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cmelb

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What are your thoughts of this Asscher, all feedback welcomed. Note has a 55% Table...

Carat weight: 0.72
Cut: Ideal
Color: D
Clarity: VS2
Certificate: GIA

Depth: 67.3%
Table: 55%
Polish: Excellent - Ideal
Symmetry: Excellent - Ideal
Girdle: Slightly thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 5.05*5.05*3.40
Ratio: 1.00

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WEEEPING its so gorgeous. C''mon now ... what could be wrong with THAT!!!

I''ll have to cyber-slap/tickle Stmdr if he has a bad word to type about it.
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I ditto deco. It''s just gorgeous. GORGEOUS!!!!!!!

Salivating on the keyboard again.
 
I think it''s beautiful from what I see here. Nice job.
 
Date: 5/1/2006 7:41:39 PM
Author: decodelighted
WEEEPING its so gorgeous. C''mon now ... what could be wrong with THAT!!!


I''ll have to cyber-slap/tickle Stmdr if he has a bad word to type about it.
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hhhmmmmmmm that might be fun...
but my wifey2b wouldnt like it and she is a good shot with a 357mag.

The asscher looks good to me.
 
Thank you to all that have replied. Just a question strmrdr.

I know you have seen alot of Asscher Diamonds and I would like to know "does a Asscher with a 55% table appear alot darker then a Asscher that has a table of 60-65%"??

Also what can you tell me about the Asscher just from looking at the picture.

Just note: that the picture was taken with a regular digital camera, not a diamond camera, and these people are not photographers so there are a few dust spots and threads.
 
A - nice well proportioned windmills

B - transition of windmills to corner could be better but its real common for them to be like this. It would require wider cut corners to do so. Its a trade off to get wide windmills with the smaller cut corners. Done well its not a downgrade just a comment unless it kills the center patterns.

C - outer patterns very good tilt is apparent. perfection in this area is hard to find these are very good.

D - multi-step inner pattern greatly affected by the tilt.

Bottom line kicken asscher :}

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"does a Asscher with a 55% table appear alot darker then a Asscher that has a table of 60-65%" Not as a rule no, It could appear brighter.
The rest of the cut will have a greater effect.
Iv seen in person a kicken asscher with around a 45% table that rocked and wasnt dark at all.
 
Your to good, justone last question "what do you mean by Kitchen Asscher" what is a kicken asscher??
 
lol kicken means it is a great storm-worthy asscher!
 
If Storm says it''s kicken then it has his seal of approval. He helped me find mine, and boy did he do a great job. He''s saying it''s Storm worthy and he''s tough on these stones. So that means a lot!!! I love this stone, it''s gorgeous!! Now hurry up and buy it. How will you have it set???
 

If someone could answer this that would be greatly appreciated.


I found a Asscher that comes close to the spec''s of the one above, this Asscher diamond is from LaurenThePartier who I''m sure everyone has seen her beautiful Asscher diamond.


LaurenThePartier Spec''s of her Asscher Diamond.
Report: GIA
Shape: Asscher
Carat: 0.71
Color: G
Clarity: VVS2
Depth: 67.5
Table: 57
Girdle: TK
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent
Culet: None
Fluorescence: No
Measurements: 4.95-4.95X3.34
Length/Width: 1.00

Now I have attached a picture showing LaurenThePartier Gorgeous Ring.
My question is will the my Asscher that is pictured above at the start of this thread look as White as LaurenThePartier Asscher pictured below. As there are alot of dark areas in the Asscher that I have chosen or is that just how the picture was taken.



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Beautiful stone! I love the windmills on that rock!

Strmrdr -- one day, probably about 15 years from now, ugh -- I''m going to come knocking on your Pricescope door to harass you for asscher info. Is there anything you DON''T know about asschers?
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Date: 5/2/2006 2:01:44 AM
Author: cmelb

If someone could answer this that would be greatly appreciated.



I found a Asscher that comes close to the spec''s of the one above, this Asscher diamond is from LaurenThePartier who I''m sure everyone has seen her beautiful Asscher diamond.



LaurenThePartier Spec''s of her Asscher Diamond.

Report: GIA

Shape: Asscher

Carat: 0.71

Color: G

Clarity: VVS2

Depth: 67.5

Table: 57

Girdle: TK

Polish: Excellent

Symmetry: Excellent

Culet: None

Fluorescence: No

Measurements: 4.95-4.95X3.34

Length/Width: 1.00


Now I have attached a picture showing LaurenThePartier Gorgeous Ring.

My question is will the my Asscher that is pictured above at the start of this thread look as White as LaurenThePartier Asscher pictured below. As there are alot of dark areas in the Asscher that I have chosen or is that just how the picture was taken.


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From the same angle it sure would.
Its the photo, the dark areas in the proper places are a good thing.
It provides the patterns that make an asscher.
The key is them being in the right place.
This one has it.
The one your looking at is a style that has less dark areas than some styles.
The lighting in that picture is very flat, great for seeing the patterns but not very real world.
The kewl thing is that the patterns are the key to an asscher so its a good picture to judge them from but not a great picture to see how it will look on the finger most of the time.
Hope that makes sense :}

imho have it sent to you unmounted if your unsure and make sure it makes your heart go pitter patter and if it dont then return it, if it does then have it mounted and wear it happily ever after.
 
So in real world under normal lighting or not and when viewing this particular Asscher diamond from any angle would I see these dark areas as shown in the above picture??

I had a look at her ring with that Asscher its nice.

When I was viewing the Asscher diamonds yesterday at the jewellers they had tables of 68-70% and didnt matter which angle I viewed the Asscher from I couldnt see any dark areas. And I was told then by the jeweller if I go below Table 60% I will start to see alot of dark areas. He didnt have any Asschers there with him that had tables of below 60% to show me this.
 
Date: 5/2/2006 2:01:44 AM
Author: cmelb
My question is will the my Asscher that is pictured above at the start of this thread look as White as LaurenThePartier Asscher pictured below. As there are alot of dark areas in the Asscher that I have chosen or is that just how the picture was taken.
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I sense you''re stressing out about a bald-faced lie (or... perhaps just misinformation) a jeweler told you about Asschers with 55% tables being "dark" and now you''re asking a bunch of questions from every conceivable angle to prove what you already suspect -- that THE JEWELER WAS FULL OF IT. (just my opinion!) Note: that same jeweler had a case full of 70% tables he was trying to sell, correct??
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As to the pix ... Lauren''s gorgeous rock might actually appear *darker* than yours will because hers is bezel set, which does block a teensy bit of light getting into the stone (if I''m correct).

As Stmdr mentioned - you WANT/NEED some dark areas/contrast in Asschers or else you can''t perceive the PATTERN that "makes" the stone optically so interesting. Asschers are just so DIFFERENT. You need to hold one in your hands and play with it. They don''t use light like round brilliants or other cuts. They''re prism like -- hall of mirrors -- mile deep --- "wet" looking.

Think of well-cut Asschers as looking at a black & white photo ... with depth and contrast VERSUS shallow cut "brighter" "whiter" "spreadier" 70% table Asschers -- those look like a faded Xerox of the photo. Yes, PALER ... but blurrier & not as impactful overall. Make sense? (Laymen Asscher lover talking - NOT an expert!)
 
hmmmmmmm im at a loss on how to respond Iv answered the question multiple times.
Go out and find some to look at and/or have this one sent to you for inspection.
 
New AGS light performance analysis for Square stones is coming soon.


At the AGS conclave last week it was announced that AGS will begin to do light performance reports similar to those of the rounds and princess cut stones.

Those of us with the AGS PGS software, will be able to report significantly detail information and report the estimated AGS new grading for all the stones.

The PGS software is rather amazing, and uses a very advanced ray tracing engine to determine the light performance.

I''ll be offering this option now for rounds and princesses and for emerald cuts and square cut stones, as soon as the updated software is distributed.

Rockdoc
 
I think the stones looks great! I wouldn''t be terribly bothered by the darkness of the non-porfessional picture. Based on stats and even on the picture youcan see the depth is there and with regularly occuring light I bet it would dazzle great. Good luck making a decison. It can be a very task!
 

I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THERE TIME AND FEEDBACK. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT IM ONLY LEARNING.


Here is the SARIN Report that I just got.



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I''m only new here so I''m no Asscher expert, I have been looking for a Asscher like yourself and all I can say its tuff and not easy.


I''ve had a few Sarin Reports sent to me and the one you posted above isn''t the full Sarin report either, there is allot missing.
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Thats all I get sent to me regarding the Sarin Report, I know that there is alot missing. "Not sure why I wasnt sent the full Sarin Report"
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I have seen alot of Asscher diamonds pictures on these forums that where taken with a standard digital camera's and looked alot better then the one pictured above, by what I mean is that they where no were near as dark as the one that was sent to me.

This is a good nice Asscher with no dark areas and this is what Im looking for.

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Could anyone comment on the above partial Sarin Report Pavilion Angle & Crown Angle.
Please....
 
Date: 5/3/2006 9:32:30 PM
Author: cmelb
Could anyone comment on the above partial Sarin Report Pavilion Angle & Crown Angle.

Please....
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dont mean nothin, sarin doesnt work well enough on asschers to be usefull.
The only useful info is the crown height which is good.
 
If you go to Goodoldgold.com and look at there Sarin reports you see that the Pavilion angle decreases from the girdle to the Culet.

This Asscher in the centre of the Pavilion has a 52.3deg and at the top of the pavilion its 42deg. And the same with the crown angle it has a higher deg in angle in the centre.
 
I like the look of the first asscher better.
 
Date: 5/3/2006 10:31:13 PM
Author: Matatora
I like the look of the first asscher better.
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me too
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Holy moly... I feel like we''re talking Spanish or something. The first Asscher IS BEAUTIFUL. It is what an Asscher SHOULD look like. It is very much worth calling in to look at. EVERYONE IS TELLING YOU THAT. Not sure why you keep asking our opinion if you''re not gonna listen???

IMO ....you absolutely 100% cannot tell about whether an Asscher IS or ISN''T right for you unless you see it in person. Comparing those two pictures isn''t fair really. They''re taken under very different lighting conditions with different types of cameras. And you''re not buying a picture. She won''t be wearing THE PICTURE around on her finger.

It seems like you might not have seen enough Asschers in person to understand how they behave. Ones without dark areas will look washed out and won''t show the very pattern you''re PAYING for. You might as well set a square piece of glass & use that. That''s plenty "bright" with no dark areas. But not something most of us would want.

I know you''re just learning - but you don''t seem TO BE learning. Just asking the same questions lots of different ways & hoping for a different answer.
 
Just an uneducated asscher opinion but. . . .
The first pic you had looked stunning
The last asscher pic you had that you liked b/c of the lack of dark spots I hated the windmills, they looked too fat and then as the got to the center it looked like they got pinched in. Not smooth at all more; like an overwieght windmill that has a belt on too tight in the middle.

Anyways thoose are my thoughts.'



-Dave

 
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