arrest made in Jon Benet Ramsey case!!!

[fire&ice]

Date: 8/17/2006 1:55:24 PM
Author: Kaleigh
Does anyone know how long it takes to compare the suspects DNA with the unmatched DNA?? A week, or does it take longer??

Good question - one would think sooner rather than later.

Didn''t they say that the DNA evidence may have been compromised over the years? Obviously, it''s a slam dunk if it matches.

 

[fire&ice]

Date: 8/17/2006 3:52:33 PM
Author: CaptAubrey
Once you have the samples, it''s something that can be done in a few hours, if necessary. They ID''d Saddam the same way within a day after he got caught.

ETA: The thing is, though, if they do the test and announce the results in the press now, that''s tantamount to convicting him before they''ve even started. You got to wonder if they really want to do that, since it will be months (probably next year) before the case comes to trial.

You would think they would answer that question, especially since they guy CONFESSED to the crime. And, would quell all the speculation of innocence running around (like in my SPYGIRL! mind

).

I know when they arrested the serial killer in my neighborhood - that was the first thing they released as it was or is one of the first cases to use DNA. They may have done it to ease the community. Don''t know.

I read the article in our paper. It came across that they thought he was the one. Scary - since he was starting to teach 2nd graders in Bankok.

 

[Kaleigh]

One legal expert said on CNN today that he thinks this guy is more of a serial confessor . That he was obsessed with the case, etc.. I tend to agree. Yeah this guy is a creep, but is he the murderer?? And they keep talking about the DNA and such but no one ever addressed when that test would be made. You'd think ASAP. But who knows....

 

[jcrow]

i didn''t read this whole thread so sorry if this was brought up already:

i just read some of this on msn. he said that he drugged her before her death, but in the girl''s autopsy, no drugs were found?

 

[CaptAubrey]

If this does turn out to be a false confession (been doing some more reading on it), every journalist and cop involved in this case should resign and spend the rest of their lives working for the poor.

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 8/17/2006 4:33:04 PM
Author: CaptAubrey
If this does turn out to be a false confession (been doing some more reading on it), every journalist and cop involved in this case should resign and spend the rest of their lives working for the poor.

Well if it is a false confession one good thing will be that this creep will never get to be around kids again. No teaching positions etc....

 

[diamondfan]

He has a criminal past and is a known pedophile. Apparently the police knew of him for a long time. His wife divorced him a few years back, he had been arrested for some indeceny to a child and had possession of child ****. He is a sick creep. He looks freaky on the news, poor wife and sons to have this guy in their life. Hopefully he has not killed any other children.

 

[MINE!!]

OK.. I realize this is not the popular vote here... But a cofession means nothing in this case.. methinks.

I hope that he is the one, but I still do not think he did it. I am one of those people that think the father had something to do with it and the mother knew it. So until I am proven wrong.. I have no pity for that woman or her husband. Besides, sexualizing her 5 year old was weird enough. Sorry, I just have my doubts.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

You know, there is zero evidence to connect the parents to this crime. And to me, it is unthinkable to not have sympathy for them when they have endured the greatest kind of pain imaginable. It may not be a great choice to put your child in a beauty pageant, but it''s not a crime, and it doesn''t necessarily mean you''re a bad person.

 

[MINE!!]

Nor does the fact that they refused to coop. with the police and otgher discrepencies make it easy to beleive that they did not have something to do with it.

So.. I don''t have a lick of sympathy for them. IF they find out for sure that the killer was no connected to the parents and the parents were in no way responsible, then I will eat my words, but until then..... my heart is not breaking for them, my heart breaks for the child that had her childhood and innocence stolen from.

 

[phoenixgirl]

The forums at Court TV and blogs such as Steve Huff's Crime Blog are saying it's probably a hoax. I tend to agree, although have you seen how much he resembles the sketch the psychic gave? Creepy!

There are just too many things that don't fit. He doesn't seem to have any connection to Boulder or any record of having been there, and his ex-wife who has no reason to lie for him says he was in Alabama at the time of the murder.

He was also fascinated with Polly Klaas, and we know he didn't kill her. So then he somehow manages to fly to Colorado, commit an untraceable crime, then becomes obsessed with a killing he committed and writes to the parents and a professor who does documentaries on it (all the while incriminating himself), without any evidence that he has committed a similar crime in the past ten years? It just doesn't add up.

Also, the details of the confession are wrong, and he should know better, having been obsessed with the case.

What is really, really creepy are the details of his resume -- globe-hopping, always in a totally new country after one year, always taking care of small children, whom he bathed, etc. Icky, icky. Something is obviously wrong with this guy, but I think that's what caused him to make a false confession. He became so obsessed with the case that he wanted to be involved with it himself, probably came to believe he was.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

But I had the impression from something I read that the Ramseys had given this guy''s name to the police before he was suspected by that professor. Did anyone else see that?

 

[Ellen]

Date: 8/17/2006 8:56:36 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
But I had the impression from something I read that the Ramseys had given this guy's name to the police before he was suspected by that professor. Did anyone else see that?

That kind of rings a bell ds,

Also, last night I heard someone on one of the TV stations saying that someone who had been questioned initially had said they didn't see anything, but when questioned by the new DA, had a change of heart, or whatever, and apparently did see something. But I've not heard that again.

 

[Kaleigh]

The thing about this guy is he has made statements that don''t add up. I know jcrow brought this up earlier but need to say it again. John Karr said he drugged Jon Benet when in fact there were no drugs or alcohol found in her system during her autopsy. Dr Badden (famous for many cases, mostly the OJ trial ) said to wait for the DNA to come back. He was in Philly for a forensic mentoring symposium and was interviewed by our local TV station. He has his doubts as well. I believe this guy wants to be known as the killer of Jon Benet. He is a known pedophile, guitly of child pornography and needs to be locked up. Either in prison or a Mental Hospital. I do feel so very sorry for John, and for Burke. Jon Benet would be 16, if she hadn''t been murdered. Same age as my son.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Well, I just saw something on TV that said the Ramsey''s had never heard of this guy before he became a suspect. So forget what I said before. As Kaleigh said, the guy is sick and needs to be locked up and away from kids regardless of whether he did this crime or not. I only wish it could be solved so the father and brother of JonBenet could have some closure.

 

[MINE!!]

The problem with a lot of this ''evidence'' is the "He said, she said, we said, I said, you said" stuff.. along with the "my brother''s cousin''s sisters uncle mother twice removed neighbors aunt''s grandmother''s stuff"

 

[Mara]

ds i also saw that in an article, that the Ramseys had given the police this guy''s name at some point, not sure if it was 10 years ago or recently or what.

also supposedly in the articles yesterday they said that there are many elements of the murder that the public does not know...so they are looking for those kind of things the killer to know that no one else would kinda thing.

 

[flower12]

Date: 8/17/2006 7:51:22 AM
Author: MINE!!
Hmmmmm... I hope he is the guy... but hmmmm.... I don;t know...

Let say this is the scenerio.

Pshyco man gets cuaght doing something bad in Bangkok... Psyhco man does not want to be in Bangkok where the prisons are really prisons. Physco man decides he is going to say that he killed JB and then he knows he will be extradited back to US. .....

Hmmmmm

I hope it was him.. but I think it is Fishy...

I hope he is the guy too. but I also thought same thing with you.


I used to go to Thai Land for vacation and vsit my one of family member
I saw lot of men from all over the world (for buy women and childlen ) it's really sick.
some men wearing shirts which has company logo

and wearing wedding band

 

[fire&ice]

Date: 8/17/2006 4:33:04 PM
Author: CaptAubrey
If this does turn out to be a false confession (been doing some more reading on it), every journalist and cop involved in this case should resign and spend the rest of their lives working for the poor.

One "pundint" said that they rushed the "arrest" before completion of the investigation because they felt he knew something. They arrested him because he was such a high flight risk. Supposedly they have been wanting to talk to him for a while; and, was able to pin him down because of his starting of the International school 2nd grade teaching position.

This makes more sense to me. He''s a master at covering his internet tracks. He may have been in touch with other pediphiles. One that may be bragging about the crime, including but not limited to the parents of Jonbennet.

I really wonder how this will play out. But, it''s not the first time law enforcement or the media didn''t jump the gun. I know an official arrest was never made - but think about that poor Richard Jewel. He was tried and convicted by several un-named FBI sources & the media.

 

[Girlrocks]

I hope this is the right guy. As the mother of two 6 year old girls, it makes me sick to hear him talk about being in love with her and how beautiful she was. And he was an elementary school teacher...was he a teacher at her school?? He sounds like he was obsessed with her. Sick guy. We need to protect our children at any costs. Research shows child molesters RARELY can be rehabilitated. I don''t care if he does have kids of his own...related to the previous thread on the death penalty...this is one guy that I would volunteer to throw the switch myself!

 

[february2003bride]

I hope this is the guy for the family''s sake but something with his story doesn''t add up. He said he picked her up from school (and would she have gone willingly with a stranger?) to kidnap her but she was on Christmas break and was killed in the middle of the night after the family''s Christmas party. School was out until after the New Year. And he said he drugged her but I remember the news saying that no drugs were found in her system.

The guy himself just seems eerie, something with his eyes freak me out. But his story doesn''t make sense...

 

[CaptAubrey]

I don''t often find myself agreeing with Bill O''Reilly, but he''s dead right this time:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209229,00.html

 

[jcrow]

Date: 8/18/2006 11:56:49 AM
Author: february2003bride
I hope this is the guy for the family''s sake but something with his story doesn''t add up. He said he picked her up from school (and would she have gone willingly with a stranger?) to kidnap her but she was on Christmas break and was killed in the middle of the night after the family''s Christmas party. School was out until after the New Year. And he said he drugged her but I remember the news saying that no drugs were found in her system.

The guy himself just seems eerie, something with his eyes freak me out. But his story doesn''t make sense...

that''s what i was saying- it just doesn''t add up. not that he''s innocent, just that the story is fishy!

 

[CaptAubrey]

The latest incarnation of Google news, as of about noon PDT

Lebanon cease-fire: 864 hits
Judge blocks NSA eavesdropping program: 1154 hits
Raul Castro makes first public appearance since Fidel''s surgery: 424 hits
CIA contractor guilty in Afghan beating: 631 hits
JonBenet case: 4518 hits

Something is just slightly wrong here.

 

[movie zombie]

can''t agree with you more, Captain.....

movie zombie

 

[fire&ice]

Date: 8/18/2006 2:59:54 PM
Author: CaptAubrey
The latest incarnation of Google news, as of about noon PDT

Lebanon cease-fire: 864 hits
Judge blocks NSA eavesdropping program: 1154 hits
Raul Castro makes first public appearance since Fidel''s surgery: 424 hits
CIA contractor guilty in Afghan beating: 631 hits
JonBenet case: 4518 hits

Something is just slightly wrong here.

And, Captn - how many of those hits did you participate in?

Certainly not surprising. More people can name the 7 drawfs than the supreme court. More people know popular culture than world leaders.

 

[CaptAubrey]

Date: 8/18/2006 4:18:00 PM
Author: fire&ice
And, Captn - how many of those hits did you participate in?

Hits = articles the search engine found on the subject, in this case.

But my news reading is eclectic.

 

[fire&ice]

Date: 8/18/2006 4:38:48 PM
Author: CaptAubrey

Date: 8/18/2006 4:18:00 PM
Author: fire&ice
And, Captn - how many of those hits did you participate in?

Hits = articles the search engine found on the subject, in this case.

But my news reading is eclectic.

I plead computer ignorance!

 

[msdarlinjoy]

So did anyone watch him on national tv today as he went before the judge?

The guy is definately wacked-out of his gourd.

Whether he did it ... or ... not, simply a wacko in my personal opinion!

My dad taped it, and I kept rewinding it ... and watching his eyes {{{Creepo}}} and then listening to him afterwards ... he kept asking about his clothing. It seems like he is more woried about wearing the orange PJ''s than anything else at that point.

I guess we will have to wait and see when the State of Colorado is going to pick him up for extradition.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

"Wacked out of his gourd" sounds like a good description. He''s so far out that I am doubtful he had anything to do with the Ramsey crime, but it''ll be good for children everywhere to get this guy off the streets.