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MichelleCarmen

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Need help. . .

With a RB solitaire pendant, what proportions are ideal? What table % and all other numbers should I be looking for? I know for the one I have now, the table (I feel) is too small and my dh thought that the diamond was smaller than my studs (which are the same size as the single diamond, but with a larger table %).

Thanks!
 
Date: 1/21/2010 3:52:54 PM
Author:MC
Need help. . .

With a RB solitaire pendant, what proportions are ideal? What table % and all other numbers should I be looking for? I know for the one I have now, the table (I feel) is too small and my dh thought that the diamond was smaller than my studs (which are the same size as the single diamond, but with a larger table %).

Thanks!
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Hi MC

You could go for a larger table size up to around 60% and slightly shallower crown and pavilion angles, look for those which score below 1 on the HCA but always check with Idealscope images. Also stones with larger tables or 60 60 stones which score between 1 and 2 on the HCA can also be fine for pendants. The shallower proportion combos can have extra brilliance and look large for the weight, but due to obstruction aren't always suitable as ring stones, obviously this isn't an issue in a pendant but these stones still need careful evaluation.

The chart in this link, HCA Usage Warnings goes into greater detail on what to look for.
 
Okay. The one I have is only 54 (lol!). It scores .5 on the HCA and does look great under the idealscope, however doesn''t have that "pop" look for a pendant (it would make a fabulous ring though). The stone I''m looking at right now is 56, so sounds like that also is too small of a table. . .it''s in my price range, but I''ve gotta try and be patient!

I''m going to set the stone in the Bellarina pendant *as long* as I can find a stone within the right price range. If I end up finding a stone closer to .70, then I''ll just use my four corners for now.

I''ll study the chart and try and make sense of it. lol!
 
Date: 1/21/2010 4:08:05 PM
Author: MC
Okay. The one I have is only 54 (lol!). It scores .5 on the HCA and does look great under the idealscope, however doesn''t have that ''pop'' look for a pendant (it would make a fabulous ring though). The stone I''m looking at right now is 56, so sounds like that also is too small of a table. . .it''s in my price range, but I''ve gotta try and be patient!

I''m going to set the stone in the Bellarina pendant *as long* as I can find a stone within the right price range. If I end up finding a stone closer to .70, then I''ll just use my four corners for now.

I''ll study the chart and try and make sense of it. lol!
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If you you inerpret pop as being "fire" rather than brilliance(brightness) than you want deeper and smaller table not more shallow. Pendant or not for fire you would want something in the FIC range. I''d be looking for shorter LGF and thicker fat arrows especially in <1ct stones as well.
 
Date: 1/21/2010 4:08:05 PM
Author: MC
Okay. The one I have is only 54 (lol!). It scores .5 on the HCA and does look great under the idealscope, however doesn't have that 'pop' look for a pendant (it would make a fabulous ring though). The stone I'm looking at right now is 56, so sounds like that also is too small of a table. . .it's in my price range, but I've gotta try and be patient!

I'm going to set the stone in the Bellarina pendant *as long* as I can find a stone within the right price range. If I end up finding a stone closer to .70, then I'll just use my four corners for now.

I'll study the chart and try and make sense of it. lol!
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Can you post the proportions of your existing diamond please MC? Then we can pin it down more as to what you are looking for. By ' pop' do you mean blingy brilliance rather than fire is what you want? If so, then a larger table with perhaps shallower proportions could fit the bill nicely for you.
 
Date: 1/21/2010 4:18:49 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
If you you inerpret pop as being ''fire'' rather than brilliance(brightness) than you want deeper and smaller table not more shallow. Pendant or not for fire you would want something in the FIC range. I''d be looking for shorter LGF and thicker fat arrows especially in <1ct stones as well.
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Yeah, I want dazzle but also for it to look as big as possible. The stone will for sure be less than 1 ct. More like around .60+ (and I can''t say about brightness because the stone I have is a small E color one. It just looks bright white and had fire when in the sun. . .I''ll be going down to an H (or maybe just a G) so a bit more warmth will shine through.
 
Date: 1/21/2010 4:29:34 PM
Author: MC


Date: 1/21/2010 4:18:49 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
If you you inerpret pop as being 'fire' rather than brilliance(brightness) than you want deeper and smaller table not more shallow. Pendant or not for fire you would want something in the FIC range. I'd be looking for shorter LGF and thicker fat arrows especially in <1ct stones as well.
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Yeah, I want dazzle but also for it to look as big as possible. The stone will for sure be less than 1 ct. More like around .60+ (and I can't say about brightness because the stone I have is a small E color one. It just looks bright white and had fire when in the sun. . .I'll be going down to an H (or maybe just a G) so a bit more warmth will shine through.
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MC, bear in mind if you want a fiery stone of fiery ideal cut proportions, these can look small for the weight if you want to try to maximize visual size, so it might not be the best choice for what you are looking for. What I would do in that case is look for a diamond with a larger table of around 57- 60% and try to keep crown and pavilion angles around 35 deg crown and 40.6- 40.8 pavilion and keep the depth between 60 - 62%. Look for ones with a thin to slightly thick/ medium girdle in order to keep the weight where you can see it.
 
Report: AGS
. Shape: Round Ideal Cut
. Carat: 0.414
. Depth %: 61.1
. Table %: 54.5
. Crown Angle: 34.6
. Crown %: 15.7
. Star : 55
. Pavilion Angle: 40.7
. Pavilion %: 42.7
. Lower Girdle %: 76
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 4.80-4.82X2.94
. Polish: Excellent
. Symmetry: Excellent
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible

Yes, I want more fire! My current stone is more on the white side than I expected. I'll be trading up through WF and will have to wait until after I send my current diamond back and I guess have them look at it (?) before finding the exact stone. So basically I need ideas that way I can hunt to and then post stones after WF gives me the thumbs up. Also, I'll call them. . .it's been about 2 years since I've shopped for a stone so I'm a bit rusty.

I've mentioned before that I'm kind of selfconscious about wearing major bling but I think something slightly larger than .60 will be a good size for my personality. . .
 
Date: 1/21/2010 4:37:26 PM
Author: MC
Report: AGS
. Shape: Round Ideal Cut
. Carat: 0.414
. Depth %: 61.1
. Table %: 54.5
. Crown Angle: 34.6
. Crown %: 15.7
. Star : 55
. Pavilion Angle: 40.7
. Pavilion %: 42.7
. Lower Girdle %: 76
. Girdle: Thin to Medium Faceted
. Measurements: 4.80-4.82X2.94
. Polish: Excellent
. Symmetry: Excellent
. Culet: Pointed
. Fluorescence: Negligible

Yes, I want more fire! My current stone is more on the white side than I expected. I'll be trading up through WF and will have to wait until after I send my current diamond back and I guess have them look at it (?) before finding the exact stone. So basically I need ideas that way I can hunt to and then post stones after WF gives me the thumbs up. Also, I'll call them. . .it's been about 2 years since I've shopped for a stone so I'm a bit rusty.

I've mentioned before that I'm kind of selfconscious about wearing major bling but I think something slightly larger than .60 will be a good size for my personality. . .
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Ok, its could be a bit of a trade off in that case, as a ' true' fiery ideal cut can sometimes look small for the weight due to these often having extra depth and weight hidden in the girdle and crown. Also these normally have small tables, generally a larger table can give a stone the illusion of looking larger but it also enhances brilliance or white light rather than fire. What I would do is tell WF exactly what you are looking for and see what they can come up with, they might well be able to suggest a new diamond which could suit you perfectly.

Your existing diamond has superb proportions by the way.
 
Here's the dimensions of my eng. diamond. The one my DH said looks bigger. (Keep in mind I bought this diamond in 1994 - long before PS - so I don't have all the numbers.)

GIA CERT
depth 60.1 %
table 57 %
girdle medium to slightly thick, faceted
culet very small
4.86 - 4.92 X 2.94 MM

.42 cts.
 
Date: 1/21/2010 4:44:11 PM
Author: MC
Here''s the dimensions of my eng. diamond. The one my DH said looks bigger. (Keep in mind I bought this diamond in 1994 - long before PS - so I don''t have all the numbers.)

GIA CERT
depth 60.1 %
table 57 %
girdle medium to slightly thick, faceted
culet very small
4.86 - 4.92 X 2.94 MM

.42 cts.
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Its a tiny bit bigger in the diameter and some can spot minuscule size differences in this type of size, I know I am sensitive to such size increases with direct comparison with these weights, so this could be what Hubby is noticing.
 
Date: 1/21/2010 4:41:23 PM
Author: Lorelei

Ok, its could be a bit of a trade off in that case, as a '' true'' fiery ideal cut can sometimes look small for the weight due to these often having extra depth and weight hidden in the girdle and crown. Also these normally have small tables, generally a larger table can give a stone the illusion of looking larger but it also enhances brilliance or white light rather than fire. What I would do is tell WF exactly what you are looking for and see what they can come up with, they might well be able to suggest a new diamond which could suit you perfectly.

Your existing diamond has superb proportions by the way.
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Thanks for the compliment. I wish I could keep it for another project - lol!
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Date: 1/21/2010 4:48:20 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 1/21/2010 4:44:11 PM
Author: MC
Here''s the dimensions of my eng. diamond. The one my DH said looks bigger. (Keep in mind I bought this diamond in 1994 - long before PS - so I don''t have all the numbers.)

GIA CERT
depth 60.1 %
table 57 %
girdle medium to slightly thick, faceted
culet very small
4.86 - 4.92 X 2.94 MM

.42 cts.
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Its a tiny bit bigger in the diameter and some can spot minuscule size differences in this type of size, I know I am sensitive to such size increases with direct comparison with these weights, so this could be what Hubby is noticing.
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The prongs are more delicate on the pendant too. Yes, small details really stand out, don''t they? Seems like the bellerina setting will make the pendant look huge and improve appearance.
 
Date: 1/21/2010 4:52:02 PM
Author: MC

Date: 1/21/2010 4:48:20 PM
Author: Lorelei


Date: 1/21/2010 4:44:11 PM
Author: MC
Here''s the dimensions of my eng. diamond. The one my DH said looks bigger. (Keep in mind I bought this diamond in 1994 - long before PS - so I don''t have all the numbers.)

GIA CERT
depth 60.1 %
table 57 %
girdle medium to slightly thick, faceted
culet very small
4.86 - 4.92 X 2.94 MM

.42 cts.
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Its a tiny bit bigger in the diameter and some can spot minuscule size differences in this type of size, I know I am sensitive to such size increases with direct comparison with these weights, so this could be what Hubby is noticing.
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The prongs are more delicate on the pendant too. Yes, small details really stand out, don''t they? Seems like the bellerina setting will make the pendant look huge and improve appearance.
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I have heard the Bellerina does make stones look huge, I can''t wait to see it when its done! Definitely the small details stand out, to me even small size increases in this size/ weight range can be quite noticeable.
 
Date: 1/21/2010 4:59:30 PM
Author: Lorelei

I have heard the Bellerina does make stones look huge, I can''t wait to see it when its done! Definitely the small details stand out, to me even small size increases in this size/ weight range can be quite noticeable.
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Thanks again for your help. I''m going to bookmark this thread for reference!
 
Date: 1/22/2010 6:26:42 AM
Author: Lorelei

You are most welcome, just ask if you need any more help!

I know, Belle''s does look huge! Thats a nice benefit of the Bellerina!
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Yeah, now I''m absolutely sure it''s what I''m going to get! I may even go down in size to get a higher color and a platinum chain because I''m afraid of going too big. lol

My son approves of the pendant too. He says it looks like a saw.
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He''s all boy.
 
Date: 1/22/2010 11:50:11 AM
Author: MC

Date: 1/22/2010 6:26:42 AM
Author: Lorelei

You are most welcome, just ask if you need any more help!

I know, Belle''s does look huge! Thats a nice benefit of the Bellerina!
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Yeah, now I''m absolutely sure it''s what I''m going to get! I may even go down in size to get a higher color and a platinum chain because I''m afraid of going too big. lol

My son approves of the pendant too. He says it looks like a saw.
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He''s all boy.
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Bless him!!!
 
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