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anne_h

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I was so annoyed, I had to submit my first BBB complaint.

It''s regarding a vintage Rolex, with an unusual (to me) graduated Jubilee-type bracelet. No pins - links have to be soldered to be removed. I could tell the shop did not see this model very often (most don''t probably). Hence my concern. Anyways, read on...

Here is the BBB complaint I submitted:

"I have an older, uncommon Rolex watch (not purchased there) that needed to be sized. I first went in Oct 06 2008 to ask if Gambard''s could do the work. I spoke to a larger, older man (presumably the owner or manager) who examined the watch and said they could size it and quoted $40.00. I had never used this business before, and wasn''t sure yet where I wanted the work done, so I thanked him for the quote and left. The following week, I decided to go ahead and have Gambard''s do the sizing. I phoned them on Oct 15 2008 to describe the watch and confirm again they could size it. I spoke again to the same man (recognized the voice), and he said yes, they could do it. So I brought the watch in the same day. The same older large man looked at the watch and said it would be harder than he initially thought and re-quoted $60.00 for the sizing. I agreed. Because I cared a great deal about the watch and sensed my watch was somewhat unfamiliar to them, I asked a few questions about how they would size it. The man answered some of my questions and mentioned that some damage would occur to the removed links. I was concerned, but agreed. Being concerned, I also asked a few more questions. I sensed the man was growing impatient with me trying to clarify what would happen to my watch. But I didn''t yet feel clear on exactly what they would do or how the watch might be impacted, so I followed-up with more questions about how they would specifically size it. By that time, our conversation had lasted several minutes (we were alone, no other customers), and I could tell the man was getting annoyed. At that point, I felt he could not provide me with clarity about what specifically would be done to my watch, so I asked if we could speak directly to the person who would do the work. He then said no, because *he* would be doing the work. Finally, his outward demeanor became annoyed and he said "I won''t do this work, I don''t have time for it". Which to me was a rude surprise, but I thanked him for letting me know. I then left.

The entire time, I feel I retained my composure and was polite. I can understand a company refusing to do work, but I feel this man refused (after initially agreeing) solely because he did not like that I was (politely) asking questions about the work and my watch. I believe he did not know for sure how he/they would size the watch, and was annoyed that I was asking for that information. But I only wanted to fully understand what would be done, and if my watch could get damaged in any way. The way the man handled himself and the situation with me as his potential customer was poor.

This store is an authorized Rolex dealer, I actually found it via Rolex''s official site. If I could report this bad service directly to Rolex, I would. I am a young professional, and am likely to purchase more Rolex watches and/or other jewelry in my lifetime. Obviously, it will not be from this person."

Not in my BBB complaint, but as a side note... I heard the man tell another customer (that left before me) that if he wanted a receipt, he (the man) would have to charge him sales tax. To me, that implies provincial and federal sales tax evasion. Not sure yet if I should do anything about that...

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I can understand why you had doubts about using this company for your adjustment. At least you walked away. I would have probably followed up with Rolex rather than the BBB. If he is an authorised retailer it doesn't mean he is authorised for repairs.

The store I used to work in used to send repairs direct to Rolex. Especially the difficult ones. It was quite expensive to do so. It seems a bit inexpensive for him to charge you $40-$60.
 

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Thanks Maisie. BTW, it was only for bracelet sizing. No touching the movement.

My first impulse was to complain to Rolex, but I couldn''t find any contact info on their website (try it, lol). So next best was BBB.

I am not upset that they ultimately said no, or even that they are doing repairs "unauthorized". It was just how rude and abrupt he was about it.

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Frankly, I think you probably dodged a bullet here. I am betting he would have botched the job. Be thankful he didn''t touch it.
 

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Date: 10/15/2008 5:26:56 PM
Author: anne_h
Thanks Maisie. BTW, it was only for bracelet sizing. No touching the movement.

My first impulse was to complain to Rolex, but I couldn't find any contact info on their website (try it, lol). So next best was BBB.

I am not upset that they ultimately said no, or even that they are doing repairs 'unauthorized'. It was just how rude and abrupt he was about it.

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I would insist on Rolex doing the bracelet adjustment for you. It sounds like they should be the ones to do it.

There is an official Rolex store in New York. You might be able to complain to them...



(212) 397-9000
700 Fifth Ave.
New York, NY 10019

Here is the address for Rolex headquarters...

Rolex



Rue Francois-Dussaud 3-5-7
CH-1211 Geneva, 26, Switzerland
 

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Thanks for that. :)

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(And yes, I am glad in the end they are not touching it...something odd about that place. Although, my gemmologist, whom thus far I have always been able to trust and respect said they know what they are doing (??) Who knows... Their service is awful anyways.)
 

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I honestly think you did the right thing. If you had a bad feeling it was best you just took your precious watch and left. I would have done exactly the same.

I hope you get it sorted out soon... Any chance of seeing a picture of it?
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I agree with the others, consider it a blessing!
 

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Date: 10/15/2008 10:24:13 PM
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I agree with the others, consider it a blessing!
I AGREE ...A huge blessing in disguise!...so many red flags...the price going up every time he handled the watch is an old scam and when this happens then people should walk away...This self ordained watch expert was scamming you...these older bracelets can be sized if the person has experiance...it takes two seconds to tell if its a yes or a no...and $40.00 to size any linked watch is high way robbery....let alone $60.00....take it to the Rolex repair and talk with them.
 

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Thanks everyone,

Jewelerman - Did you see the issue about the links requiring soldering to detach and reattach? No pins. I think this is what is causing the problem.

I also contacted the person I bought the watch from, who said that he''s not surprised some people (even Rolex dealers) refused to work on it. He has offered for his usual specialist to do it for free. But this means shipping back to the US, which I''d prefer to avoid.

There are several other Rolex ADs in Montreal; I will call them and see if they can do it.

Everyone - I realize that "Authorized Rolex Dealer" (as per Rolex''s official website) does *not* mean the place is also authorized to do Rolex repairs. But where can I find the list of "Authorized Rolex Repair Centers" (or whatnot)? I can''t find a tool for that on the Rolex website.

Maisie - Attached is a pic, just for you! :) It''s from the seller''s original listing. The watch is supercute in person, and so far it seems to be authentic, so fingers crossed!

BTW, for anyone - I have not been able to wear the watch yet (doh!!). Yesterday, I finally set the correct time, and wore it (carefully, it''s too large) for a few hours (say, 3pm - 6pm). I did not put it on today, but carried it around with me in my purse (it''s safely wrapped up). Today at 12pm, I checked the watch, and the time was wrong. Should I be worried?? I am assuming that I did not wear the watch long enough for it to store enough energy to keep time all through the night? Yikes!! :)
 

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Oops, sorry, photo.

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Good news, I figured out how to wind the watch (wow, it''s so quiet!), and have worn it a little more, and so far it is keeping great time. The date is wrong though, and seems to not be changing quite daily, will have to figure out how to correct that later.

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I love your watch!!! I wish I had one!!!
 

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Date: 10/16/2008 12:46:44 PM
Author: anne_h
Oops, sorry, photo.
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Thanks Maisie and Dana. :)

Being my first Rolex... I''ve now learned how to wind it, set the time and set the date, and so far it''s working like a dream. I''m wearing it too-large (pushed up my arm), but will still need to get it sized down at some point.

Color me happy for now...

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I am sorry you had a poor experience.

I cannot fathom why vendors are in business if it taxes them so to deal with the public.

I know many shops that would entirely prefer if customers could cautiously approach their premises, bundle a pile of cash into a plain brown envelope and quietly slide it through the letter box before stepping away silently never to darken the door again. If you do not want to deal with the public and legitimate enquiring minds then do not set up a business - especially a specialist business. Oh Grr... it makes me so angry!
 

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Sorry folks but I feel I must jump in...I own two rolexs, and am 2nd generation rolex wearer.
I have been to this store many times and get all my servicing done there. Gambard is the ONLY store to actually do repairs
on site instead of risking the shipping to another location! They are the only ones with qualified rolex technicians! The man you mention is the owner. Has been for over 25 years. If they had bad service, do you really think they would still be opened considering their main source of income is Rolex?? I have called rolex a few times to get information and they always recommend me going back to Gambard. Sometimes I have difficulties because the man is very french but we always come to an understanding. On a side note....they have even repaired things for free for me. I get my plexi polished for free there and anytime they replace parts, they always give me the original parts.
I would never buy a rolex from anywhere else. I have even referred some american friends to buy there as it is cheaper even after they pay duty.
I have been in that store and always see famous people there, its weird. Its like all the hockey players come to that store when they are in town.

Buying/owning a rolex is like a ferrari. Great piece of engineering but needs great caring/fine tuning. I have had my first rolex for 20 yrs and it is as good as new and is even worth the same amount. My son is only 4, but in 14 more years, it will be his as it was my dads!
 
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