for the treatment? I was very swollen with IPL for several days. I'm not afraid of swelling and bruising.
Thank you for all of this really great information Missy. It's good to know that I don't have to create flushing. I read somewhere that I did. I've decided to wait until after the summer to have this done. I live in a super warm area and I don't want to deal with the healing in the heat.I did not do anything before treatment to make myself flush and I wouldn't worry about that for you since you are doing it for permanent redness so the areas treated will be obvious to the doctor. Make sure you stop all meds (with the ok from your doctors of course) and supplements that can thin the blood for 10 days before VBeam. Things like fish oil, aspirin, gingko biloba, garlic, vitamin C, E, Niacin to name a few.
Make sure the person (hopefully the doctor is the one who performs the VBeam on you) doing your VBeam has the experience necessary and it is better to be less aggressive in treatment (IMO) for the first VBeam to see how you react. You will most likely need more than one treatment to successfully treat the redness but again only after the treatment and your healing will you know how you respond/react to the laser and then you will know where to go from there. It is better to be conservative and slow and steady in progress.
I am sure you already know this but be vigilant about wearing sunscreen before and after any treatments because it makes you that much more sensitive to the UV rays. And bring a big hat and big sunglasses for after treatment so you don't feel self conscious. I took the subway to and from my treatments so I was definitely in view and didn't want to scare any small children haha so I made sure to cover my face as best as possible when returning home from treatment. And try not scheduling anything for at least a few days after treatment to give your face time to recover and you don't add any stress while healing. Best to be calm during this time for the best results.
Good luck!
I tried the waxing thing only once. That was enough. I don't grow enough hair down there anyway so I just keep it neat.
The other half shaves chest and around the disco stick because he ends up with a heat rash in the summer if he doesn't. We don't need him complaining.
I cannot believe no one in this crowd has commented on "disco stick"!
Arcadian, I'm SO using this. And it gives those 70s spinning shiny balls a whole new context.