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no they arent they have been jumping in price.Date: 3/20/2008 2:00:12 AM
Author: DiamondExpert
Those prices cited on the site by strm are misleading and off by about 300-500%...even though it says they change daily on metal spot prices, the basis pricing is set for $400 gold and $850 platinum...hardly realistic.
The range is quite a bit higher than this. For starters, different manufacturers charge different prices for their heads. To some extent it’s just a matter of how much metal they are using but there are also different techniques of manufacturing and some are more costly to do than others. Secondly, most jewelers are charging a markup on the materials they sell, just like every other store. The services of the people who help you choose the right parts for your particular job, ship them in, return them if they are wrong or defective, warranty them etc. are not ‘free’ even if they aren’t separately billed.Date: 3/19/2008 5:13:36 PM
Author: strmrdr
plat heads:
http://www.gsgold.com/cart/idxplatinum.asp
yg heads:
http://www.gsgold.com/cart/idx18k.asp
wg heads:
http://www.gsgold.com/cart/idxwhite18k.asp
+ labor which could be anywhere from $40 to $100 or so.
the heads are comparable in weight too the equivalent stuller and a bit less money and have been for a long time.Date: 3/20/2008 10:52:07 AM
Author: DiamondExpert
Strm - I've gone back this morning and looked again, and those prices are still very low - by about 2x - it's hard to determine the dwt. for comparison, but these findings are probably lighter weight than I'm used to using.
In some ways I agree and others I dont.Date: 3/20/2008 9:22:48 AM
Author: denverappraiser
The range is quite a bit higher than this. For starters, different manufacturers charge different prices for their heads. To some extent it’s just a matter of how much metal they are using but there are also different techniques of manufacturing and some are more costly to do than others. Secondly, most jewelers are charging a markup on the materials they sell, just like every other store. The services of the people who help you choose the right parts for your particular job, ship them in, return them if they are wrong or defective, warranty them etc. are not ‘free’ even if they aren’t separately billed.
Assembly costs vary tremendously depending on the details. Some jobs are pretty easy and some are an enormous pain. A few are impossible, or at least ill advised. Again, the people doing the work expect to be paid and the expert assistance to know which sorts of modifications and which sorts of pieces will work properly for YOUR job are not usually separately billed but they too deserve to be paid. I know shops that will not begin to install even the easiest platinum head for less than $50 and this can get into the hundreds if modifications are required to accommodate the change in size or shape. This isn’t counting setting fees which can go anywhere from a few dollars per stone to something on the order of $250/ct. with a several hundred dollar minimum. It just depends on the shop and the job. The cheapest are rarely the best and visa versa. By all means ask them to defend their pricing structures and if they can’t justify why their skills are worth more than their competition then take a hike. I usually advise diamond and high end colored stone customers to shop labor based on quality first and price second rather than the reverse. Setting on a $20 amethyst isn''t going to be held to the same standard as a 4 carat diamond and you may want to choose a different craftsman (or woman) for the job. There’s a lot of jewelers out there and very few of them can and will meet the Pricescope quality standards.
Neil Beaty
GG(GIA) ICGA(AGS) NAJA
Professional Appraisals in Denver
I''d rate the quality as being higher than the stuller average on the ones I have seen.Date: 3/20/2008 1:27:38 PM
Author: DiamondExpert
Strm - OK - that''s what I read on the site...few catalogues are up to date with listed prices...not to wonder with the wild swings in metal prices.
Another factor, less easily evaluated, is that some mfgrs. do not consistently produce defect free items, and poor quality control will quickly turn away customers...nothing worse than having a pitted/poorly cast piece which will drop a prong due to metal weakness! I don''t know how these folks rate, but cheaper isn''t always better.