Article on Trump voters

[liaerfbv]

I've really been thinking a lot this afternoon about the "murder is illegal in all states" argument, and I'm wondering if it comes from a place where true discrimination hasn't been witnessed. I lived my whole life south of the Mason Dixon line until last year, and I was raised by WWC parents in WWC rural areas. Until you first hand witness how UNwelcome gay people are, black people are, anyone really who is "different", until you LIVE IT - you don't understand what I'm saying that it isn't enough that "murder" is illegal. Gay people are TARGETED. Straight people are TARGETED just for "looking gay." Black kids get shot for walking around in their own neighborhoods. People yell at Latinos in the grocery store to "speak English!" Are those people *******s? Yes. It doesn't change the fact that people are targeted for these things and brushing it off with a "well that's already illegal" is extremely demeaning to the experience that these people have to live everyday. How can you tie a dignified life to a specific state in our union? It doesn't make any sense to me. If you are citizen here, you deserve to live with dignity and without fear. Across the board. Not because you can "afford" to live in a state that deigns to grant you human rights.

 

[redwood66]

The point is that discrimination, murder and hate crimes are already against the law, both state and federal. What more can government do for people? Say "No, we really really mean it" ? I am not trying to be a jerk but you cannot legislate the human heart into not being an a-hole. An a-hole is going to be an a-hole no matter what until they decide not to be one.

 

[liaerfbv]

I'm not trying to be a jerk either, but those laws aren't in place federally. Less than half of states protect gay people from workplace or housing discrimination. This administration just rolled back federal protection for trans kids. We have an attorney general with a known bias against black people, who wants to keep archaic and unsuccessful anti-drug legislation and punitive sentences in place that are known to unfairly target black communities. It's just overwhelmingly unfair that it's easier to live as a minority or "other" in some states than others. That's why I think we need federal protections in place. Is is a perfect solution? Of course not. People will always be *******s. But the same argument could be made about any progressive policies that challenges the status quo, and that isn't a reason not to attempt to give ALL citizens a level playing field.

 

[Matata]

This is the kind of stuff I fear. Who is interfering with whom? I bolded the sentence below.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...4b034684b0a8f76?3yr&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

WASHINGTON ― Planned Parenthood announced Thursday that it will be forced to close four health centers in Iowa because of a new state law that prevents Medicaid patients from seeking health care at the family planning provider.

The four clinics in Sioux City, Burlington, Keokuk and the Quad Cities, which collectively provide health care to almost 15,000 patients a year in Iowa, will be shutting down in June because they cannot afford to operate without public family planning funds. Planned Parenthood said three of those four clinics are in counties with relatively high rates of chlamydia, and the Burlington and Keokuk clinics are in rural areas where women will now have to drive over an hour to reach the nearest family planning provider.

“I am concerned about the health and well-being of the people in Iowa who now can no longer turn to their trusted health care provider,” said Dr. Raegan McDonald-Mosley, chief medical officer at Planned Parenthood. “What is happening in Iowa is what we could see across the country if Congress passes this dangerous law to defund Planned Parenthood. This is hardest on people who already face barriers to accessing health care — especially people of color, young people, people with low to moderate incomes, and people who live in rural areas.”

Gov. Terry Branstad (R) signed a budget bill last week that rejects $3 million in federal Medicaid funding for family planning and instead establishes a state-run family planning program that excludes organizations such as Planned Parenthood that provide abortions. Planned Parenthood of the Heartland had been serving about 30 percent of the 12,000 patients in Iowa who accessed family planning through Medicaid, so those patients will now have to look elsewhere for birth control, Pap smears and sexually transmitted infection screenings.

Texas passed a similar law in 2011 that had devastating consequences for low-income women in the state. Republicans slashed the state’s family planning budget in order to defund Planned Parenthood, forcing 31 clinics to close and reducing access to long-acting contraceptives in the state by about a third. As a result, there was a 27 percent increase in births among women who had previously relied on Planned Parenthood for family planning.

Republican lawmakers in Iowa said there are other health providers besides Planned Parenthood that can meet women’s needs. State Sen. Amy Sinclair (R) said Iowa would still provide health care “in a way that is balanced with the needs and the concerns and the conscientious objections of those taxpayers that we represent who frankly are offended to their very soul by the intentional and unnecessary termination of the life of another human being.”

But other health care providers in the state are nervous about having to absorb all of Planned Parenthood’s patients.

“They’re assuming we’re the alternative,” Ted Boesen, CEO of the Iowa Primary Care Association, a nonprofit network of clinics, cautiously told The Atlantic. “But we’re waiting to see what kind of a scale it is.”

 

[Tekate]

Do you mean that say transgender people won't be able to live in a place in the USA because a state will ban them?

Parking your car Red? how many rules are there about where to park your car.. most rules I can think of are places where people who have health problems park or where fire engines need to park? I have never heard of a town saying what kind of plants someone can grow, but I will say in my life I have lived in sub-divisions that do dictate that kind of stuff, it's the HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION! that gestapo group that tells you what you can do Flying the southern flag is detrimental to american blacks, if one's heritage is southern and they want to fly the flag of a loser, I guess I don't mind but it does represent hate and racism to blacks especially..

It is true one should live in a place that has taxes that support their needs and wants.

You and I have had this talk before. This is why I am much more in favor of state's rights so there will be a place for all types of people to live. I do not want the local government telling me where I can park my car, or what plants I have to plant in front of my house, or what color to paint for pete's sake. So if I want less government involvement I want a place to go that supports that. Likewise for those that appreciate and are willing to pay for more programs and services.

 

[redwood66]

Do you mean that say transgender people won't be able to live in a place in the USA because a state will ban them?

Parking your car Red? how many rules are there about where to park your car.. most rules I can think of are places where people who have health problems park or where fire engines need to park? I have never heard of a town saying what kind of plants someone can grow, but I will say in my life I have lived in sub-divisions that do dictate that kind of stuff, it's the HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION! that gestapo group that tells you what you can do Flying the southern flag is detrimental to american blacks, if one's heritage is southern and they want to fly the flag of a loser, I guess I don't mind but it does represent hate and racism to blacks especially..

It is true one should live in a place that has taxes that support their needs and wants.

I would think you know me well enough by now to know that is not what I am talking about or would want. I would expect that from some others but not you. Perhaps the word "types" is what has you hung up. Those discrimination issues are not what I am addressing. CA is a high tax, high reg state in which my whole family has lived since the 30's but it is no longer a place I would call home. I don't give a damn about someone being transgender or any other thing that is their personal business or choice. Cities absolutely do impose restrictions like I posted above. That would not be a place I choose to live.

 

[monarch64]

Some cities dictate whether you have to have only grass and ornamental shrubs, flowers, etc. in your front yard (visible to neighbors and passers-by) and it's an issue because many people would rather grow edibles in that space to make better use of it.

Tekate, just want to let you know that the southern flag aka Confederate flag does not represent hate--I saw it on a tailgate just last week--"Heritage Not Hate." (This coming from people who live 2hours north of Kentucky--not even smart enough to know they're not Southerners at all, but Yankees. Now tell me about that "heritage" again, Mr. Redneck, Sir?)

 

[Tekate]

I apologize, I sometimes often times always, write the way I speak, terribly rude and I came across much harder than I am. What it sounded (read) like to me was people can live in states of like minded people, which would include people who dislike LGBT, not that I thought you wanted to live there.

Let me frame this: When you say cities do impose restrictions, do you mean like parking anywhere? I ask because I've never seen a rule about parking in any city I lived in that didn't have a reason.

Peace Love and a hug to you Red I am an old hippy chick.
Also I am sad about Chris Cornell pulling the plug on his short life.

Kate

I would think you know me well enough by now to know that is not what I am talking about or would want. I would expect that from some others but not you. Perhaps the word "types" is what has you hung up. Those discrimination issues are not what I am addressing. CA is a high tax, high reg state in which my whole family has lived since the 30's but it is no longer a place I would call home. I don't give a damn about someone being transgender or any other thing that is their personal business or choice. Cities absolutely do impose restrictions like I posted above. That would not be a place I choose to live.

 

[redwood66]

LOL. I know and peace love a hug to you too. Think of all the ridiculous rules an HOA could have and then make that city rules. If I have an RV I do not want the city to tell me that I cannot park it in my driveway. Or than my garage door could not be up more than 30 mins. I cannot imagine living like that.

 

[Calliecake]

I know our home owners association has a million rules but I have never heard of whole city having them with the exception that you have to maintain (mow) your lawn. I moved to a neighborhood that has strict restrictions on purpose.

I'm with you Kate on Chris Cornell. Very Sad

 

[Tekate]

I totally hear you been there.

(((RED)))

LOL. I know and peace love a hug to you too. Think of all the ridiculous rules an HOA could have and then make that city rules. If I have an RV I do not want the city to tell me that I cannot park it in my driveway. Or than my garage door could not be up more than 30 mins. I cannot imagine living like that.

 

[iLander]

"people living in these areas that feel the fear of real change."

Exactly.