Big Daddy 48

[Moh 10]

Are you affiliated with DIAMONDS?

You are new and have plugged them several times already.

I have never heard of them and besides, I'd never buy a diamond on eBay or one without a GIA or AGS report.
You don't know what grades you are really getting with other labs.

I've never heard UGL discussed here.

 

[Big daddy 48]

Not at all. I have purchased from Blue Nile, Joe Rodeo, Etc. When purchasing a complete ring and not an individual stone I have got great buys from Liori.

 

[Big daddy 48]

I some what agree with you on the other labs if you deal with one of the workers. No matter what stones I purchase or where I purchase them from I get them appraised my self, even if they have a GIA certificate. Anyone can dummy up anything and I don''t trust a sole! I have had some good experience with EGL. They are a little pricey but they are pretty much on the money. I know I am new to this forum but I am a collector and love diamonds. I think this price scope thing is great!

 

[Moh 10]

I see this vendor sells clarity-enhanced white diamonds and color enhanced colored ones.

When this lab states the clarity is SI1 is that before or after the enhancement?

 

[Moh 10]

Here is one of their reports.

 

[Moh 10]

Here is one of their reports.
How can a "lab" grade diamonds AFTER they are mounted?

GIA and AGS will not grade a stone unless it is loose.
I think they want to be able to see it.

How can a lab be considered reputable if they grade diamonds they can't even see all of?

 

[Big daddy 48]

The grading is after the enhancement. This is why I bring anything I purchase to EGL. Even if it''s a GIA stone with a cert. Most stones I purchase are loose. Even if they are mounted I pay extra to have them removed and graded.

 

[Big daddy 48]

I am kind of new to this site as I stated before and have a friendly question. How do I post a picture next to my name?

 

[Moh 10]

If you mean an avatar, go up and click on personal section, then scroll down to "Upload a custom avatar to our system:"

 

[Big daddy 48]

It states restricted access. Maybe because I am new on here. Thank you anyway. I appreciate it.

 

[Moh 10]

A couple things.

Your file must follow these rules or they system will not accept it.

Avatar upload settings:
File size (max): 100000 bytes (100KB)
File size (min): 1 bytes
Supported file extensions: gif,jpg,jpeg,pdf,png,ppt,gem,dmc,srn

Your avatar should be size: 96 pixels by 96 pixels or else it will look distorted

Plus it must be named a unique name that PS has never seen before.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 8/1/2009 12:51:16 AM
Author: Big daddy 48
The grading is after the enhancement. This is why I bring anything I purchase to EGL. Even if it''s a GIA stone with a cert. Most stones I purchase are loose. Even if they are mounted I pay extra to have them removed and graded.

So you take a GIA graded stone to be re-graded from EGL?

Can you please explain the reasoning behind this, out of interest?

 

[Big daddy 48]

The reason being is your basically getting a piece of paper. Now in most of our eyes GIA is the most respected lab there is, correct? Now so you know when purchasing a colored diamond they could be enhanced after the report was made and sold as non enhanced. This is why I bring my stones to EGL. They give me an accurate rating and it dosn''t cost much to do.

 

[elle_chris]

UGL is crap, pure crap. They make EGL look amazing.

I won't go into my own experience with this pathetic company because I still get mad just thinking about it. Their "appraisals" aren't worth the paper they're written on. To say they inflate the value and grades is an understatement. And suffice it to say I was out appraisal fees after returning a ring that came with one of their certs.

Horrible, horrible company. I can't even begin to express my disgust with them, and the lousy piece of crap that sold me the ring. So much for anyone in nyc that decides to venture into the diamond district on 47th st., here's a warning- run as fast as you can if they break out with a UGL cert and tell you, "look at the worth!!, you're getting a great deal". Umm no, you're not.

 

[elle_chris]

Date: 8/1/2009 11:31:59 AM
Author: Big daddy 48
The reason being is your basically getting a piece of paper. Now in most of our eyes GIA is the most respected lab there is, correct? Now so you know when purchasing a colored diamond they could be enhanced after the report was made and sold as non enhanced. This is why I bring my stones to EGL. They give me an accurate rating and it dosn''t cost much to do.

The report would state the color. For instance, if you bought a a stone that GIA graded "light pink" and you''re seeing a vivid pink, I don''t think you need a pro to tell you it was enhanced.

 

[Ellen]

oh elle, tell us what you really think, I hate ambiguous posts!

 

[canuk-gal]

Date: 8/1/2009 11:31:59 AM
Author: Big daddy 48
The reason being is your basically getting a piece of paper. Now in most of our eyes GIA is the most respected lab there is, correct? Now so you know when purchasing a colored diamond they could be enhanced after the report was made and sold as non enhanced. This is why I bring my stones to EGL. They give me an accurate rating and it dosn''t cost much to do.

HI:

I can''t make any sense out of this.

Someone please edify!

cheers--Sharon

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/1/2009 12:05:46 PM
Author: Ellen
oh elle, tell us what you really think, I hate ambiguous posts!

LOL!

 

[elle_chris]

Date: 8/1/2009 12:05:46 PM
Author: Ellen
oh elle, tell us what you really think, I hate ambiguous posts!

Lol Ellen. If i used the words i really wanted to, i''d be banned

 

[Ellen]

Date: 8/1/2009 12:12:33 PM
Author: elle_chris
Lol Ellen. If i used the words i really wanted to, i''d be banned

 

[risingsun]

Date: 8/1/2009 12:07:18 PM
Author: canuk-gal

Date: 8/1/2009 11:31:59 AM
Author: Big daddy 48
The reason being is your basically getting a piece of paper. Now in most of our eyes GIA is the most respected lab there is, correct? Now so you know when purchasing a colored diamond they could be enhanced after the report was made and sold as non enhanced. This is why I bring my stones to EGL. They give me an accurate rating and it dosn''t cost much to do.

HI:

I can''t make any sense out of this.

Someone please edify!

cheers--Sharon

I''m right there with you, Sharon

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 8/1/2009 12:12:33 PM
Author: elle_chris

Date: 8/1/2009 12:05:46 PM
Author: Ellen
oh elle, tell us what you really think, I hate ambiguous posts!

Lol Ellen. If i used the words i really wanted to, i''d be banned

not if you use foreign language.

 

[Moh 10]

So when they named UGL they forgot the Y?

 

[Gypsy]

You know, Moh, I like you style. I just reported my suspicions to the mods. you are much more direct.

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 8/1/2009 8:16:43 PM
Author: Moh 10
So when they named UGL they forgot the Y?

Ok , that was priceless!!!

 

[Big daddy 48]

I am getting made fun of because I purchase enhanced diamonds? That makes no sense. Do the match. If you purchase a GIA 1.00 CT Round VS2 K Color or you purchase an enhanced round VS1 F-G color Same table,same sym, etc your going to spend the same exact money but your getting a nicer stone with the enhanced one. Everyone has their own opinions and I respect that but making fun of someone or reporting some one for they like is acting like a 12 year old! Maybe furnish me with advice on why not to purchase enhanced stones anymore,where to get a better value on a non enhanced stone, etc. I joined this site because I love diamonds. I own quite a few. I have colored as well as unique cuts. I thought it would be cool to join on and discuss and share thoughts but it seems like some of you act like little kids. I am an adult.

 

[Moh 10]

Sorry Big Daddy for having fun at your expense.

I'm not mainstream here either.
The largest group here likes stones at the eye clean clarity of SI1 and color near I, J and K.

I also own a few stones.
All are top cut, tip top cut, with color of E and F, and clarity between VVS1 and VS1.
All stones have AGS or GIA reports.
My most recent score was a fancy deep purplish-pink VVS1 emerald cut, natural color diamond with a GIA report.
For the price I paid for that tiny quarter-carat stone I could have gotten a 5000-pound clarity and color enhanced honker with NO lab report.
To each his own.

So I get ribbed and made to feel dumb occasionally for buying stones that are smaller than I could have gotten for the same price.
So what if you and I are not in the center of the pricescope bell curve?

We are both delighted with our purchases even though we both go against the majority preference here.

 

[Big daddy 48]

It''s ok pal. At least you can understand where I am coming from and what a good buy is! I could take a little abuse but I can give it as well As long as it''s all in healthy fun I am good with it. I am trying to figure out how to post pictures on here. Once I do I will show off a little. I don''t know if people on here are into watches but I am. I have a Cartier with 33.75 CTS of diamonds set in it, a Frank Muller with 19.65 CTS set, a Daytona with 3 CTS on the bezel and several more.

 

[D&T]

Date: 8/2/2009 12:16:47 AM
Author: Big daddy 48
It''s ok pal. At least you can understand where I am coming from and what a good buy is! I could take a little abuse but I can give it as well As long as it''s all in healthy fun I am good with it. I am trying to figure out how to post pictures on here. Once I do I will show off a little. I don''t know if people on here are into watches but I am. I have a Cartier with 33.75 CTS of diamonds set in it, a Frank Muller with 19.65 CTS set, a Daytona with 3 CTS on the bezel and several more.

you can post those in the jewelry section, many will visit to see those.

 

[Big daddy 48]

Ty DT, I will. I am just learning and getting to know the forums. I am uploaading some of my stones right now. I have been collecting for years.