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Teague47

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Hey folks,

I have a few questions and where else would I go! First, why is B2C Jewels significantly cheaper than any other Pricescope vendor? When doing a search for diamonds B2C always has a list of hundreds of diamonds cheaper than the next vendor. I need this answered first to know if there are any red flags before proceeding with them. (I can't believe how much cheaper it is than local shops)

Also, I'm looking at the yellow gold twisted rope look for my future bride. I was really torn between just the simple solitaire twisted rope and the split shank solitaire twisted rope (like WOOBUG). B2C actually has the 'non split shank' one! However, I want it to be very dainty and thin. The rope setting that B2C carries is 2.5 mm, this just seems big to me because I noticed other settings that were only 2 mm.

Thanks so much. You guys are always so helpful and I'm thankful I can get good advice before making a silly uneducated decision.

Happy Thanksgiving!,
Teague
 
Also, is there any practical advice for dealing with an online vendor. This diamond is in my price range but it's an SI2, so I'd like to know how visible the inclusion is. Tell me what you think. Also, the twisted rope setting I'm looking at has 4 prongs, would it be possible to talk with B2C to get a 6 prong head?

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3235286-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI2-Clarity.aspx?sku=3235286&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com


If you see better diamonds around that price range. PLEASE let me know.

Happy Thanksgiving!
 
Hi Teague,

Happy Thanksgiving!!

Coming to your question on B2C Jewels...Most of these online jewelers around the world work on the same principle. They mostly do not have a store but they can still give genuine and quality products at a cheaper price than a local jeweler only because they don't have the expenses of running a store. After all it is a competitive world and everyone wants to make a place for themselves.

You gotta be aware of your purchases and where you are doing it from..read a lot about this on PS as it is a very common question in every buyers mind. Read more on return policies and shipping terms etc..

Coming to the diamond you have posted is priced OK for its weight and clarity, however I would look for a better option may be an SI1.

I found these two diamonds on b2c website.

1) http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3161397-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

2) http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3324175-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI1-clarity.aspx

I know these are somewhat off the range, but if you call up the customer service and let them know you come from pricesopce they will give you further discount on the price.

Goodluck :twirl:
 
Hi

Prices with online stores are great but some online stores are aggressive in their pricing, as consumer its nice to have the advantage
of better price on the product, B2C Jewels have been their from quiet some time now & their Diamond prices are awesome, I believe they
are aggressive in their pricing to gain more customers which is fair I like
their 'Try for Free" option where in you can buy the look alike setting for only $1 which they call replica, they will mail you,
only if you like that can you buy the finish product.


I See B2C Jewels have A+ grading from Better Business Bureau, which is great, they also have 30 days return policy and also
they cover shipping both ways, which is great, I also see they offer Upgrade for life time on loose diamonds and give Free
Appraisal.

They have been in business from long time & I believe they are good, as far the 6 prongs on the setting, I think any Jeweler
can fix that, I am sure if you call the Customer Service, they should be able to get it done.
 
Hi Teague!

I have seen this is not the case for the stone you posted, but B2C also lists stones certified by EGL, HRD, etc., which can partly explain why some of their stones have lower prices. in any case, I was also surprised by some apparently good deals. If you live in the US and returning a stone is not too much of an issue (consider to leave some time room before your proposal!!), then you can check the quality of the stone yourself once you get it, and B2C should be a very nice option!

Best,

d.
 
Firstly, I wanted to congratulate you on doing your best to find a great ring for your gal.
I am wondering if you can ask for BC Jewels to email you a copy of the certificate associated with the diamond?
Also, are you able to form a relationship with a sales assistant online and ask them to personally inspect the diamond for you?

There are many eyeclean SI2 diamonds about, I think you are on the right track in pursuing this level of clarity if you are after the most impressive diamond for your girl. Eyeclean SI diamonds represent great value! Many inclusions are not visible. And there is little or no different presentation / viewing wise in comparison with higher clarities in most consumer situations.

The colour you have chosen is also a good choice for this time in your life.

In my view, a girl will appreciate two things most about her diamond - cut and size.

There are two little issues I would be thinking further about regarding this diamond: is the cut the best you can find? Can the BC rep send an ideal scope of the stone? How did it check out on the PS tools? (once you have the cert, you could find out.)

Also, I would seriously be shopping for a stone that comes with an upgrade policy. In fact, as an aspirational diamond lover, i would never buy a diamond without an upgrade policy! I would seriously consider this, as a huge favour to your gf.

Could even be worth dropping back to a .80 (as an example) to achieve an upgrade policy, in my view.

I am based in Australia, so I am absolutely no help when it comes to pointing you to suitable vendors that have a great upgrade policy, unfortunately.

Your girl is lucky to have such a considerate intended.

kind regards and all the very best for your future,
Lisa
 
Thank you folks! I have read up on all their policies and I do feel comfortable working with them. They have a return policy an upgrade policy they seem to have good reviews and I really wish I could support a local shop but it really comes down to getting the best I possibly can for my lady! Curious, how much of a pricescope discount will I get? This will help me budget correctly. And also, I am going to get in touch with a sales associate and start narrowing to a few diamonds. I don't want to pretend to know all the best table % and depth % and all that so I'm going to rely on you guys to help me out! I will post as much info as possible on a few diamonds when I get to that point. Any and all help is so much appreciated you have no idea!

Also, bonus question. Do you think a 6 prong head is too much for a .8 to .9 diamond? I've heard her mention 4 prongs just tends to square the appearance up.

Blessings!
 
The thing is, B2C does not provide images, ASET, Idealscopes, DNAScan, etc. for their stones. You have to rely on their gemologist to tell you whether or not the diamond is eye clean, which leads me to believe that these stones are not even in house, so how would they know anything about the stone? James Allen also has competitive prices and they offer more services to help you make an informed choice.

I would never buy an SI2 without pics, ASET, etc. It just may not be eye clean. But, you can always buy it and see for yourself since they have a nice return policy. If you think it's acceptable, send it back to have it set or have a local jeweler set your stone (make sure you have insurance first).
 
If I get in touch with them do you think they would send me pictures? Or at least be very honest with me on what would be eye clean? Also, is it safe to say that a GIA SI1 is usually eye clean?
 
Teague47|1353773645|3314161 said:
If I get in touch with them do you think they would send me pictures? Or at least be very honest with me on what would be eye clean? Also, is it safe to say that a GIA SI1 is usually eye clean?
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You'll need more than pictures. See if you can get ASET too. You'll also need to plug the numbers into the HCA tool here on PS to see what the stone is rated. SI2 can be tricky...it's a really fine line. It also depends on where the inclusions are, if they are on the table or along the edge where the inclusion could be hidden by a prong. But, if B2C does not have the stone in house, they are telling you the appearance of the stone based on what the broker tells them (and they may be in a different country). So, you don't really know until you get the stone.
 
This is also the case with BlueNile. But, you have some security with the return policy with both of the vendors that have "virtual stones." If you want to go with B2C that is fine, just come back here with the specs.
 
Ok, great. I certainly will come back with the specs. When I do, just be gentle on me... My budget is only 3k so I'm just looking for the best bang for bang.
 
Ok, I've contacted B2C and am waiting for a list of diamond specs to return, should be here by tomorrow. In the meantime, could I get a few opinions on this diamond....

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3023002-0.84-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI2-Clarity.aspx?sku=3023002&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

It's 60% table and 60% depth. I know it's a large table, but I plugged the specs into the HCA and it got a 1.7 or Excellent. I'm most intrigued by this because I think it could be a great value, much cheaper than say a .9 carot diamond with the same spread. I've read about the 60/60 diamond and the crown angle (34) and pavillion angle (40.8) seem to fit into the small zone of 60/60 diamonds that look truly good.... but heck, I dunno what I'm talking about! Oh, and this is assuming that the SI2 clarity will come back eye clean, if it's not I won't consider it.....

Thoughts? Good value? Or positively stay away from a table that big? Also, any insight on the type of Pricescope discount I'll get?

Blessings!
 
I know I'm getting annoying and nobody has replied, but please thoughts on these diamonds as well....

This one is by far the biggest spread I've seen that could possible be in price range depending on discount, it scored a 1.0 on HCA!

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3337878-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI2-Clarity.aspx?sku=3337878&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com




And this one scored a HCA 1.4, it's table/depth % also fit more into what I've read makes a good diamond....

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3161397-0.90-carat-Round-diamond-I-color-SI1-Clarity.aspx?sku=3161397&utm_source=pricescope.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pricescope.com

Please, please chime in on the 3 I've posted. Thanks!
 
Hi, I think you should eliminate #3 - "very thin" in the girdle to start..I wouldn't like that personally.
#1 and #2 make sure they are eye-clean. If yes, then I would probably go for the bigger one the .90(#2)!
 
Teague47|1353769835|3314056 said:
Also, bonus question. Do you think a 6 prong head is too much for a .8 to .9 diamond? I've heard her mention 4 prongs just tends to square the appearance up.
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Personally, I love six prongs over four. It's an elegant and secure setting. :)
 
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